Why do you not like/disagree/Hate Obama.

[Darius11 12]

I am serious.

I asked this in another thread and it did not get an answer. I feel like there has a been a huge event that I am not aware of. So I am asking the people who have problems with Obama to list the rights they have lost, or however Obama has wronged them or the country?


It seems all I get is bullshit so please do not post unless you have specific examples that he or his administration has done.

Like I said I am truly lost I feel like people are reacting to something that I am unaware of. So please inform me of what I do not know about Obama and his administration, and how he has effected your rights?


Thank you

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

I don't like his stance on guns.

Despite his commercials at the end of the campaign, he has voted against gun rights consistently as both a US Senator, and an Illinois state Senator. Both the pro-gun and anti-gun organizations touted this during the campaign.

With the political climate, and the judicial climate due to the Heller decision, I'm not too worried that anything will change dramatically, but he did state a desire to renew the "Assault Weapons" ban.
It hasn't made it out of committee, and probably won't, but it is still out there.

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[rushmc 23]

I do not know his so I cant hate or dislike him. I do not agree with his policy or how he is trying to shove them down the throats of the voters (with help from the Dems), the MAJORTY of voters today that do not agree with what he is trying to do.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kbordson 8]

It's not that I "like" or "don't like" him. I don't "hate" or "love" him.

I do NOT know him.


I don't trust him. But that's not because he's "President Obama" - rather because he's a politician and has shown that he will do what he had to to get elected. (I think the infomercial directly prior to the election was an underhanded attempt to spend money to get elected. It wasn't the "right thing to do".... and it didn't help me get to "know him" at all.) He has also made comments that has increased the divide between Republicans, not that the Republicans have been trying to play nice either.

I just don't really trust politicians.

[Darius11 12]

Thank you for the clear post I do not agree with him or really anyone on the left when it comes to guns either.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Darius11 12]

Which policy or pollicies in particular?

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Darius11 12]

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I just don't really trust politicians

Thats because your smart.

But I am being sincere in my own dickish way. I really don’t know what the outrage is all about.

I understand not liking politicians. I understand not liking him because he wants to do something you don’t agree with. However I remain confused at the outrage and anger that some show towards him. Specially when we have not had enough time for him to do anything let alone know what the effects of his doings will be.


Thats why i made this thread i feel like i am missing something or i have missed an event that every one is reacting to.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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I am serious.

I asked this in another thread and it did not get an answer. I feel like there has a been a huge event that I am not aware of. So I am asking the people who have problems with Obama to list the rights they have lost, or however Obama has wronged them or the country?


It seems all I get is bullshit so please do not post unless you have specific examples that he or his administration has done.

I don't agree with his ideals for the country.

1.Freedom of speech is for everyone. When I see the Obama administration try to silience those that dissagree (like fox and Humana) is see him denieing a basic right.

2.Entitlements are something that should be banned from federal government control. It is not Obama's or any other administration right to take from some to support others. this is something that should be done on a local basis like family or town. this way the costs would be lower because of the closer ties to the people and that would put a personal feel to the situation. Also those close to the situation would control the costs or the lazyness of the one receiving the aid.

3.I dont like the stimulus package (especially without any support of the oposing party). when ever the ideas of either party get put aside the country looses because balance is what keeps things in check and right now we have no balance and everyone knows how important is is to have balance.(except for polititions it seems)

4. I don't like Obamas radical afiliations. Millions of Americans have fought and died defending this country from those that had the ideals like those of Obama's friends. why the sacrifice of millions only to let them in anyway?

[rehmwa 2]

so far your 'righties' are clear in noting they don't know the guy and the issue is they disagree with his politics or actions so far

that's a far cry from the everyone personally hating GWB threads so rampant for so long

it's a reflection on how politics is personal for the left, but about policy for the right - if you do a little mental digging one can see this makes a lot a sense if you understand the philosophies....

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I don't like his stance on guns.

Despite his commercials at the end of the campaign, he has voted against gun rights consistently as both a US Senator, and an Illinois state Senator. Both the pro-gun and anti-gun organizations touted this during the campaign.

With the political climate, and the judicial climate due to the Heller decision, I'm not too worried that anything will change dramatically, but he did state a desire to renew the "Assault Weapons" ban.
It hasn't made it out of committee, and probably won't, but it is still out there.

And so did GHWB and GWB would have signed Clinton's ASWB if it came his way, so the only friends we have are the SCOTUS under Heller.

But voting against and procatively out to limit them, such as Clinton, are quite diff. Let's see what he does.

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I do not know his so I cant hate or dislike him. I do not agree with his policy or how he is trying to shove them down the throats of the voters (with help from the Dems), the MAJORTY of voters today that do not agree with what he is trying to do.

Welcome to politics. Your fav pres, GWB spent his entire first term shoving the Ovetime Bill down our faces and he won, what a guy. Then he fabricated and shoved a $1T to date war down our faces. So if you want your side to be aggressive with their agendas, yet the other side passive, you're not being realistic.

