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QuoteQuotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091129/ap_on_re_us/us_officers_shot
I wonder if they were personally targeted or just a random cop killing? It seems the latter. Depraved society.
It wouldn't suprise me if members of the citizenry are deciding to "fight back".
How many cops have killed citizens lately in this new police state?
One might want to think twice before becoming a blue line fraternity brother.
Blues,
Cliff
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Yea I know, I'm not the biggest fan of cops either. But this is a random act and it's sad to think of 4 people dead, even if they are cops that *might* have done this to others, there is a very real chance that these were good cops too. The real problem is with the court, BTW, they let the dirties get away with murder and this makes all cops look bad. The purpose/desgn of the establishment is to draw a line between cops and citizens; this may have been an ugly byproduct of that problem.
Lucky... 0
QuoteIt has been said that when the police violate the law there is no law , only anarchy.
Absolutely. When the law becomes lawless people lose regard for it and it makes society have no repsoect for laws they would otherwise follow. IOW's criminals can be manufactured.
QuoteQuoteQuotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091129/ap_on_re_us/us_officers_shot
I wonder if they were personally targeted or just a random cop killing? It seems the latter. Depraved society.
It wouldn't suprise me if members of the citizenry are deciding to "fight back".
How many cops have killed citizens lately in this new police state?
One might want to think twice before becoming a blue line fraternity brother.
Blues,
Cliff
Yea I know, I'm not the biggest fan of cops either. But this is a random act and it's sad to think of 4 people dead, even if they are cops that *might* have done this to others, there is a very real chance that these were good cops too. The real problem is with the court, BTW, they let the dirties get away with murder and this makes all cops look bad. The purpose/desgn of the establishment is to draw a line between cops and citizens; this may have been an ugly byproduct of that problem.
While I understand what you are saying let's not forget about the "blue line".
That unstated law among cops that they are brothers and will sweep alot under the rug for a fellow cop.
While I don't condone the execution of anyone, even crooked cops, I can understand how the less enlightened may believe in the righteousness of such an action.
Blues,
Cliff
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Lucky... 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091129/ap_on_re_us/us_officers_shot
I wonder if they were personally targeted or just a random cop killing? It seems the latter. Depraved society.
It wouldn't suprise me if members of the citizenry are deciding to "fight back".
How many cops have killed citizens lately in this new police state?
One might want to think twice before becoming a blue line fraternity brother.
Blues,
Cliff
Yea I know, I'm not the biggest fan of cops either. But this is a random act and it's sad to think of 4 people dead, even if they are cops that *might* have done this to others, there is a very real chance that these were good cops too. The real problem is with the court, BTW, they let the dirties get away with murder and this makes all cops look bad. The purpose/desgn of the establishment is to draw a line between cops and citizens; this may have been an ugly byproduct of that problem.
While I understand what you are saying let's not forget about the "blue line".
That unstated law among cops that they are brothers and will sweep alot under the rug for a fellow cop.
While I don't condone the execution of anyone, even crooked cops, I can understand how the less enlightened may believe in the righteousness of such an action.
Blues,
Cliff
I agree that some people may have been affected and therefore feel that action is justified. I have been a victim of a dirty cop that killed 2 people, lost his job and is now working as a detention officer in a diff county, probably will be a cop one day.
It really is the system for advocating cops defend each other even after being dirty. And in my case, he is now in teh system again after the state licensing agency pussed out and wouldn't pull his certificate. Hate the cops, but it really is the game more than the player.
rwieder 0
QuoteThe real problem is with the court, BTW, they let the dirties get away with murder and this makes all cops look bad. The purpose/desgn of the establishment is to draw a line between cops and citizens; this may have been an ugly byproduct of that problem.
Your going way out on a ledge making this statement because your making an assumation on a topic of which you know nothing about and you didn't provide any statisical data to back up your mouth either.
