Tiger woods injured in car accident

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I wonder if this will have any effect on the decision of the Nobel Prize committee.

I didn't hear it was Obama in the SUV.

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>Because these celebs love the cash and publicity when it benefits
>them, when it doesn't, they cry foul.

Have you ever met this guy, or are you just going off your prejudices?

Being general; do you think he likes this attention? Obvioulsy not. Do you think he likes attention when he wins a big round? Sure. He gets paid way too much for doing nothing important, is celebrated beecause he is masterful with a golf ball, meanwhile there are a lot of unsung heroes working for free. Yes, Bill, dropping a little ball in a hole 270 yds away is important to society . Now that he ALLEGEDLY fucked around on his wife, he is just another lacky celeb who isn't satisfied with his model wife. Poor baby - fuck him. I will laugh when this dies down, then his wife takes him to the cleans

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Isn't PC well established when you crash into a tree?

Not necessarily for a blood/breath test.

I'm not sure how the procedure is setup for these sorts of things in Florida, I do have a reasonable understanding on how it works in Texas. Also, a PBT is really unreliable for criminal charges, so many don't use it in these sorts of situations. So you're left with the Brethalizer 5000 or a blood draw. To get to those steps an arrest for DWI has to be made. So you establish the PC for a DWI arrest prior to the chemical test having been completed.

A car wrapped around a tree is what people in the business refer to as a clue, but it alone isn't PC. It gives you the ability to detain the driver and determine if a crime (DWI for instance) has been committed. Obviously, that is significantly trumped by taking care of injuries that may have been sustained.

A court order to retrieve blood tests completed at the ER is a safe way to complete the investigation into a possible DWI accident. It allows for the full treatment of any injuries and allows for an investigation. As to the possibility of of a family violence offense, I'm sure that an investigation will be completed.

What can we do until those investigations are complete? Well, we can make jokes...we could even watch a troll try to explain his expertise. Either one is entertaining.

I know Fl. law pretty well when it comes to DUI. And I know that neighorhood VERY WELL. Tiger walks cause of his celeb status, domestic dispute for sure. If it were me (a pissant) they'd have come into the house immediatly arrested me or she for not answering questions and taken me to jail to post bond on whatever charges. And FHP handles all accident investigations in the state. Anbody remember Charles Barkley throwing a drunk thru a plate glass window at Church St. Station in Orlando? Walked w/ a misdomeanor and a hefty payment to the person. Anybody remember OJ? Money walks and....................Pardon the spelling I'm in a hurry. And DZ.com crashes up my computer every time I use spell check. What up HH?

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Olympians are one thing, pro sports, actors, etc = whores sucking millions for benefiting society in no way.

Unlike baseball players with guaranteed multiyear contracts, golfers have to earn their paychecks (possible exception of the skins). And the endorsement dollars, which make up the bulk of his earnings, can be pulled if he no longer produces. He not sucking anything out of the unwilling.

If you want to debate if golf is a real sport, that's a different topic. But he is earning his keep.

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>Because it's such a classist nation, it breeds this kind of emotion, at
>least from poor fuckers like me.

If we had a classless nation, then Tiger's accident would be no more newsworthy than the accident I got into in 1989, where I nearly totalled my (almost new) Honda CRX.

However, since you do seem to care a great deal about class, Tiger Wood's accident is more important to you - based on your jealousy of his material possessions.

No, my rub on this nation is that if you can put a ball in a hole 270 yards away in 3 strokes, you're awesome, 2 strokes brilliant, 1 stroke a god. However, volunteer at the shelter, raise kids right while in poverty, ect and you're a loser. This nation is such a turd when it comes to its value ssytem. Call it jealousy if you wish, it's not about Tiger, it's about the corrupt system. So these people make a living off their worthless skills, the media is all over them when it feels good, their there when it doesn't; too bad.

So grab a set of clubs, or a football, or a baseball bat and have at it. The only person stopping you from making millions by beating Tiger at his own game is you.
Of course you may not be athletically gifted. That's ok, because you can also make a lot of money...even more than Tiger...by using your brain. Just ask Bill Gates. Once again, the only person standing in your way is YOU.

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>No, my rub on this nation is that if you can put a ball in a hole 270
>yards away in 3 strokes, you're awesome, 2 strokes brilliant, 1 stroke
>a god.

I have never seen anyone worship Tiger Woods. He gets paid _very_ well for his skills, which are extraordinary.

>However, volunteer at the shelter, raise kids right while in poverty,
>ect and you're a loser.

The Tiger Woods foundation helps "raise kids right while in poverty" by giving needy kids scholarships - dozens so far. Why do you think that makes him a loser?

>Call it jealousy if you wish, it's not about Tiger, it's about the corrupt system.

And about the people who try to drag down the people who _do_ try to help.

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>Yes, Bill, dropping a little ball in a hole 270 yds away is important to society.

No more important than setting a skydiving world record, inventing a new wireless power transfer method, or directing an orchestra. Do you hate these people as well?

> Now that he ALLEGEDLY fucked around on his wife, he is just another
> lacky celeb who isn't satisfied with his model wife. Poor baby - fuck
> him. I will laugh when this dies down, then his wife takes him to the
> cleans.

What would you say to someone who decided you showed the same infidelity, and hated you for your lack of charitable work? After all, they have as much proof as you do.

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Olympians are one thing, pro sports, actors, etc = whores sucking millions for benefiting society in no way.

Unlike baseball players with guaranteed multiyear contracts, golfers have to earn their paychecks (possible exception of the skins). And the endorsement dollars, which make up the bulk of his earnings, can be pulled if he no longer produces. He not sucking anything out of the unwilling.

If you want to debate if golf is a real sport, that's a different topic. But he is earning his keep.

I don't want to deabte is golf is a sport or a game. I acknowldege that he is the best in the world, maybe of all time. I'm not hating on Golf, Tiger or anyone, just that it's funny when celeb whores get caught with their pants down. I don't wish death upon any, not even James Woods or Dennis Miller (hardcore maggots), I just laugh when the very medium that gets them their celebrity status also gets them negative attention.

Take Kobe, another person who is of the best at his societally worthless skill, he has a fine wife, fucks around and then the media beats him up. Love it. Now if a person is truly a benefit to society and they undergo hardship, I feel for them. With all this, I don't attend games, but I'm a sports nut. I think most actors, athletes, etc are really a pimple on the ass of society.

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>Because it's such a classist nation, it breeds this kind of emotion, at
>least from poor fuckers like me.

If we had a classless nation, then Tiger's accident would be no more newsworthy than the accident I got into in 1989, where I nearly totalled my (almost new) Honda CRX.

However, since you do seem to care a great deal about class, Tiger Wood's accident is more important to you - based on your jealousy of his material possessions.

No, my rub on this nation is that if you can put a ball in a hole 270 yards away in 3 strokes, you're awesome, 2 strokes brilliant, 1 stroke a god. However, volunteer at the shelter, raise kids right while in poverty, ect and you're a loser. This nation is such a turd when it comes to its value ssytem. Call it jealousy if you wish, it's not about Tiger, it's about the corrupt system. So these people make a living off their worthless skills, the media is all over them when it feels good, their there when it doesn't; too bad.

So grab a set of clubs, or a football, or a baseball bat and have at it. The only person stopping you from making millions by beating Tiger at his own game is you.
Of course you may not be athletically gifted. That's ok, because you can also make a lot of money...even more than Tiger...by using your brain. Just ask Bill Gates. Once again, the only person standing in your way is YOU.

That's true, it doen't matter what family you're born into . Bill Gates, yea, he was poor too as a kid. I still laugh at that POS crying about 600k for his property tax - what a dick. Richest guy in the world - boo-hoo.

And you don't have to be from a rich family, but have great, caring parents. I don;t think the Williams' sisters dad was rich, but he was attentive and supportive. Tiger's dad too, so you either have to come from money or have parents steering you in teh right direction from an early age, then the rest is up to you.

Class mobility in the US is pretty much a thing of the past.

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Again, how is Tiger sucking money away from society? Golf tourneys pay for performance, and are funded by sponsors and by ticket sales. Ticket sales go up substantially for the events he goes to. This is all voluntary money being put into the pot, which he has earned top spot on ~82 times.

As I said, this is radically different than baseball, where you get guaranteed money based on prior performance. Football is also that way, but you can be cut if you slack off too much. Golf courses tend to be private and self sufficient, do not require 100-500M in gov bonds like stadium projects have.

The recent surge in poker tournaments are similar - there is no barrier to entry, and everyone puts in their money willingly.

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I have never seen anyone worship Tiger Woods. He gets paid _very_ well for his skills, which are extraordinary.

He gets worshipped by way of million of $$. Bill, I have nothing against Tiger, this is about, "hate the game, not the player." The game not being golf, but the ugly, classist, fascist nation.

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The Tiger Woods foundation helps "raise kids right while in poverty" by giving needy kids scholarships - dozens so far. Why do you think that makes him a loser?

I don't need to hear about Tiger's tax shelter. The point I was making is that this currently ugly country celebrates the wrong people much of the time. Why aren't we arming our troops with better protected vehicles if we must be over there fighting, and tax the rich to do so? Actors, athletes, etc = scabs on our asses. Military people, charitable orgs = heroes.

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And about the people who try to drag down the people who _do_ try to help.

Yea, if the rich didn't get a tax break I wonder how many celebs would really contribute and how much?

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Class mobility in the US is pretty much a thing of the past.

Don't tell William J. Clinton or Barrack H. Obama.
Come to think of it, the house I grew up in didn't have running water until I was 6. My parents moved in there when I was 2...and it was an upgrade from where they had lived. I went to college, got my degree, and now live comfortably looking forward to retirement.
Yeah, you're right. Class mobility is a thing of the past.

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No more important than setting a skydiving world record, inventing a new wireless power transfer method, or directing an orchestra. Do you hate these people as well?

Yep, but most people don't meet the level of wrongfully-directed success that Tiger, Jordan, etc do for doing nothing beneficial for society. BTW, developing a new wireless power transfer method IS beneficial for society, the rest is just entertainment.

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What would you say to someone who decided you showed the same infidelity, and hated you for your lack of charitable work? After all, they have as much proof as you do.

It always comes back to the affidavit from god or it didn;t happen. I also what you on my hypothetical jury in the future.

This is a civil matter, or it will be when it's all covered up and hell, the victim didn't want it prosecuted, so it is a civil matter for all accounts. I think the evidence is in and I hope it isn't prosecuted or further investigated, I just love the media slam of a person who doesn't produce anything for society and gets celebrated to the tune of > 1 Billion $.

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Again, how is Tiger sucking money away from society? Golf tourneys pay for performance, and are funded by sponsors and by ticket sales. Ticket sales go up substantially for the events he goes to. This is all voluntary money being put into the pot, which he has earned top spot on ~82 times.

As I said, this is radically different than baseball, where you get guaranteed money based on prior performance. Football is also that way, but you can be cut if you slack off too much. Golf courses tend to be private and self sufficient, do not require 100-500M in gov bonds like stadium projects have.

The recent surge in poker tournaments are similar - there is no barrier to entry, and everyone puts in their money willingly.

I'm not saying he is ripping anyone off, I just get a kick out of people who are non-productive and celebrated, then get their ass handed to them. Remember Aerosmith's, "eat the rich?" Same concept, but I'm not advocating Dahmerism. Kind of ironic a bunch of worthless millionaires advocating eating eating the rich.

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Don't tell William J. Clinton or Barrack H. Obama.

Yea, they weren't rich before the WH . Furthermore, it used to be a possibility here, not just as of the last 20-30 years.

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Come to think of it, the house I grew up in didn't have running water until I was 6. My parents moved in there when I was 2...and it was an upgrade from where they had lived. I went to college, got my degree, and now live comfortably looking forward to retirement.

Again, it used to be, not for most over the last 20-30 years.

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Ya know, Bill, we really do need a little green faced jealousy emoticon to use in threads like this one.
Kinda like the "mad" emoticon, only green. With smoke coming out the ears.

HAMMER:
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>He gets worshipped by way of million of $$. Bill,

I know a lot of people who make millions of $$. No one worships them. Some people like them, but generally that's because they're likable, not because of their money. Fortunately, most people don't hate them because of it either.

> The point I was making is that this currently ugly country celebrates
> the wrong people much of the time.

You'd rather have people who do nothing celebrated, as opposed to a celebrity who helps send dozens of poor kids to school? Would you rather see them kicked out of those schools?

>Actors, athletes, etc = scabs on our asses. Military people, charitable
>orgs = heroes.

What about military vets who become actors? Athletes who spend part of their lives doing charitable work? Do you hate Bob Geldorf, a millionaire and very popular singer? He created Live Aid, an event that drew in around $300 million for the poor. Does the fact that he's made more than that in his life turn him from a charitable organization leader to a scab?

I find it much more productive to base my judgments on people on what they do with their lives and how they treat others, rather than on their position in society, net worth, salary, occupation, color, rate or religion. Stereotypes are easy - but often wrong.

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>BTW, developing a new wireless power transfer method IS beneficial
>for society . . .

Why? It will just make portable-device manufacturers more money. It won't feed the poor or build a needy family a house. How does it help society?

>It always comes back to the affidavit from god . . .

Or, in this case, Lucky.

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I know a lot of people who make millions of $$. No one worships them. Some people like them, but generally that's because they're likable, not because of their money. Fortunately, most people don't hate them because of it either.

No, Bill, the money is the worship, the medium by which he's worshipped. I don't care if people say nothing, it's the billion $.

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You'd rather have people who do nothing celebrated, as opposed to a celebrity who helps send dozens of poor kids to school? Would you rather see them kicked out of those schools?

I'd rather taxes be such that the gov does the needed work rather than waiting for some rich people who needs a tax writeoff.

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What about military vets who become actors?

Like Reagan? He was a war dodger as a GI and a 3rd rate actor. I dunno, name one. I think it becomes a sum total of their deeds as to whether I get entertainment by their pain or not.

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Athletes who spend part of their lives doing charitable work?

It's all situational, we can dissent this to the nth degree, but teh point is gravy-trainers who get caught with their pants down, get ass kicked by their model wife and may lose a sponsor or 2...well, I can;t laugh harder.

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I find it much more productive to base my judgments on people on what they do with their lives and how they treat others, rather than on their position in society, net worth, salary, occupation, color, rate or religion. Stereotypes are easy - but often wrong.

Where did race/color come in? Don't infer I'm there. You're picking this way apart, a gravy-training, non-productive person gets married to a smokin hot chick, makes his living by dioing something that doesn't further society in any way I can think of, he becomes in this case a billionaire or damn near and now his beautiful wife isn't enough for him so he ALLEGEDLY fucks around and she kicks his ass..... I can't laugh harder.

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Why? It will just make portable-device manufacturers more money. It won't feed the poor or build a needy family a house. How does it help society?

It could be used for medical devices or a myriad of other emergency devices, Bill. Quit posturing.

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Or, in this case, Lucky.

You're the one wanting absolute proof on a very obvious circumstantial issue.

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>No, Bill, the money is the worship . . .

Ah, so many of my friends are worshiped! Cool. I'll have to let them know of their new god-like status.

>but teh point is gravy-trainers who get caught with their pants
>down, get ass kicked by their model wife and may lose a sponsor or
>2...well, I can;t laugh harder.

Like I said, I hope you never find yourself in a situation where people laugh at, say, a serious injury you incur while skydiving, since it's common knowledge that skydivers jump just to pull their string at the last second. I mean, what do you expect when you do that?

>It could be used for medical devices or a myriad of other emergency devices.

Agreed. And Tiger's money could be used to send kids to school. And while the medical device application is hypothetical, his charity work is real.

>You're the one wanting absolute proof on a very obvious
>circumstantial issue.

Nope. He's done nothing wrong; I need no proof of something that didn't happen. You, however, have already judged and convicted him of an imagined crime.

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No, my rub on this nation is that if you can put a ball in a hole 270 yards away in 3 strokes, you're awesome, 2 strokes brilliant, 1 stroke a god. However, volunteer at the shelter, raise kids right while in poverty, ect and you're a loser. This nation is such a turd when it comes to its value ssytem. Call it jealousy if you wish, it's not about Tiger, it's about the corrupt system. So these people make a living off their worthless skills, the media is all over them when it feels good, their there when it doesn't; too bad.

Your perspective on this is all out of whack. Being a great golfer does not make him a "god" it makes him an entertainer, and people like to be entertained.

Doing good deeds and loyal honorable acts makes someone a good person, not an entertainer.

The real problem here is that you and too many other people give a shit about entertainers personal lives. The only thing that could make the entertainment industry better would be if we knew absolutely nothing about the entertainers personal lives.

I don't want to know Sean Penn's f'n political views or who Paris Hilton is making a sex video with or who Brad Pitt is now married to for the umpteenth time, and I sure as shit don't give a f#@k about Tiger Woods marital problems... I just want them to shut the f'k up and entertain.

Once again the entertainers aren't the problems it's all the people that want to know theirs.

*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.*
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Ah, so many of my friends are worshiped! Cool. I'll have to let them know of their new god-like status.

Are they worthless do-nothings who don't produce and just collect millions, give to charities based upon what their tax accontant says?

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Like I said, I hope you never find yourself in a situation where people laugh at, say, a serious injury you incur while skydiving, since it's common knowledge that skydivers jump just to pull their string at the last second. I mean, what do you expect when you do that?

Actually I'm a higher puller. But the thing is, I produce in life, I don't have the highly-needed skill of putting a small ball in a hole yards away or shooting a BBall from the 3-line with great %ages. See, all I do is maintain aircraft, so who am I? Most people in here produce something rather than shoot par and get applauded, adored, thrown millions at and then decide my model wife isn't good enough so I have to fuck something else.

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Agreed. And Tiger's money could be used to send kids to school. And while the medical device application is hypothetical, his charity work is real.

Right and allocated largely based upon his tax accountant. See, Bill, I agree, taxes should be dirt low and we should pray for the good will of the rich.

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Nope. He's done nothing wrong; I need no proof of something that didn't happen. You, however, have already judged and convicted him of an imagined crime.

Yep, I believe his facial injuries with no blood in the vehicle and his wife breaking out the furthest window away and crawling over is legitimate. It all makes sense. Bill, juries get fed this stuff, then throw in the hour: 2:30 AM and they convict. Oh, pardon me, only poor worthless fuckers get convicted, OJ, Blake and the rest have shown us differently and how celbrity not only gets you millions for carrying a ball like no one, but it's good for murder acquittals too.

BTW, he has done nothing wrong, you're right. This isn't a matter of him getting away with a crime, it's a matter of him covering up Kobe style, for something that might cost the poor baby billionaire a few multi-mill dollar endorsements.

Point is, celebrity status creates a false sense of productivity and is grossly awarded usually to the wrong people and I don't wish ill upon them, but when they get caught with their pants down, get bad attention, even get harrassed; so what? Celebrity is hard to come by, so when the negative aspect is there, they asked for it; tough shit. If Tiger was a MC guy and this happened, it wouldn't even make the police blotter.

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Your perspective on this is all out of whack.

You're right, I'll just think your way.

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Being a great golfer does not make him a "god" it makes him an entertainer, and people like to be entertained.

Right, but in the toilet it makes him a god. When you get thrown a billion dollars in his short lifetime for being a great golfer, he is with god status in teh US.

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Doing good deeds and loyal honorable acts makes someone a good person, not an entertainer.

And puts him in a lower tax braket.

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The real problem here is that you and too many other people give a shit about entertainers personal lives. The only thing that could make the entertainment industry better would be if we knew absolutely nothing about the entertainers personal lives.

And if that were the case, not giving a shit about aour appointed dieties, then we wouldn't celbrate them as much ad those 50 mill $ endorsements might be 2 mill or not at all. So this giving a shit about our celebrities is what makes them filthy rich and what haunts them when they fuck up.

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I don't want to know Sean Penn's f'n political views or who Paris Hilton is making a sex video with or who Brad Pitt is now married to for the umpteenth time, and I sure as shit don't give a f#@k about Tiger Woods marital problems... I just want them to shut the f'k up and entertain.

And here inlies the root of the issue: it's entertaining when the entertainers get their dick caught in the doorjam. Part of the entertainment is wantching some of society beg for people to quit harrassing them. Is this the typical Tiger-lover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Just put, "tiger" where you hear, "Brittney." It's fun to watch the groupies rally aroud the worthless, non-productve class of our society that makes momey as if they just cured cancer. Of course when the other sector of society laughs at the troubled celeb and at the Brittney-lover types, well they must be jealous. Or, it could be the circus tent gets bigger with the protector's of these worthless celebs and that makes it all that much more entertaining. The sad fringe is with people like Mackenzie Phillips, Dana Plato; kids caught up the pseudo-celebrity and w/o guidance. Now they could have been drug addicts anyway, but that is the sad product of teh toilet worshiping and exonterating our people who produce nothing and get paid as if they were worth 1 million people. Again, the defenders of these people are fun too.

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That's true, it doen't matter what family you're born into . Bill Gates, yea, he was poor too as a kid. I still laugh at that POS crying about 600k for his property tax - what a dick. Richest guy in the world - boo-hoo.

And you don't have to be from a rich family, but have great, caring parents. I don;t think the Williams' sisters dad was rich, but he was attentive and supportive. Tiger's dad too, so you either have to come from money or have parents steering you in teh right direction from an early age, then the rest is up to you.

Class mobility in the US is pretty much a thing of the past.

Most of my childhood was spent on welfare with my single mother. I was at various points neglected and physically and sexually abused. I entered adulthood as a scofflaw high school dropout. I later earned my GED, then an AA, then a BS, and today own a small business, a nice house, and make more in a day and a half than my mother and I survived on each month in the early 80s. I had the option of maintaining the status quo, but chose not to. I think the opportunities available to us are fine, and anyone who chooses to not avail themself of those opportunities has primarily themself to blame.

Blues,
Dave

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