[FreeflyChile 0]

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I do not know his so I cant hate or dislike him. I do not agree with his policy or how he is trying to shove them down the throats of the voters (with help from the Dems), the MAJORTY of voters today that do not agree with what he is trying to do.

Do you feel that's any different from what presidents traditionally do or, that some recent presidents have done or attempted to do (not being sarcastic - i am honestly curious)?

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It's not that I "like" or "don't like" him. I don't "hate" or "love" him.

I do NOT know him.


I don't trust him. But that's not because he's "President Obama" - rather because he's a politician and has shown that he will do what he had to to get elected. (I think the infomercial directly prior to the election was an underhanded attempt to spend money to get elected. It wasn't the "right thing to do".... and it didn't help me get to "know him" at all.) He has also made comments that has increased the divide between Republicans, not that the Republicans have been trying to play nice either.

I just don't really trust politicians.

Is this you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XmerZEyHE

[wmw999 2,447]

I think it's in what your ears are hearing and what they naturally ignore.

I see a whole lot of what seems to me like rabid Obama-hate in SC, and by some of the people who post in this thread.

And if this same thread had started in the GWB years, some of the folks would have been just as articulate.

Then, of course, we'd always have the inarticulate fringe, but think of how nice it is to know there are people out there who don't express themselves as easily?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Darius11 12]

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1.Freedom of speech is for everyone. When I see the Obama administration try to silience those that dissagree (like fox and Humana) is see him denieing a basic right.

Did they try to silence them or refuse to participate with them?

If they did try to silence them then you are right that is a violation of our constitution. But if they decided not to participate then that’s there right and many other president have done the same.

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Entitlements are something that should be banned from federal government control.

any one in particular that Obama is responsible for?
did he or his administration create a new program?


I do agree with you to a point. I don’t want some lazy fuck who doesn’t want to work to get help from my taxes, but at the same time if a mother of 2 loses her husband suddenly I don’t want her to have to suck dick on the corner to raise her kids either. So that’s hard. I want people who really need the help and deserve the help to get it but the ass holes who take advantage of the system too not. I think we let the aholes getaway with it because most people who ask for help really do need it. Maybe I am wrong and the majority is assholes and the minority is the people who really need and deserve the help.

I don't know.

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3.I dont like the stimulus package

Yep I agree. But am I misunderstanding that the first one was done under the pe4rvios administration with no oversight, and the 2nd one was done right away as Obama came in too office and what he did do was add oversight?

Am I wrong on this?

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I don't like Obamas radical afiliations. Millions of Americans have fought and died defending this country from those that had the ideals like those of Obama's friends. why the sacrifice of millions only to let them in anyway?

Do you mean that he is a communist? or the Rev write thing? or all of them?

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[rickjump1 0]

I grew up hearing that, "a man is know by the company he keeps". This one statement says it all for me.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[kbordson 8]

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It's not that I "like" or "don't like" him. I don't "hate" or "love" him.

I do NOT know him.


I don't trust him. But that's not because he's "President Obama" - rather because he's a politician and has shown that he will do what he had to to get elected. (I think the infomercial directly prior to the election was an underhanded attempt to spend money to get elected. It wasn't the "right thing to do".... and it didn't help me get to "know him" at all.) He has also made comments that has increased the divide between Republicans, not that the Republicans have been trying to play nice either.

I just don't really trust politicians.

Is this you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XmerZEyHE

Not funny. Not amused. I am NOT blond.

[rehmwa 2]

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Then, of course, we'd always have the inarticulate fringe,

And they KNOW who they are.....

or maybe they don't......

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[Darius11 12]

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that's a far cry from the everyone personally hating GWB threads so rampant for so long

Just to clarify at least on my behalf. I didn’t like Bush because of his pollicies. I didn’t like that we invaded Iraq, I didn’t like the suspension of habeas corpus, and I did not respect him as an intelligent leader. I also did not like the no bid contracts that people close to him received, the CIA torture Jets, Torture, etc.

It was not personal it was what he was doing. I think your wrong to put it on his personality it was mostly what the administration did.

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it's a reflection on how politics is personal for the left, but about policy for the right - if you do a little mental digging one can see this makes a lot a sense if you understand the philosophies....

Rush I am disappointed. For someone who so strongly believes in what he does you have yet to name one specific thing Obama has done. Basically what I am understanding from your post is that you hate the democratic philosophy and no matter what you do not like what the dems want to do.

Is that close or did i miss your point.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Darius11 12]

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I grew up hearing that, "a man is know by the company he keeps". This one statement says it all for me.

Well ok, but I have friends from every religion to no religion, Republicans, democrats, Drs., Blue collar guys, however I will give you this I don’t hang out with any racists that I know of, he did do that.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[robskydiv 0]

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It's not that I "like" or "don't like" him. I don't "hate" or "love" him.

I do NOT know him.


I don't trust him. But that's not because he's "President Obama" - rather because he's a politician and has shown that he will do what he had to to get elected. (I think the infomercial directly prior to the election was an underhanded attempt to spend money to get elected. It wasn't the "right thing to do".... and it didn't help me get to "know him" at all.) He has also made comments that has increased the divide between Republicans, not that the Republicans have been trying to play nice either.

I just don't really trust politicians.

I don't trust most politicians either. However, I think that when it's all said and done, Obama's administration will be looked upon as a success.

[Darius11 12]

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Obama's administration will be looked upon as a success.

I hope we all hope this regardless of who we voted for.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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1.Freedom of speech is for everyone. When I see the Obama administration try to silience those that dissagree (like fox and Humana) is see him denieing a basic right.

FOS is overrated and is one of the least important BOR amendments. The gov can control the where and the when, just not the what. So you can go into your coat closet and scream what you want, so long as you don't bother the neighbors. Try going into a coutroom and saying what you want, but tell me beforehand soI can watch. It is dropped as so invaluable, but to legal schoolars it's a bit of a joke in most cases. Now assembling to protest something is the real place where the 1st is important, but in most cases being able to run a person's mouth is not protected unber the 1st. Most legally unducated people hang on teh 1st as tho it's imprtant beyond all. The most important amedments we have are the 4th and 14th. Even the 2nd just means we can take people down as thye army takes us down kinda thing. I'm big pro 2nd, but not as bif as the 4th and 14th, even the 5th and 6th are highly important. Hearing laypeople run on about the 1st is good for comedic relief.

So now how has he denied any person the right to express themselves, assemble, choose religion, etc? Pls cite instances in specific and write the claim as to what he violated.

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2.Entitlements are something that should be banned from federal government control.

Who shoudl controil it then, the church? Oh grwat, bow to jebus if you want your operation.

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It is not Obama's or any other administration right to take from some to support others.

The go whine about your hero, GHWB, I want my tax contributions back from the Iraq War.

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this is something that should be done on a local basis like family or town.

You need to flip your calendar from year 1880 to 2009 and welcome. That's not feasable.

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this way the costs would be lower because of the closer ties to the people and that would put a personal feel to the situation.

Costs would be lower because svs would be FAR lesser and people would die from simple deficiencies.

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Also those close to the situation would control the costs or the lazyness of the one receiving the aid.

Yes I know you just had a tripple bypass, get off your ass and mop the floor.

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(especially without any support of the oposing party).

Welcome to politics, it is partisan game - you must be new.

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I dont like the stimulus package

But you like the beneifit it yields like the rest of us.

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when ever the ideas of either party get put aside the country looses because balance is what keeps things in check and right now we have no balance and everyone knows how important is is to have balance.

I searched and I couldn't find your thread complaining about the non-balance of power when the R's owned the WH, Congress and the SCOTUS a couple years back. As well, you could find mine where I whined about it then and am not now. Let's not be hypocrites and realize all we want to do is win all the time.

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4. I don't like Obamas radical afiliations.

Is she related to you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XmerZEyHE

Which is he, Muslim, terrorist or both?

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Millions of Americans have fought and died defending this country from those that had the ideals like those of Obama's friends. why the sacrifice of millions only to let them in anyway?

With all respect to the greatest people to me, millions is high in respect to died; fought - yes, died - no. I realize you want to make your point so you exadgerate, but let's keep it real and accurate.

America's Wars Total
U.S. Military Service During War................43,185,893
Battle Deaths................................................653,708
Other Deaths (In Theater).................................14,560
Other Deaths in Service (Non-Theater).............525,930

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That doesn't include the Revolutionary War, but we weren't America yet then. And can we even deduct the Civil War dead from that number, or perhaps the Union side of it, considering those are Obama's ideals?

So how are these people you call Obama's freinds who have ideals that are akin to what the GI's have fought to end? List the friends and the ideals and then tell us how these frinds will influence Obama's decisions on teh country, or are you just trying to pick Obama's friends for him?

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so far your 'righties' are clear in noting they don't know the guy and the issue is they disagree with his politics or actions so far

that's a far cry from the everyone personally hating GWB threads so rampant for so long

it's a reflection on how politics is personal for the left, but about policy for the right - if you do a little mental digging one can see this makes a lot a sense if you understand the philosophies....

Notice how people don't Reagan and do hate GWB? Look at where they reside on the list of best/worst presidents. Reagan is 10 from the top and GWB is 6 from the bottom; do the math. Reagan wasn't hateable, he was a nice, senile old guy, GWB had shades of mass control and evil intent. Of course taht was when he was under Chenney in his early pres years, the latter years he figured out what he had done and tried to back off a bit.

Obama is not universally hateable like GWB, Hoover and the sort, even if you dislike his policies.

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I grew up hearing that, "a man is know by the company he keeps". This one statement says it all for me.

Good point: Cheney