The long and the short of it is whomever commited this heinous and hateful crime of 1st. degree capitol murder is a COWARD. This perp will be dealt with, if they don't take their own life first to keep from facing "Making a lot of new friends in prison" These 3 fine men & 1 female were someone's best friend, brother, father, son, daughter, wife, mother, husband...and they were murdered in cold blood, I hope the perp burns in hell.
Next time you need the help of a civil servant, think about what you've just said.
-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
Lucky... 0
QuoteYour going way out on a ledge making this statement because your making an assumation on a topic of which you know nothing about and you didn't provide any statisical data to back up your mouth either.
There are no stats available to support the theory that cops are coddled. Of course I can provide arrest and bond details on many cases that are so weak any reasonable person could see the difference between that and the way regular people are dealt with.
As for knowing what I'm talkign abiut, I have a BS in justice and have followed/studied the law since 96. It appears it is you who doesn't have a clue as to what they speak.
QuoteThe long and the short of it is whomever commited this heinous and hateful crime of 1st. degree capitol murder is a COWARD.
But they didn't commit murder at the capitol, it was a coffee shop. And to say 1st degree capial murder is just emotional semantics, anymore most 1st degree murders are tried as capital murder cases, but you and your vast knowledge knew that.
QuoteThis perp will be dealt with, if they don't take their own life first to keep from facing "Making a lot of new friends in prison" These fine men were someone's best friend, brother, father, son, husband...and they were murdered in cold blood, I hope the perp burns in hell.
No doubt, there is no place in society for this/these guy(s).
QuoteNext time you need the help of a civil servant, think about what you've just said.
Oh, what did I say? That the court allow and advocate the dirty cops to be so. How is that defamatory to all cops? How is it the bad cops should be able to make the good cops look bad, as I stated? You pretend that I defamed all cops when what I said was that of the bad ones, the courts pave teh way for them, which leads to hard feelings between all cops and citizens.
rwieder 0
QuoteI have a BS in justice and have followed/studied the law since 96.
Really? Oh, wow, sorry. That changes everything.
Four people are dead by a direct act of violence and you say that it was because cops are dirty? Its really too bad you don't have a chance to talk to their families and tell them that you know this in your expert opinion because you have an undergrad in "justice."
So, your obvious expert opinion aside, to what source would you care to cite to show your opinion?
An aside to all of this, after all the trolling you have done here in SC, its nice to finally know where your expert opinion comes from. I wish you were here with me, I'm honest-to-god actually laughing.
--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."
Lucky... 0
QuoteReally? Oh, wow, sorry. That changes everything.
My knowledge of the legal system dwarfs yours. I just spent 4 months watching a multi-murder trial that lasted 7+ months, where the def got 6 death sentences and flipped off my GF's brother. I watch all the procedure, the strategy, etc. Again, my knowledge of the legal sys dwarfs yours.
QuoteFour people are dead by a direct act of violence and you say that it was because cops are dirty?
That's your ill-interpretation, nit my words or my intent.
QuoteIts really too bad you don't have a chance to talk to their families and tell them that you know this in your expert opinion because you have an undergrad in "justice."
Why would I want to do that?
QuoteSo, your obvious expert opinion aside, to what source would you care to cite to show your opinion?
Which opinion? The one where cops get a waaaay easy break in the courts when they commit crimes or are suspected/charged?
QuoteAn aside to all of this, after all the trolling you have done here in SC, its nice to finally know where your expert opinion comes from. I wish you were here with me, I'm honest-to-god actually laughing.
I'd rather not be there with you, I get enough of your empty posts here.
QuoteMy knowledge of the legal system dwarfs yours.
QuoteI watch all the procedure, the strategy, etc. Again, my knowledge of the legal sys dwarfs yours.
Obviously. You have a CJ undergrad degree and apparently watched a trial! Thank you for giving me an education on the real workings of the legal system. I had never known how the legal system worked until this moment. What is your daily rate for teaching this superior knowledge? Although, I'm sure I couldn't afford it, since I don't have a BS in CJ.
--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."
rwieder 0
Hey Dick: Dave's too nice a guy to tell you exactly what you are, but i'm not. Dick, your a Dick! 
