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This should get you a nice long ban.
Attacking others family members should never be allowed.
Again, fishing for "attacks" - a bit of yawn.
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Darius11 12
I respect that a lot, and kind of grew up the same way. First job was at 12.
But for me i think Environment was a huge contributor. I don;t think i could do what i did if i was born in Somalia, or if i did not come to the US as a child. I worked after school and the money i made was more then enough for what a 12 yearold wants. I even helped out the fam.
Edit: Left what i said up there just so peopel know what the heck i am talking about.
You know I take what I said up their back. I think your right. Because even in Iran I was the only kid I knew who worked. Many others didn’t therefore they did not enjoy the things I could do for my self and afford the freedom your own money brings. I did not need to work in Iran like i did in the US.
So I think your right. Even if I was in Somalia I might not have the life I do here, but I would still be trying for a better life.
But for me i think Environment was a huge contributor. I don;t think i could do what i did if i was born in Somalia, or if i did not come to the US as a child. I worked after school and the money i made was more then enough for what a 12 yearold wants. I even helped out the fam.
Edit: Left what i said up there just so peopel know what the heck i am talking about.
You know I take what I said up their back. I think your right. Because even in Iran I was the only kid I knew who worked. Many others didn’t therefore they did not enjoy the things I could do for my self and afford the freedom your own money brings. I did not need to work in Iran like i did in the US.
So I think your right. Even if I was in Somalia I might not have the life I do here, but I would still be trying for a better life.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
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QuoteQuoteAnd say hi to your mom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YIq5Q15L1o
This should get you a nice long ban.
Attacking others family members should never be allowed.
It was figurative to establish the paranoia that you share with that lady. I said nothing disparaging to you or your mom.
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QuoteQuoteQuote(namely, how successful were your parents)
Agrred, 100%, born classism. Class mobility used to be an option, not much anymore. That was the American dream, a lot of immigrants have been dissolusioned.
sorry, can't agree with you. I was born to a single teenage mom, thrown out of the house for the sin of having me. So she had to go the GED route before JC, college, and grad school. She was able to provide about half my costs to go to a public school; I worked to cover the rest. And then worked to get to where am I. Environment was a small contributor, but for us it was our innate intelligence + effort that allowed us to succeed.
Well, and your humility.
Statistically irrelevant. A sample size of 1 or 2 that isn't random is meaningless to the point.
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Statistically irrelevant. A sample size of 1 or 2 that isn't random is meaningless to the point.
Your diatribes are driven by your own experience, which has the same sample size.
Effort matters, more than just about anything else these days. This is especially true for those who are brave enough and dedicated enough to succeed in their own business.
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QuoteYour diatribes are driven by your own experience, which has the same sample size.
My assertions are generally backed with evidence that is external, independant and objective. You've been unable to even try to refute any of them. Furthermore, trying to defeat me to make your sample size of 2 non-random a statistically, relevant piece of data is ridiculous. With me, absent me, puny sample sized non-random examples are not statistical.
Effort matters, more than just about anything else these days. This is especially true for those who are brave enough and dedicated enough to succeed in their own business. ***
Congratulation then, my hat is off and covering my heart, I am simultaneously waving a flag with my other hand. Now, back to the regularly scheduled argument.
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billvon 2,991
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>The cold reality of nature is that the weak would die.
Well, everyone dies. The issue is - do you die before you reproduce?
>Which traits get passed on more?
The two primary ones are the ability to live to age 18 and the ability to have children. A lot plays into that. For example, a lack of intelligence severe enough to prevent someone from understanding birth control encourages the second trait.
Well, everyone dies. The issue is - do you die before you reproduce?
>Which traits get passed on more?
The two primary ones are the ability to live to age 18 and the ability to have children. A lot plays into that. For example, a lack of intelligence severe enough to prevent someone from understanding birth control encourages the second trait.
jgoose71 0
I've used the opening scene from "Idiocracy" in several posts before. This seems to be the perfect thread for it though. This is really where I see the future if things keep going the way they are.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2682654/idiocracy_opening_sequence/
Either natural selection or start modifying the gene pool. Stupid should still hurt.
"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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riddler 0
QuoteWe have made ourselves physically weaker and less disease resistant than our ancestors, but intellectually we are further ahead.
And it turns out, that's all that matters. As long as smart people live long enough to breed, the human race will continue to be the dominant life form on this planet (excluding exo-planetary intelligence
). All the pondering about sabre-tooth tigers, who's strongest, fastest, et al, are irrelevant as long as we have nuclear weapons.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
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QuoteSo with that, countries with greater Socialist programs are doing better, have a better standard of living, have better economies and aren't 12T in debt. This is not a conversation about dictatorships, it's about natural selection and you posed that too many entitlements lead to the destruction of a nation and I have illustrated that that clearly isn;t the case. The country with of the fewest entitlements is doing very poorly.
Which, of course, explains the massive exodus of people fleeing to Cuba on homemade rafts.
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I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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QuoteQuoteSo with that, countries with greater Socialist programs are doing better, have a better standard of living, have better economies and aren't 12T in debt. This is not a conversation about dictatorships, it's about natural selection and you posed that too many entitlements lead to the destruction of a nation and I have illustrated that that clearly isn;t the case. The country with of the fewest entitlements is doing very poorly.
Which, of course, explains the massive exodus of people fleeing to Cuba on homemade rafts.
