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Umm, no. You confuse "law abiding" with "not having been convicted". Not the same thing AT ALL.

I wasn't ticketed for speeding today. Doesn't mean I obeyed the speed limit.



Then people should not be allowed to drive cars.
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Umm, no. You confuse "law abiding" with "not having been convicted". Not the same thing AT ALL.



Please read this section again: I know you like to think certain people are guilty till you say otherwise, but the legal system says otherwise and the background check confirms that.



Nope, I didn't use the word "guilty", you did.

Law abiding is a statement of fact.

Guilty is a statement of finding by the judicial system.

Different things, as you recognized YOURSELF in this post about OJ Simpson:

and this one. You were quite happy to conclude that OJ was a murderer despite no guilty verdict having been recorded.

Just because you haven't been caught doesn't mean you are law abiding.
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Umm, no. You confuse "law abiding" with "not having been convicted". Not the same thing AT ALL.



Please read this section again: I know you like to think certain people are guilty till you say otherwise, but the legal system says otherwise and the background check confirms that.



If someone has been arrested and subsequently acquitted for a capital felony, e.g., first degree murder, can they get a CCW permit in your state? What about most other states?
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Umm, no. You confuse "law abiding" with "not having been convicted". Not the same thing AT ALL.



Please read this section again: I know you like to think certain people are guilty till you say otherwise, but the legal system says otherwise and the background check confirms that.



If someone has been arrested and subsequently acquitted for a capital felony, e.g., first degree murder, can they get a CCW permit in your state? What about most other states?



IIRC, they have to request that from ATF - you can imagine how many exemptions they've passed.
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If someone has been arrested and subsequently acquitted for a capital felony, e.g., first degree murder, can they get a CCW permit in your state? What about most other states?



Yes. You can even have been found guilty and get your rights restored.

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/firearms/felony_conviction.html

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I've heard (but haven't verified) that a felony arrest, even without a conviction, can preclude one from obtaining a CCW.



A felony arrest can suspend your right till the issue has been resolved. But once found not guilty you can get a CWP... It will involve some more paperwork.

An adjudication of guilt withheld, or a suspended sentence on any felony does automatically stop you. After three years (currently there is a bill in the FL house that is being proposed to make it 5 years) you can normally get a CWP in FL.
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Just because you haven't been caught doesn't mean you are law abiding.



But it does mean you can't be assumed guilty... No matter what Kallend says.


Fact is she was "law abiding" as far as anyone knows and will remain "law abiding" till proven guilty by a jury.

In your world you may want to do otherwise, but here in the US things work differently.
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Then people should not be allowed to drive cars.



90% of them for sure. First get rid of those that drive slowly in the left lane.



If everyone were armed then I think we'd find fewer people willing to cut people off in traffic. The problem here is that police are always there AFTER the incident but a gun can be there DURING the incident.
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Just because you haven't been caught doesn't mean you are law abiding.



But it does mean you can't be assumed guilty... No matter what Kallend says.


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Straw man. Try responding to what I actually wrote.

And try to recall what YOU wrote about OJ (links HERE)

That's called hypocrisy, Ron.
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Straw man.



You would know...since it seems to be your favorite tactic.

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That's called hypocrisy, Ron.



No, that is called an opinion.

Also, you do remember he was found guilty in the civil trial right?
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Straw man.



You would know...since it seems to be your favorite tactic.

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That's called hypocrisy, Ron.



No, that is called an opinion.

Also, you do remember he was found guilty in the civil trial right?



Wrong. Civil trials don't determine guilt. Where did you learn civics?


Unfortunately for you, our posts in this thread are still available for all to read. As anyone can see, I wrote nothing of judicially determined guilt or innocence, despite your straw man attempt to claim that I did.
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If everyone were armed then I think we'd find fewer people willing to cut people off in traffic.



I've always wanted a .50 cal machine gun visibly mounted on the hood of my car. Let's see how many pickup trucks fuck with me then.


i'd prefer the stealth-type missiles james bond style - and the aston martin to go with it! B|
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Unfortunately for you, our posts in this thread are still available for all to read.



As are yours. Your posting history is quite clear.... you make opinions, imply information... and when proven to be full of crap you start throwing strawmen.

Again, your history is there for all to see.
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Tell us, Ron and kelp:

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?

Here's one opinion from a gun enthusiast.

Another

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You'll find the NRA's position if you scroll through this one.

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Yep.... That confirms she is a law abiding citizen. I know you like to think certain people are guilty till you say otherwise, but the legal system says otherwise and the background check confirms that.



Umm, no. You confuse "law abiding" with "not having been convicted". Not the same thing AT ALL.

I wasn't ticketed for speeding today. Doesn't mean I obeyed the speed limit.




A founding principle of our nation is that you're presumed innocent until proven guilty, by a jury of your peers.


Changed your tune since you wrote:

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2687069;search_string=straw%20purchase;#2687069

and

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2684121;search_string=straw%20purchase;#2684121

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Tell us, Ron and kelp:

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?



You mean like Boxer? Or was it Feinstein?
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Tell us, Ron and kelp:

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?



You mean like Boxer? Or was it Feinstein?



Either or both, you choose. Is a straw purchaser a "law abiding citizen"?
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Tell us, Ron and kelp:

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?



You mean like Boxer? Or was it Feinstein?



Either or both, you choose. Is a straw purchaser a "law abiding citizen"?



When you perfect your future crime machine, let the rest of us know - until then, this is as useless a point as your whining about the DC crime stats.
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Tell us, Ron and kelp:

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?



You mean like Boxer? Or was it Feinstein?



Either or both, you choose. Is a straw purchaser a "law abiding citizen"?



When you perfect your future crime machine, let the rest of us know - until then, this is as useless a point as your whining about the DC crime stats.



Why avoid the question? It's pretty simple. Even YOU have pontificated on straw purchases in the past.
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Tell us, Ron and kelp:

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?



You mean like Boxer? Or was it Feinstein?



Either or both, you choose. Is a straw purchaser a "law abiding citizen"?



When you perfect your future crime machine, let the rest of us know - until then, this is as useless a point as your whining about the DC crime stats.



Why avoid the question? It's pretty simple. Even YOU have pontificated on straw purchases in the past.



Because it's your usual lame argument - unless, of course, you have proof that the women who originally bought it did so as a straw purchase.
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Tell us, Ron and kelp:

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?



You mean like Boxer? Or was it Feinstein?



Either or both, you choose. Is a straw purchaser a "law abiding citizen"?



When you perfect your future crime machine, let the rest of us know - until then, this is as useless a point as your whining about the DC crime stats.



Why avoid the question? It's pretty simple. Even YOU have pontificated on straw purchases in the past.



Because it's your usual lame argument - unless, of course, you have proof that the women who originally bought it did so as a straw purchase.



It's not an argument, it's a question. Please try to keep up.

Would you classify someone who can pass the background check and who makes a straw purchase of a gun as "law abiding"?

Previous posts by warpedskydiver and kelpdiver among others have indicated that they are NOT law abiding. Ron thinks they are.

Are you afraid of answering for some reason?
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Are you afraid of answering for some reason?



Your question has been answered before, several times, by all of us. Why are you asking it THIS time?

Either you have proof that the woman made a straw purchase, or you're pulling your usual misdirect bullshit - which is it?
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