Would you try to disarm someone on the street?

[davjohns 1]

I have taught multiple martial arts for years. I am in great physical condition. I usually carry a gun and almost always a knife.

I find that the way I carry myself dissuades people from approaching me with ill intent. So, I'm not sure the situation would ever present itself.

Having said that, I agree that it would depend on the situation.

As to use of deadly force, my advice has always been to memorize the following line for the police and other authorities regardless of the situation: "It's all a bit much right now. I need some time to put it all together. I'm sure I'll be able to describe it all clearly after I talk to my lawyer."

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

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I have taught multiple martial arts for years. I am in great physical condition. I usually carry a gun and almost always a knife.

I find that the way I carry myself dissuades people from approaching me with ill intent. So, I'm not sure the situation would ever present itself.

Having said that, I agree that it would depend on the situation.

As to use of deadly force, my advice has always been to memorize the following line for the police and other authorities regardless of the situation: "It's all a bit much right now. I need some time to put it all together. I'm sure I'll be able to describe it all clearly after I talk to my lawyer."

Yep, that's the line I was taught.

It might mean spending a night in jail until my lawyer can arrive (and will mean spending a bunch on the lawyer too), that's why it is a last resort.

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[Misternatural 0]

Unfortunately for Nikita, he is a bouncer as far as I know, so he has to actually deal with this potential scenario. I have taken martial arts training for a number of years but outside of the physical benefits I stopped because I realized that unless a person trains specifically and repetitively for a wide spectrum of scenarios and your moves are executed perfectly- you are dealing with an unpredictable and a non cooperative enemy and you are likely to fail- unless you are interested only in hero points- it's a waste of effort.

only if I had an equal or greater weapon in hand and I was sufficiently motivated, was in a troublesome mood, or had no choice but to be killed would I attempt any move on the perp.

I ask myself sometimes how skydiving influences the decision making process and I think that it gives us an edge over the wuffo in that we have more of a skewed sense of consequences. in other words a skydiver psychologically is more apt to go to the edge and risk action.

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[BillyVance 34]

I wouldn't even try, unless I was as good as Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris, but then again, what they did was Hollywood, not real life.

I should get a fake wallet though, cram it with plenty of filler cards that are worthless, and maybe some fake money that looks real enough at a quick glance. That might give me enough time to make a get away.

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[jcd11235 0]

Generally speaking, no. Self defense is about escaping the threat, not neutralizing or eliminating the threat. If escape is possible without engaging the threat, it is foolish to try to engage.

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[Misternatural 0]

>A mugger or whatever brandishing a weapon Freakishly large dick gives enough reason to conclude they intend to use it.

[livendive 8]

Having disarmed a couple guys when I was younger and gained some (ok, a tiny amount) of wisdom as I've aged, I gotta say it would depend on my gut as to whether or not compliance would avert harm.

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[skyrider 0]

I religiously carry pepper spray on my belt, so I would act as if reaching for my wallet, then light them up!

[Andy9o8 2]

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I religiously carry pepper spray on my belt, so I would act as if reaching for my wallet, then light them up!

Hypothetically - if a person is pointing a gun directly at you at close range, and he gets sprayed with pepper spray, would that necessarily prevent him from (even blindly) squeezing the trigger?

[Misternatural 0]

>I religiously carry pepper spray on my belt

When the Mace factory was located here, I was a lead carpenter building office space there for them....every time I climbed a ladder the Mace fumes would be near the ceiling...that was literally a very sad place to work. ...The salesmen use to pitch being dosed with it as "bobbing for french fries"however I swear the employees were immune to that stuff

[downwardspiral 0]

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I find that the way I carry myself dissuades people from approaching me with ill intent. So, I'm not sure the situation would ever present itself.

I agree and feel the same. There are wolves and there are sheep and there are sheep dogs. Although I have never been confronted in such a way, having spent a number of years training in martial arts, I fear my self-defense mechanism will kick in.

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[kallend 2,106]

Would it make a difference if they were armed with a banana or a bunch of grapes?

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[BillyVance 34]

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>I religiously carry pepper spray on my belt

]however I swear the employees were immune to that stuff

Isn't that stuff less effective on people who have been exposed to it enough times? Like the way vaccines work? Just curious.

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[christelsabine 1]

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then lift and push

The Wonder Bra ads tell me they lift and separate. Maybe they are good for self-defense as well

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Especially the ones with the steel reinforcement ...

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[markd_nscr986 0]

My man boobs aren't big enough for a wonder bra

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[Lucky... 0]

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Where is the "I would hit him with my purse" option?

Where is the "kick him in the nuts" option?

Come on; manlaw, there are certain things off-limits that women don't acknowledge

[Misternatural 0]

Well I can tell you this with certainty-
There was one employee who was in the cannister pressure test chamber all day and mind you this place was NOT state of the art OSHA approved, he was constantly being exposed to it ...his eyes were a little red but he looked like he could still kick someone's ass just fine at the end of the day- and probably did....regularly

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[shropshire 0]

I'd save my own worthless life by hiding behind a big woman .... and offering up her handbag too.

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[npgraphicdesign 3]

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Unfortunately for Nikita, he is a bouncer as far as I know, so he has to actually deal with this potential scenario. I have taken martial arts training for a number of years but outside of the physical benefits I stopped because I realized that unless a person trains specifically and repetitively for a wide spectrum of scenarios and your moves are executed perfectly- you are dealing with an unpredictable and a non cooperative enemy and you are likely to fail- unless you are interested only in hero points- it's a waste of effort.

only if I had an equal or greater weapon in hand and I was sufficiently motivated, was in a troublesome mood, or had no choice but to be killed would I attempt any move on the perp.

I ask myself sometimes how skydiving influences the decision making process and I think that it gives us an edge over the wuffo in that we have more of a skewed sense of consequences. in other words a skydiver psychologically is more apt to go to the edge and risk action.

I am still a bouncer. I'm also 5'8ish and 190...not your typical bouncer stature. But, I've never been in a serious fight at my job. Partly because it's a live music bar and not a place where people go to start fights for idiotic reasons. Partly because any potential altercation I've been in I've always broken up with words and not my fists. The worst it got is jumping between two guys that were wailing at each other, stepping in front of a much bigger guy who slapped a girl and escorting him out, and a few other similar situation. Of course, for a 3 year stint when i wasn't working there, two of the bouncers were acting like assholes and got stabbed for their efforts. I'm not saying that anyone deserves to get stabbed, but for their idiotic actions, they deserved at least a smack in the face; unfortunately they got stabbed (but lived to tell about it.) And finally, because I'm a small guy, most bigger guys think a. he's too small i don't want to embarrass him or b. he's small but he must know some shit, i better leave him alone.

Back to the weapon topic...if my life was in danger, and I was sure of that 100%, I would definitely try to disarm them or go down trying, especially if it meant defending my loved ones. But...is it always 100% guarantee that anyone who pulls a weapon on you WILL use it once they get what they want? The person yelling obscenities and waving their gun at you might slink away into the night once they get your wallet; the quiet psycho might just shoot/stab you and take anything they want. So, can you be 100% sure that their weapon will be used against you, and if so, should you try to disarm them? I say you can never be sure...

[Erroll 80]

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Would it make a difference if they were armed with a banana or a bunch of grapes?

Come on, punk. Make me a fruit salad!

[Misternatural 0]

>he's small but he must know some shit, i better leave him alone.


Yep, imagine being a 5'5 dude in this world. I have no choice but to believe that crazy and mean or shrewd and clever beats big every time or I would not survive out there.

I'ts one of the reasons I train in the woods with firearms in case I am faced with a horrible life threatening situation.

Failing diplomacy, negotiation- or law enforcement
Rock-paper-scissors-gun.....gun wins every time.

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[aresye 0]

If anybody likes the sheepdog concept, and is an active or aspiring sheepdog, the YouTube user "nutnfancy" has tons of videos for gear reviews, concealed weapons, knives, employment tactics, mass chaos/anarchy situations and what kind of gear to have, first aid, wilderness survival, etc. He's a firm believer in the sheepdog concept, both regarding the combat side, and non-combat side of scenarios. The videos are long, but he does a good job.

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[Nataly 38]

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I find that the way I carry myself dissuades people from approaching me with ill intent. So, I'm not sure the situation would ever present itself.

I agree and feel the same. There are wolves and there are sheep and there are sheep dogs. Although I have never been confronted in such a way, having spent a number of years training in martial arts, I fear my self-defense mechanism will kick in.

That might be true of a sane/rational individual.. Unfortunately, you can't be sure that the person you're dealing with isn't a schizo or on some serious mind-altering drugs.. The fact is that you can reasonably expect normal people to behave a certain way, but you cannot at all predict what a lunatic will do..

I didn't fully appreciate this fact until I moved to London.. You just never know what to expect from the crazies..

I've often thought that I'm feisty and would instinctively put up a fight.. Now I hope to god I would have the good sense to

a - not put myself in dangerous situations in the first place
b - comply/run away to avoid harm should harm come my way

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[aresye 0]

Especially considering you can't even carry in the UK.

Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours.