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I was talking about your claimed partisan economy that has operated completely free of democrat intervention or participation for all this time.

And of course the alternate parallel economy that all of the democrats have been existing in while avoiding the evil other one.

The correct term is bizzaro, but I supposed we could coin a new phrase and name it after you professor.
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and a soaring deficit.



That a Dem promptly tripled.



I think you'll find that the state of the deficit was pretty much determined before the change of administration. How much did Bush pay to bail out AIG and the banks?
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I was talking about your claimed partisan economy that has operated completely free of democrat intervention or participation for all this time.

The correct term is bizzaro, but I supposed we could coin a new phrase and name it after you professor.



Sorry, but G.H.W. Bush outranks you in the economic naming stakes.:P It's "Voodoo", and its a creation of the Republican party.
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Wriggle if you must, but you simply can't find a single post where I've complained about the taxes I currently pay.



You were bent out of shape with user fee's and the propsed tax increase on fuel. I was against both myself.



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I don't deny objecting to paying proposed user fees to bail out YOUR industry.




No, you just support raising landing fee's and everything else on us to replace a syatem that would also benefit you.
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User fees to subsidize airlines like yours that can't manage their own affairs are another issue entirely.:P


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sounds to me like another form of welfare, but i guess that welfare is only good when the left wants to distribute it. It is ok for Obama to redistribute wealth but nobody else? welfare is welfare no matter how it is given. so since you agree with wealth redistribution this should be ok for you.

Maybe the poor should learn to manage their own affairs also?

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How ironic, I feel the same way: high taxes for the rich - life's not fair. Cool, we found something we have in common. B|

And so teh children born into that mess; let them live with it. I withdraw my assertion that the right is incomnpassionate.



So let's punish the people that made good decisions by taxing the hell out of them and reward those that made poor choices by giving them the money? Wonderful motivation for success.

Listen up kids, when you grow up, if you work hard the government can take half of everything you own too!:S



There seems to be such a small amount of class mobility that you mean to say let's punish the people who's parents and great parents made good decisions. Also, the only people getting a tax incease thru this are the ones who are very rich or who get their compensation redirected thru a phat insurance policy.

I'd love to see the cost incr to you pesonally, as in how it works. Just like teh Iraq/Afghanistan War, how has it cost you a dime?

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Maybe because Bush didn't triple the deficit in his first 6 months.



If whatever deficit increase occurred under Obama, I haven't seen the numbers, is his fault, then 21% interest rates were Reagan's fault, right? GWB inherited a very descent economy. GWB has some bad events occur under his terms, but he handled them about as badly as anyone could and Obama received them, so let's be realitic when we blame Obama too much. Furthermore, let's give him 2 years minimum.

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As opposed to the old Dem double standard, perhaps?



WHat is the double standard? What are the Dems pushing that they don't have apply to themselves?

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Wriggle if you must, but you simply can't find a single post where I've complained about the taxes I currently pay.



You were bent out of shape with user fee's and the propsed tax increase on fuel. I was against both myself.



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I don't deny objecting to paying proposed user fees to bail out YOUR industry.




No, you just support raising landing fee's and everything else on us to replace a syatem that would also benefit you.



I challenge you to find a post in the archives where I wrote any such thing, or where I objected to the EXISTING taxes.

Discussion of why any taxpayers should subsidize commercial airlines is for another thread, but I leave you with some quotes.

The worst sort of business is one that grows rapidly, requires significant capital to engender the growth, and then earns little or no money. Think airlines. Here a durable competitive advantage has proven elusive ever since the days of the Wright Brothers. Indeed, if a farsighted capitalist had been present at Kitty Hawk, he would have done his successors a huge favor by shooting Orville down.

— Warren Buffett, annual letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, February 2008.

People who invest in aviation are the biggest suckers in the world.

— David G. Neeleman, after raising a record $128 million to start New Air (the then working name for what became JetBlue Airways), 3 May 1999.



As of 1992, in fact—though the picture would have improved since then—the money that had been made since the dawn of aviation by all of this country's airline companies was zero. Absolutely zero.

— Warren Buffett.
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Discussion of why any taxpayers should subsidize commercial airlines is for another thread, but I leave you with some quotes.



I think you already said it earlier in this thread.

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Taxes and user fees are government revenue. As you have already pointed out, it is the governments revenue.

Tax payers are not subsidizing private industry, they are providing tax revenue to the government, and all connection between the taxpayer and the ultimate destination is moot.

Your opinion about how future revenue is spent is irrelevant. It is the government revenue, they should spend it as they see fit without regard to the opinions of the contributors.
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Discussion of why any taxpayers should subsidize commercial airlines is for another thread, but I leave you with some quotes.



I think you already said it earlier in this thread.

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Yes - which is why I suggested a different thread.

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Taxes and user fees are government revenue. As you have already pointed out, it is the governments revenue.



Indeed it is.

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Tax payers are not subsidizing private industry, they are providing tax revenue to the government, and all connection between the taxpayer and the ultimate destination is moot.



No. How the government spends its revenue is very much the concern of citizens. But each individual's interest is equal; and independent of how much tax they did or didn't pay. A homeless indigent has as much right to influence the government as a billionaire.





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Your opinion about how future revenue is spent is irrelevant. It is the government revenue, they should spend it as they see fit without regard to the opinions of the contributors.



No, you have a very poor grasp of civics. About as poor as your grasp of ZERO.
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Maybe you should google Obama's stimulus package...almost $800 billion of nonsense. It legislated MORE deficit spending on top of the $800 billion.

BTW...I didn't get a Bush stimulus check and I think Bush sucked also. I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?

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and a soaring deficit.

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That a Dem promptly tripled.

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I think you'll find that the state of the deficit was pretty much determined before the change of administration. How much did Bush pay to bail out AIG and the banks?

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Ridiculous post...I was the first person in my family to attend college. I make 5 times what my father made. I have been to other class societies....you don't have a clue about how great this country is and the opportunities that drive so many others to come here or strive to.

Anyone from Haiti stopping at Cuba on their way to America? Anyone from Guatemala happy to just stop and stay in Mexico? No is the answer since you probably don't know that.

Stop sitting on your butt doing nothing and whining about others working their asses off and making money.

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There seems to be such a small amount of class mobility that you mean to say let's punish the people who's parents and great parents made good decisions. Also, the only people getting a tax incease thru this are the ones who are very rich or who get their compensation redirected thru a phat insurance policy.

I'd love to see the cost incr to you pesonally, as in how it works. Just like teh Iraq/Afghanistan War, how has it cost you a dime?

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Ridiculous post...I was the first person in my family to attend college. I make 5 times what my father made. I have been to other class societies....you don't have a clue about how great this country is and the opportunities that drive so many others to come here or strive to.

Anyone from Haiti stopping at Cuba on their way to America? Anyone from Guatemala happy to just stop and stay in Mexico? No is the answer since you probably don't know that.

Stop sitting on your butt doing nothing and whining about others working their asses off and making money.

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There seems to be such a small amount of class mobility that you mean to say let's punish the people who's parents and great parents made good decisions. Also, the only people getting a tax incease thru this are the ones who are very rich or who get their compensation redirected thru a phat insurance policy.

I'd love to see the cost incr to you pesonally, as in how it works. Just like teh Iraq/Afghanistan War, how has it cost you a dime?



So you use Haiti, Cuba and Mexico as comparisons......nuff said.

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BTW...I didn't get a Bush stimulus check and I think Bush sucked also. I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?



I'm starting to rethink that the 2000 and maybeteh 2004 election really were fixed....never can find any Bush voters; comne on out of the Bush closet - it's ok.

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Ahhhh...that reading comprehension thing strikes you again. Find any post where I said I didn't vote for Bush? Just as I held my nose with McCain and pulled the lever I did so with Bush. Doesn't mean I thought he was good...in fact it was the difference between bad and worse. As bad as Bush was Kerry would have been worse; as Obama is.

You really need to learn to understand what you read and stop suggesting things I never said. You have done it to me and at least two others who have called you out on the same issue this week. Get a job and maybe you won't spend all your time here writing nonsense....making up other people's arguments for them.

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BTW...I didn't get a Bush stimulus check and I think Bush sucked also. I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?

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I'm starting to rethink that the 2000 and maybeteh 2004 election really were fixed....never can find any Bush voters; comne on out of the Bush closet - it's ok.

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Ahhhh...that reading comprehension thing strikes you again. Find any post where I said I didn't vote for Bush? Just as I held my nose with McCain and pulled the lever I did so with Bush.



Well you did write:

I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?


So you are not a Republican but you constantly vote for Republicans; you make a lot of sense.

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You really need to learn to understand what you read and stop suggesting things I never said.



You need to find where I said you didn't vote for Bush, I was just inferring that there are lots of Bush voters out there, yet none seem to admit it very often, hence the election must be fixed due to the lack of available admitted Bush voters. Too complex for you to understand?

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Get a job and maybe you won't spend all your time here writing nonsense....making up other people's arguments for them.



I have a job and someone has to write your arguments; you can't.

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Well you did write:
I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?


So you are not a Republican but you constantly vote for Republicans; you make a lot of sense.and you say you support the US yet you support policy and policy makers writing bad law that does just the oposite[:/]



You need to find where I said you didn't vote for Bush, I was just inferring that there are lots of Bush voters out there, yet none seem to admit it very often, hence the election must be fixed due to the lack of available admitted Bush voters. Too complex for you to understand? Nice PA:)


I have a job and someone has to write your arguments; you can't.


Yet another pa? Two in the same post Nice:D

You really do need a job. You will feel better about things and yourself (instead of waiting for yet another handout) and have less time to bitch about things on this site:)
Buy the way, I modeled this post following your style for impact.......
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Well you did write:
I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?


So you are not a Republican but you constantly vote for Republicans; you make a lot of sense.and you say you support the US yet you support policy and policy makers writing bad law that does just the oposite[:/]



You need to find where I said you didn't vote for Bush, I was just inferring that there are lots of Bush voters out there, yet none seem to admit it very often, hence the election must be fixed due to the lack of available admitted Bush voters. Too complex for you to understand? Nice PA:)


I have a job and someone has to write your arguments; you can't.


Yet another pa? Two in the same post Nice:D

You really do need a job. You will feel better about things and yourself (instead of waiting for yet another handout) and have less time to bitch about things on this site:)
Buy the way, I modeled this post following your style for impact.......

Rush, go back and post what I wrote and then reply to it. This is unitelligible.

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Well you did write:
I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?


So you are not a Republican but you constantly vote for Republicans; you make a lot of sense.and you say you support the US yet you support policy and policy makers writing bad law that does just the oposite[:/]



You need to find where I said you didn't vote for Bush, I was just inferring that there are lots of Bush voters out there, yet none seem to admit it very often, hence the election must be fixed due to the lack of available admitted Bush voters. Too complex for you to understand? Nice PA:)


I have a job and someone has to write your arguments; you can't.


Yet another pa? Two in the same post Nice:D

You really do need a job. You will feel better about things and yourself (instead of waiting for yet another handout) and have less time to bitch about things on this site:)
Buy the way, I modeled this post following your style for impact.......


Rush, go back and post what I wrote and then reply to it. This is unitelligible.

No, you understood it, you just dont have a reply....
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Well you did write:
I am not a Republican...got anything left to say original now?


So you are not a Republican but you constantly vote for Republicans; you make a lot of sense.and you say you support the US yet you support policy and policy makers writing bad law that does just the oposite[:/]



You need to find where I said you didn't vote for Bush, I was just inferring that there are lots of Bush voters out there, yet none seem to admit it very often, hence the election must be fixed due to the lack of available admitted Bush voters. Too complex for you to understand? Nice PA:)


I have a job and someone has to write your arguments; you can't.


Yet another pa? Two in the same post Nice:D

You really do need a job. You will feel better about things and yourself (instead of waiting for yet another handout) and have less time to bitch about things on this site:)
Buy the way, I modeled this post following your style for impact.......


Rush, go back and post what I wrote and then reply to it. This is unitelligible.


No, you understood it, you just dont have a reply....

No, I realy don't, just insert my quote in the form of a reply so I know what you were commenting to. Honestly, I want to respond. I just don't understand why people reply and not place the textthey are responding to in there.

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