npgraphicdesign 3 #1 November 5, 2009 Let's say you were trained in martial arts, and one of the focuses was disarming techniques; gun, knife, club, etc. Now, let's say someone comes up to you (or you and a group of your friends/loved ones) on the street, points an aforementioned weapon at you, and asks for your money & valuables. Would you give everything up, or would you try to disarm the person? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #2 November 5, 2009 How can this be (credibly) answered in the abstract? It depends totally not only on the victim's skill set, but on the individual circumstances. Having said that, it should be interesting to see how much keyboard kommando dick-swinging this generates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #3 November 5, 2009 Quote How can this be (credibly) answered in the abstract? It depends totally not only on the victim's skill set, but on the individual circumstances. Having said that, it should be interesting to see how much keyboard kommando dick-swinging this generates. Why does Arnold come to mind? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 November 5, 2009 QuoteWhy does Arnold come to mind? Arnold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #5 November 5, 2009 Quote Quote Why does Arnold come to mind? Arnold Not that guy. The Governator of California! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 November 5, 2009 Everything depends on circumstances and opportunity. If the use of said weapon is imminent, a preemptive counter attack is the only option. If the situation does not dictate a response is possible without injury to others, it may be unfeasible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #7 November 5, 2009 >kommando dick-swinging BwahhhhSwinging your dick in this situation is ill advised especially if the person has a knife. If then you have a disarmingly freakishly large dick- that might buy a few seconds of distraction though, and draw a crowd.-And at which time someone can squat behind them then you can push them over Three Stooges style Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashmcwhly 0 #8 November 5, 2009 Quote Now, let's say someone comes up to you (or you and a group of your friends/loved ones) on the street, points an aforementioned weapon at you, and asks for your money & valuables. Would you give everything up, or would you try to disarm the person? That's why I have a CCW and dummy wallet. If the dummy wallet doesn't work, its onto the .40 cal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 November 5, 2009 The trick is to throw the wallet, then lift and push. The surprise of being ventilated through the MO will stop the fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 November 5, 2009 You guys are so rugged. Give us more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 November 5, 2009 You are going to pull it off Andy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #12 November 5, 2009 Where is the "I would hit him with my purse" option?You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 November 5, 2009 QuoteWhere is the "I would hit him with my purse" option? That would be quite disarming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #14 November 5, 2009 Where's the 'I would scream like a girl and try to run away' choice? Not saying I would, but I think your poll needs an option at the other extreme to offset the 'I am Jason Bourne' fantasists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmills0705 0 #15 November 5, 2009 QuoteWhere is the "I would hit him with my purse" option? Where is the "kick him in the nuts" option?Kim Mills USPA D21696 Tandem I, AFF I and Static Line I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aresye 0 #16 November 5, 2009 I like the dummy wallet idea. Unfortunately, if it doesn't work, you could possibly have a more aggressive person in front of you, and a higher chance of being hurt. It's all about deescalating the situation. If they ask for your wallet, give them you wallet. You can always cancel your cards, get a new license, and in the case of military, get a new card, and set up countermeasures in case that person tries to steal your identity. No matter what's in your wallet, it isn't worth your life. If you're a CCW holder, you would not want to brandish the weapon unless you are absolutely sure your life is threatened, or somebody else is. If you don't have a CCW permit, and say, have a knife, I wouldn't consider using it unless you are trained in knife fighting. Many street fighting based techniques, like Krav Maga, and CQD that they teach to SEALs. Without a solid base on knife fighting techniques, you have a higher chance of being hurt, and/or having your own weapon turned against you.Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #17 November 5, 2009 >Where is the "kick him in the nuts" option? winner! Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheach 0 #18 November 5, 2009 Option A is cry...Oh wait, I say that too much. Okay...I have my conceal carry license.I woke up next to a blowup doll Ash....so what do you think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #19 November 5, 2009 >Option A is cry or; rock-paper- scissorsBeware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #20 November 5, 2009 Quote Let's say you were trained in martial arts, and one of the focuses was disarming techniques; gun, knife, club, etc. Now, let's say someone comes up to you (or you and a group of your friends/loved ones) on the street, points an aforementioned weapon at you, and asks for your money & valuables. Would you give everything up, or would you try to disarm the person? It depends. Far, far too many variables. Most of them depend on what level of skill the attacker demonstrates. And what level of threat he poses. The use of force has to fit the situation, and I have to be flexible enough to allow for that. "Stuff" isn't worth anyone's life. Even a bad guy (mainly because of the hassle that comes with even the most clear-cut self defense killing). But unfortunately, the bad guy isn't always satisfied with just your stuff. Story Here Give them what they want, get killed anywayAnd off to SC we go!!Edit to add: And it depends on what my realistic options are. If dude is already pointing a loaded gun at me, in a manner that disarming isn't feasible (it's called weapon retention training) then I'm screwed. I can get a gun out and on target fast, but not that fast."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #21 November 5, 2009 A mugger or whatever brandishing a weapon gives enough reason to conclude they intend to use it. That being said they had better be prepared to be out of the human gene pool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #22 November 5, 2009 A person can be trained but until they are face to face with a nut holding a gun or a knife who knows if one could react. I would say just let the ass hat have the purse or wallet.TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #23 November 5, 2009 Quote then lift and push The Wonder Bra ads tell me they lift and separate. Maybe they are good for self-defense as well Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #24 November 5, 2009 QuoteA mugger or whatever brandishing a weapon gives enough reason to conclude they intend to use it. That being said they had better be prepared to be out of the human gene pool. Yes, but there is a hell of a difference between a small dude with a little knife and a big guy holding a loaded .357 in a way that I can't get to it. And keep in mind that "Deadly Force" will have to be justified to the cops, prosecutor, and perhaps a judge and jury."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #25 November 5, 2009 +1 Everyone has a plan till they get punched. What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites