grimmie 186 #1 December 11, 2009 Ken Biros was finally excecuted after 18 years on death row. He hacked up and ate the body parts of a 22 year old girl. They found him with part of her liver in his car trunk and her blood on him. It was a big ordeal because the state used a one drug cocktail to kill him instead of the three drug method. This case really got me thinking about our death penalty and how long it takes to be carried out. He admitted doing it and it still went on for years. Do we really need the death penalty? Do states really want to carry it out? Mr. Biros was a pretty nerdy and quiet guy in high school. He was in the band and the chess club if I remember right. He was 2 years ahead of me at the same small Ohio high school. So what do you guys think? Do states really still want to carry out the death penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 854 #2 December 11, 2009 Apparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 December 11, 2009 QuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #5 December 11, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Apparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? Look. The USofA is in fine society - Botswana, Iran, Uganda and many more - still are sure that death penalty is mandatory in special cases. So why to doubt that? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? I will believe in the Easter bunny before I believe the court system is reliable enough to make life and death decisions."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? I will believe in the Easter bunny before I believe the court system is reliable enough to make life and death decisions. Now you're focusing on the bigger picture. The question was simpler - why would people support the death penalty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? Are you suggesting that victims (or next of kin) be given the option to beat the convicted criminal to death? I suspect many would take it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #9 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? That's easy. Because society won't let us do it ourselves.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #10 December 11, 2009 Quote When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? 1. Because humans are not infallible. People make mistakes. 2. I don't like the idea of government having the authority to kill. 3. It's much, much cheaper to imprison someone for life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #11 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? When is the last time you were forced to inject a life ending drug into someone? Didnt think so ..... get off your high horse!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #12 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuote When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? 1. Because humans are not infallible. People make mistakes. 2. I don't like the idea of government having the authority to kill. 3. It's much, much cheaper to imprison someone for life. Here in California we have a case that has gone on forever. Back in the early eighties a guy named kevin Cooper hacked up a family in Chino Hills. He has just finally exhausted his last ditch efforts at the Supreme Court level. Without getting into it is right or wrong to kill a convict, do you guys think your home states drag their feet on death penalty cases? And justinb138, three good points. IMHO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuote When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? 1. Because humans are not infallible. People make mistakes. 2. I don't like the idea of government having the authority to kill. 3. It's much, much cheaper to imprison someone for life. I hope in #1, you're referring to juries, not criminals. As for #3, it doesn't have to be so, though it may increase the concerns of #1. Also, I wonder if the math is still true, given the rising costs of health care and prisons, and mandates that prisoners get HC that many Americans would do anything short of kill for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? When is the last time you were forced to inject a life ending drug into someone? Didnt think so ..... get off your high horse! Hey I would hate to try to usurp you TEXICANS with your high horses.. You should have a state lottery so you could get to shoot them yourselves since " THEY NEED KILLIN" why send em off with drugs... let your blood lust run its all too natrual course. you should be able to shoot em.. its the TEXICAN thing to do. Personally I don't want to be responsible in ANY way for your murdering any other human being no matter how reprehensible he is... all you are doing by having the government do it for you is trying to keep it off your conscience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #15 December 11, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? When is the last time you were forced to inject a life ending drug into someone? Didnt think so ..... get off your high horse! Hey I would hate to try to usurp you TEXICANS with your high horses.. You should have a state lottery so you could get to shoot them yourselves since " THEY NEED KILLIN" why send em off with drugs... let your blood lust run its all too natrual course. you should be able to shoot em.. its the TEXICAN thing to do. Personally I don't want to be responsible in ANY way for your murdering any other human being no matter how reprehensible he is... all you are doing by having the government do it for you is trying to keep it off your conscience. Can you please answer my question yank?Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #16 December 11, 2009 Quote Quote Quote When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? 1. Because humans are not infallible. People make mistakes. 2. I don't like the idea of government having the authority to kill. 3. It's much, much cheaper to imprison someone for life. I hope in #1, you're referring to juries, not criminals. As for #3, it doesn't have to be so, though it may increase the concerns of #1. Also, I wonder if the math is still true, given the rising costs of health care and prisons, and mandates that prisoners get HC that many Americans would do anything short of kill for. #1. Yes, referring to juries, witnesses, police officers, etc.. #3. I'm not sure of the numbers, but I'm assuming that lawyers are still much more expensive than all of the above combined. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjulia 2 #17 December 12, 2009 Grimmie - I have friends in OH who served on capital punishment cases and they are still haunted by participating. They felt pressured to make their votes mean death. I have also arranged for Sr. Helen Prejean as a panel guest at a university for which I served as Exec. Asst. to the President. It was nearly impossible for me to find anyone, prosecutor, family member of a murdered innocent or other capital punishment advocate to take to the table with Helen. I don't believe the states do want to carry it out. I am proud to be a consistent ethic of life person. Life is precious. Respect it. Julia, A16070 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 December 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteApparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? When is the last time you were forced to inject a life ending drug into someone? Didnt think so ..... get off your high horse! Hey I would hate to try to usurp you TEXICANS with your high horses.. You should have a state lottery so you could get to shoot them yourselves since " THEY NEED KILLIN" why send em off with drugs... let your blood lust run its all too natrual course. you should be able to shoot em.. its the TEXICAN thing to do. Personally I don't want to be responsible in ANY way for your murdering any other human being no matter how reprehensible he is... all you are doing by having the government do it for you is trying to keep it off your conscience. Can you please answer my question yank? Come on polish up that gun there pardner... or git a rope... you are in the most blood thirsty state after all.... come on yall got lots that just need killin... http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cp.htm In 2008, 37 persons in 9 states were executed — 18 in Texas; 4 in Virginia; 3 each in Georgia and South Carolina; 2 each in Florida, Mississippi, Ohio, and Oklahoma, and 1 in Kentucky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #19 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Apparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? When is the last time you were forced to inject a life ending drug into someone? Didnt think so ..... get off your high horse! Hey I would hate to try to usurp you TEXICANS with your high horses.. You should have a state lottery so you could get to shoot them yourselves since " THEY NEED KILLIN" why send em off with drugs... let your blood lust run its all too natrual course. you should be able to shoot em.. its the TEXICAN thing to do. Personally I don't want to be responsible in ANY way for your murdering any other human being no matter how reprehensible he is... all you are doing by having the government do it for you is trying to keep it off your conscience. Can you please answer my question yank? Come on polish up that gun there pardner... or git a rope... you are in the most blood thirsty state after all.... come on yall got lots that just need killin... http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cp.htm In 2008, 37 persons in 9 states were executed — 18 in Texas; 4 in Virginia; 3 each in Georgia and South Carolina; 2 each in Florida, Mississippi, Ohio, and Oklahoma, and 1 in Kentucky. Glad you answered my question! You sure are very informative. Yes Texas is working on puttin in a fast lane for the DP. Next is the HOV lane You lib's can keep all of the jackasses alive you want, we dont need them.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Apparently we still support it as a society. I don't understand why. There's nothing complicated about it. When one person ends the life of other(s), why should that person get to continue to live? Why should YOU force SOCIETY ( ie all of the rest of us) to do your killing for you? When is the last time you were forced to inject a life ending drug into someone? Didnt think so ..... get off your high horse! Hey I would hate to try to usurp you TEXICANS with your high horses.. You should have a state lottery so you could get to shoot them yourselves since " THEY NEED KILLIN" why send em off with drugs... let your blood lust run its all too natrual course. you should be able to shoot em.. its the TEXICAN thing to do. Personally I don't want to be responsible in ANY way for your murdering any other human being no matter how reprehensible he is... all you are doing by having the government do it for you is trying to keep it off your conscience. Can you please answer my question yank? Come on polish up that gun there pardner... or git a rope... you are in the most blood thirsty state after all.... come on yall got lots that just need killin... http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cp.htm In 2008, 37 persons in 9 states were executed — 18 in Texas; 4 in Virginia; 3 each in Georgia and South Carolina; 2 each in Florida, Mississippi, Ohio, and Oklahoma, and 1 in Kentucky. Glad you answered my question! You sure are very informative. Yes Texas is working on puttin in a fast lane for the DP. Next is the HOV lane You lib's can keep all of the jackasses alive you want, we dont need them. Yup there pardner.. fast trackin.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca4OPKyZ1FU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #21 December 12, 2009 At least she has good taste ......unlike some.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 December 12, 2009 Quote At least she has good taste ......unlike some. She is from a blue state where tasting is allowed and welcomed.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #23 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote At least she has good taste ......unlike some. She is from a blue state where tasting is allowed and welcomed.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm so glad your good at entertaining yourself, but do you ever answer questions? Or do you just hide from the truth?Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote At least she has good taste ......unlike some. She is from a blue state where tasting is allowed and welcomed.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm so glad your good at entertaining yourself, but do you ever answer questions? Or do you just hide from the truth? Pisses ya off dont it pardner.......Dont worry I am not laughing with yall .. I am laughin at yall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #25 December 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote At least she has good taste ......unlike some. She is from a blue state where tasting is allowed and welcomed.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm so glad your good at entertaining yourself, but do you ever answer questions? Or do you just hide from the truth? Pisses ya off dont it pardner.......Dont worry I am not laughing with yall .. I am laughin at yall. You aint pissing me offBut you sure make people question your BS when you wont answer simple questions.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