Get it?? 
J/K!! 
-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
Lucky... 0
QuoteObviously. You have a CJ undergrad degree and apparently watched a trial!
Actually my school ddin't offer criminal justice, justice studies, so your assumption is again errant.
I was a process server for 9 years, BS Jus, taking some paralegal classes now, watched trials since 96-97 until today, watched a diff one last week, pro per'd a case against 3 lawyers, a realtor, a broker and 2 LLC's. I won that one in arbtration and collected too.
You can try to minimize my experience/knowledge, but that is what I expect from you.
QuoteWhat is your daily rate for teaching this superior knowledge?
Considering you would need to be taken from the JUS 101 level, don't waste your time.
Lucky... 0
QuoteHey Dick: Dave's too nice a guy to tell you exactly what you are, but i'm not. Dick, your a Dick!
Get it??
And you think PA's are the way to go? You think the J/K makes it not a PA?
QuoteActually my school ddin't offer criminal justice, justice studies, so your assumption is again errant.
I was a process server for 9 years, BS Jus, taking some paralegal classes now, watched trials since 96-97 until today, watched a diff one last week, pro per'd a case against 3 lawyers, a realtor, a broker and 2 LLC's. I won that one in arbtration and collected too.
So you didn't even get a CJ degree? You took some para-legal classes and you watch trials and you won something in arbitration? Wow. Then again with out a CJ degree, I guess you're not the level of expert you were implying. I guess I'll be looking for a different coach to help out my understanding of the legal system.
--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."
rwieder 0
QuoteAnd you think PA's are the way to go?
It wasn't a P.A. If i intended to P.A. you, you'd know it.
QuoteYou think the J/K makes it not a PA?
Yes, that's what I think. Let's just say it was "Politically Correct" I went to your profile, and you admit your a Dick, fuggat about it!!!!
Why don't you just make an objection to the sitting judge and get it over with. I'll just get a $50.00 fine for contempt of court. Har Har Har!! -Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
Lucky... 0
QuoteQuoteAnd you think PA's are the way to go?
It wasn't a P.A. If i intended to P.A. you, you'd know it.QuoteYou think the J/K makes it not a PA?
Yes, that's what I think. Let's just say it was "Politically Correct" I went to your profile, and you admit your a Dick, fuggat about it!!!!
Yea, that's not a PA either.
rwieder 0
Ah C'mon Dick, where's your sense of humour? Lighten up pal!! After all i should be no match for you, with all of your high dollar education and all. Right??
For real, chill out!! Everybody here just loves you to death!! You gotta quit being all sensitive and stuff. Now let's get this thread back on topic!!
For real, chill out!! Everybody here just loves you to death!! You gotta quit being all sensitive and stuff. Now let's get this thread back on topic!!
-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
QuoteAfter all i should be no match for you, with all of your high dollar education and all.
Hell in another thread he was an aviation expert. Everything from a Cessna to the B-2 and every airliner in between. He's a jack of all trades!
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
Lucky... 0
QuoteQuoteAfter all i should be no match for you, with all of your high dollar education and all.
Hell in another thread he was an aviation expert. Everything from a Cessna to the B-2 and every airliner in between. He's a jack of all trades!
Love your paraphrasations, I would consider myself an acft sheetmetal expert. I never considerd myself a legal expert, just someone very knowledgeable. I've never worked teh B-2 or claimed to have, perhaps you're not reading very carefully.
rwieder 0
QuoteHell in another thread he was an aviation expert. Everything from a Cessna to the B-2 and every airliner in between. He's a jack of all trades!
Yeah "Jack of all trades, and master of none!" I think he's a really fun guy, don't you??!!??
-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"
With that department or nationally over the last 100 years?
From what I'm getting from you, is that you believe that mentally sound persons are starting an armed revolution because of the actions of less than 1% of law enforcement over the past 100 years?
Is Elvis leading the revolt or is it Michael Jackson's nose?
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