How do you feel?

[rehmwa 2]

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The guy's wrong, and the HOA is stupid. They could have turned this into a major score if they'd put a big flagpole up in a park, or an entrance to the HOA or something, and put him in charge of it.

exactly,

but it's not over - and now, with all the publicity, we'll see how the HOA responds, let's hope they have supercool ideas like yours here

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[DanG 1]

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The guy's wrong, and the HOA is stupid. They could have turned this into a major score if they'd put a big flagpole up in a park, or an entrance to the HOA or something, and put him in charge of it.

Wendy P.

I am VERY disappointed in you. Do you know where you are? This is Speakers' Corner for God's sake. This even headed, well thought out nonsense will not be tolerated.

- Dan G

[usedtajump 1]

The guy's 90 years old and earned it for god's sake. Unless he's bugling "Reveille" at raising and "To The Colors" at lowering, you'd think the HOA could look the other way for a year or two then he'd most likely be gone and they wouldn't look like such uncaring assholes.

I like Wendy's idea as a good compromise.

The older I get the less I care who I piss off.

[DSE 5]

Your solution makes a lot of sense.

There is a certain irony in your sigline (remove "safety") and this particular discussion.

[billvon 3,068]

>You'll make a good angry old retiree.

"Hey, you kids! Get away from that flagpole!"

[JohnRich 4]

Fuck the HOA. Leave the flag up. Let them fine the vet and attach a lien to his home. Then everybody's happy.

[Andy9o8 2]

This is a poster-child example of why I've always hated homeowners' associations.

[BIGUN 1,402]

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The guy's wrong, and the HOA is stupid. They could have turned this into a major score if they'd put a big flagpole up in a park, or an entrance to the HOA or something, and put him in charge of it.

There you go again; bringing logic to an emotionally charged thread.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[rhaig 0]

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Well...he chose to live in an area with a homeowners association. Don't you agree to follow those rules when you buy?

that was my first take on it.

I live in an HOA with restrictions. The restrictions like the one he's "violating" are subjectively applied. From the article, he's going against their aesthetic guidelines. What this means to me (as someone who's gotten a letter about the "healthful and pleasing state of my landscaping") is that someone doesn't like his flagpole and decided it wasn't aesthetically pleasing.

Further in the article he says, "I don't have any qualms with [the board's] authority, but the thing about it is that I cannot get enough conversation out of them where we can try to work out a solution". This is also the norm (in my experience) with HOA boards. They write letters quoting sections of the agreement rather that discussing with their neighbors the issue at hand.

He wants to put up a flagpole to fly a flag. He thinks that is aesthetically pleasing. Someone else does not.

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Rob

[rhaig 0]

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Would you feel the same way if he painted his house to look like giant flag and spray painted his lawn?


My point is the intent of an association is simple. If you don't agree don't buy there.

blah blah blah...

the 9 person board needs to be addressed face to face and vote on the issue. However he can't get any conversation from them (according to the article) to work out the issue.

If he wanted to spraypaint his lawn, and that got complained about, I'd expect the board to have to end up voting on it too.

Have you ever been subject to HOA restrictions? Do you know the process typically in place? Someone takes complaints, and drops a letter in the mail. If the "situation isn't rectified" they threaten fines and legal action. All typically based on one complaint. It sounds from the article that he trying to get the board to discuss the issue with him to resolve it. Also sounds like the board is just dropping threatening letters on him.

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Rob

[rhaig 0]

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As you should think about what rules you agree to follow.




And perhaps you should re-read this. The objection is NOT to the flag.

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"I don't have any qualms with [the board's] authority, but the thing about it is that I cannot get enough conversation out of them where we can try to work out a solution," Barfoot said.

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Rob

[rhaig 0]

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Fuck the HOA. Leave the flag up. Let them fine the vet and attach a lien to his home. Then everybody's happy.

my HOA threatened to fine me over brown grass last august in drought conditions. I told them to fine me, I wouldn't pay it, and they could lein the house. I didn't care. Or they could wait til October and I'd fix it. (they waited)

The difference is that I was able to address my HOA to come to a solution on the matter. They didn't just drop threatening letters on me.

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Rob

[The_Don 0]

I can't believe it! Good wins!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579773,00.html?test=latestnews

I am NOT being loud.
I'm being enthusiastic!

[turtlespeed 226]

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I can't believe it! Good wins!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579773,00.html?test=latestnews

Here Here!

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[usedtajump 1]

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The guy's 90 years old and earned it for god's sake. Unless he's bugling "Reveille" at raising and "To The Colors" at lowering, you'd think the HOA could look the other way for a year or two then he'd most likely be gone and they wouldn't look like such uncaring assholes.

I like Wendy's idea as a good compromise.

Now that he can keep the flagpole, I hope he lives 20 more years just to be a pain in the HOA's ass.

The older I get the less I care who I piss off.