There ya go, did you forget Africa? Instead of the rhetoric, explain how Communist China is doing FAAAAAAAAAAAR better than Capitalist US. How are most W European nations doing better than the US? Or just keep choosing the worst places on earth to make you feel better about the US.
QuoteInstead of the rhetoric, explain how Communist China is doing FAAAAAAAAAAAR better than Capitalist US. .
Explain to us how over 1B Chinese are doing better first.
(no, not the wealthiest 10% there - I know they're doing fine)
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QuoteQuoteInstead of the rhetoric, explain how Communist China is doing FAAAAAAAAAAAR better than Capitalist US. .
Explain to us how over 1B Chinese are doing better first.
(no, not the wealthiest 10% there - I know they're doing fine)
Oh, so Communist China and fascist US have a lot in common, huh?
I will give you that, most Chinese people live in poverty, but at least their country is strong and they have HC. Many in the US live with a low standard and our country is a wreck on the global market, that is the diff.
QuoteQuoteQuoteInstead of the rhetoric, explain how Communist China is doing FAAAAAAAAAAAR better than Capitalist US. .
Explain to us how over 1B Chinese are doing better first.
(no, not the wealthiest 10% there - I know they're doing fine)
Oh, so Communist China and fascist US have a lot in common, huh?
I will give you that, most Chinese people live in poverty, but at least their country is strong and they have HC. Many in the US live with a low standard and our country is a wreck on the global market, that is the diff.
Quite the fantasy you have there. Perhaps you should move to inland China.
wmw999 2,446
Holy cow -- that's some serious cherry-picking. Sorry, but while there are many, many Chinese who are happy to live where they are, we have more freedoms, a higher standard of living as a whole, and most of us have better health care than the Chinese.
Because while it's provided, the number of people is such that what we consider to be a good standard of health care isn't available there. They do focus more on preventive than curative care. And if they go to a specialist, coverage only provides about 30% (according to wikipedia).
The US is not perfect. I don't think that saying that makes me less American or anything. But overall what Americans have available to them is superior to what the Chinese have available to them. Our protections and services are generally superior. As is our government's respect for our individual rights.
Wendy P.
Because while it's provided, the number of people is such that what we consider to be a good standard of health care isn't available there. They do focus more on preventive than curative care. And if they go to a specialist, coverage only provides about 30% (according to wikipedia).
The US is not perfect. I don't think that saying that makes me less American or anything. But overall what Americans have available to them is superior to what the Chinese have available to them. Our protections and services are generally superior. As is our government's respect for our individual rights.
Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteInstead of the rhetoric, explain how Communist China is doing FAAAAAAAAAAAR better than Capitalist US. .
Explain to us how over 1B Chinese are doing better first.
(no, not the wealthiest 10% there - I know they're doing fine)
Oh, so Communist China and fascist US have a lot in common, huh?
I will give you that, most Chinese people live in poverty, but at least their country is strong and they have HC. Many in the US live with a low standard and our country is a wreck on the global market, that is the diff.
Quite the fantasy you have there. Perhaps you should move to inland China.
I made several points, which point are you running from this time?
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QuoteHoly cow -- that's some serious cherry-picking. Sorry, but while there are many, many Chinese who are happy to live where they are, we have more freedoms, a higher standard of living as a whole, and most of us have better health care than the Chinese.
It wasn't cherry-picking, it was a generalization. Follow the thread and you will see the point of comparing economies.
As for, "...most of us have better health care than the Chinese. " Perhaps thru your rose-colored glasses. Most Chinese have the same HC, Most Americans have such a diversity of HC from none at all to exquisite. To find an average, who knows. Don't think, for a second that I like Communist China's governemnt, it is oppressive, but the distribution of wealth is probably similar to that of ours. That was the original point.
QuoteThey do focus more on preventive than curative care. And if they go to a specialist, coverage only provides about 30% (according to wikipedia).
One more thing the US and China have in common.
QuoteThe US is not perfect. I don't think that saying that makes me less American or anything.
Of course not, only Nationalist Neo-cons would say that dissent is bad.
QuoteBut overall what Americans have available to them is superior to what the Chinese have available to them.
Probably, altho minute in some areas. The context of my assertion was that the US distribution of waelth is probably like the Chinese DOW in many respects with virtually all the money and asset up toip, special privilege,etc.
QuoteOur protections and services are generally superior. As is our government's respect for our individual rights.
W/o a doubt, I was never talking that piont.
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For the people who do believe in evolution and science. I hope that’s most of us. What is our effect on natural selection for our own species?
It is obvious that when it comes to our species we interfere with evolution.
What effects will this have?
Are we seeing these effects already?
Which traits get passed on more?
The cold reality of nature is that the weak would die. What is weak in the terms of our life today?
What will become of us?
Evolution favors those that most effectively pass on their genes to subsequent generations. Evolution doesn't care how or why or what OUR values are.
If, on account of our species traits of altruism and greed, that those you consider "weak" reproduce more effectively, then that's the way evolution will go. We haven't interfered with it, we just changed the parameters describing success.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
sorry, can't agree with you. I was born to a single teenage mom, thrown out of the house for the sin of having me. So she had to go the GED route before JC, college, and grad school. She was able to provide about half my costs to go to a public school; I worked to cover the rest. And then worked to get to where am I. Environment was a small contributor, but for us it was our innate intelligence + effort that allowed us to succeed.
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