Republican version of health care

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It is not which sheep some one is,
is what sheep I am replying too

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Republicans as individuals = voters with varying degrees of beliefs

Republican Party = GOP / RNC

Republican ideology = Doctrine that rigidly states how Republicans within the ranks will behave / what they will believe.

So I was refering to the party structure and the ideology system, not anyone in particular.

So, according to another one of your made-for-convenience definitions, a political party can have a membership that is completely different from what their doctrine and ideology dictate.
Nice try, but that dog don't hunt.
Spin again.

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How is that structure and ideology different from the other parties?

That, meaning the Reoublican structure? If so, they are for the rich and against benefits to teh poor under the guise that poor people will become rich, hence we will keep the tax structure low and welfare scant.

Whereas the Dems are for the well-being for all.

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Isn't a structure and ideology what defines a political party?

Yep, but the individual members might and often do have differring ideologies. Saying the Republican ideology is Nazi isn't the same as saying every member shares all those ideologies. Generally it comes down to which party you're closer to rather than which do I completely identify with. If that were the case, few people would vote, as they wouldn't be carbon-copy Repubs, Dems, etc.

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Should parties not care what their member's views are, and just run anyone who they can think can get their party in control? (Yes, I'm aware that's pretty much what we have now).

Taking teh RNC, I think they are so out of touch that they don't care what the electorate wants, which is why they lost so many in the last 2 elections. Not to mention young and minority voters were awoken by the ever increasing grotesque nature of the R's.

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It is not which sheep some one is,
is what sheep I am replying too

Precisely what I was thinking

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushsheep.htm

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That, meaning the Reoublican structure? If so, they are for the rich and against benefits to teh poor under the guise that poor people will become rich, hence we will keep the tax structure low and welfare scant.

Prove it. Actual facts. You know what those are, right? Something from the RNC saying that instead of your usual bloviations.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Republicans as individuals = voters with varying degrees of beliefs

Republican Party = GOP / RNC

Republican ideology = Doctrine that rigidly states how Republicans within the ranks will behave / what they will believe.

So I was refering to the party structure and the ideology system, not anyone in particular.

So, according to another one of your made-for-convenience definitions, a political party can have a membership that is completely different from what their doctrine and ideology dictate.
Nice try, but that dog don't hunt.
Spin again.

Who said completely? That is your made for convenience interpretation. If youi take the GOP/RNC, you would have some carbon-copy Nazis, some partial, some welfare moralists who align with the right for moral reasons, some fiscals who don't care about the moral right, etc. So when people vote, they don't look for which party they align with 100%, they look for the closest party to them, with their collective beliefs. Sometimes you luck out and the party you like never goes against you, rarely tho.

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That, meaning the Reoublican structure? If so, they are for the rich and against benefits to teh poor under the guise that poor people will become rich, hence we will keep the tax structure low and welfare scant.

Prove it. Actual facts. You know what those are, right? Something from the RNC saying that instead of your usual bloviations.

I'm not gonna have the affidavit from god as you want, but I can make a strong inferrential case.

-- http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-07-26-heating-bill_N.htm Republicans on Saturday blocked the Senate from considering a bill next week that would nearly double federal aid to help the poor pay heating and air-conditioning bills.


-- Katrina late/non-response

-- Constantly voting against min wage increases

-- Shooting doen HC pub option whenever possible

-- http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE50D67A20090116 "That spirit of bipartisan partnership for low-income children appears to be disappearing before our very eyes. It's being replaced with partisan exploitation" said Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican on the usually collegial Finance Committee.

He called it "damn disgusting."


Crying that the bill was partisan dem rather than, "lets get the kids HC"...talk about disgusting sociopaths.

-- Senate Passes Health Insurance Bill for Children http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/29/AR2009012900325.html

Lawmakers voted 66 to 32, largely along party lines, to renew the joint state-federal program and spend an additional $32.8 billion to expand coverage to 4 million more children. The expansion would be paid for by raising the cigarette tax from 39 cents a pack to $1.

And the Nazi Party largely voted it down. Tisk tisk.

Mike, I could go on, but you still want that affidavit from god. Your idea of running poor people into the shitter to teach them character or whatever lovely reason you have to deny poor peoiple benefits is just delightful.

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Why do all threads seem to spin out of control and go down hill when you start posting? This thread was a shot a the right from the very beginning but it went from a healthcare discussion to you posting about Nazis and the poor hating RNC. I feel like it's become common for people to see these wild tangents and stop reading the thread all together. Is it really that difficult to have a normal discussion and stay on point?

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How are any of your examples going to 'make poor people rich', Lucky?

That was your claim. Still haven't proved it.

And, as usual...the only person mentioning an 'affadavit from God' is YOU. Your little misdirect didn't work the first time you tried it, and it still doesn't - time to hang that one up.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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And Reagan was the head Nazi, considering he named all kinds of Hollywood actors as Communists and they were basically blackballed or worse from Hollywood after that. He was a real Nazi fucking fascist pig.

I liked Reagan. It's nice to see he still has enough influence when dead to cause such anxiety in his detractors.

And you bitch about deficit spending / debt? Aren't you kinda steping on your own dick by hating debt and liking Reagan? Makes no sense.

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And you like Obama but have you noticed his spending.........But you bitch about republican spending.....once again pot meet kettle... You should at least read what you type.

Nothing opens like a Deere!

You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!

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Republicans as individuals = voters with varying degrees of beliefs

Republican Party = GOP / RNC

Republican ideology = Doctrine that rigidly states how Republicans within the ranks will behave / what they will believe.

So I was refering to the party structure and the ideology system, not anyone in particular.

So, according to another one of your made-for-convenience definitions, a political party can have a membership that is completely different from what their doctrine and ideology dictate.
Nice try, but that dog don't hunt.
Spin again.

Who said completely? That is your made for convenience interpretation. If youi take the GOP/RNC, you would have some carbon-copy Nazis, some partial, some welfare moralists who align with the right for moral reasons, some fiscals who don't care about the moral right, etc. So when people vote, they don't look for which party they align with 100%, they look for the closest party to them, with their collective beliefs. Sometimes you luck out and the party you like never goes against you, rarely tho.

So now we get to the stage of the thread where you start backpedaling away from what you posted and start saying "not always". In a few more posts it will be "sometimes" and then it will end up as "well, it could be, on rare occasions".
Face it. You called Republicans "Nazis" and now you're trying to back out of it. Too bad your accusation is part of the thread for all to see.
I don't think you could tell a Nazi from a Socialist from a Communist from a Democrat from a Republican.

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Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
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I don't think you could tell a Nazi from a Socialist from a Communist from a Democrat from a Republican.

THIS guy is a Nazi and a Republican. He is definitely not a communist nor a democrat.

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I don't think you could tell a Nazi from a Socialist from a Communist from a Democrat from a Republican.

THIS guy is a Nazi and a Republican. He is definitely not a communist nor a democrat.

He should be a good counter to Kleagle Byrd, then.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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