champu 1 #1 January 12, 2010 "Pseudo-Science" isn't strong enough of a pejorative to describe this story entitled: Norway Time Hole “Leak” Plunges Northern Hemisphere Into Chaos QuoteBut to the most critical aspect of these events it surely lies with the Western World’s continued arrogance in regards to experimenting on both our Planets natural species and human beings, and though who may think that they are ‘gods’, are continuing to give evidence that they are acting more like devils. A month ago the Russians apparently have a failed SLBM test that results in a spectacular light show in Norway. Now we get an (admittedly, user-contributed) article in Pakistan about how it was a US experiment that has caused an incredibly harsh winter for the entire northern hemisphere. /edit to clarify for those who don't click the link that the article is on a Pakistani website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 January 12, 2010 Quote/edit to clarify for those who don't click the link that the article is on a Pakistani website. I wonder if you go to the site.. if you are put on a watch list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #3 January 12, 2010 i voted it will be dismissed, as i know the arrogance of the US population about so called 'conspiracy theories'. haarp is a very stupid idea, just like nuclear weapons are a very stupid idea. but try to tell that the the generals!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #4 January 12, 2010 I thought Obama bowing to the world was supposed to fix this. I guess no mater what the rest of the world will continue to make shit up on how America is the root evil to everything."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 January 12, 2010 Seems like a way to fix AWG! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #6 January 12, 2010 Quote"Pseudo-Science" isn't strong enough of a pejorative to describe this story entitled: Norway Time Hole “Leak” Plunges Northern Hemisphere Into Chaos QuoteBut to the most critical aspect of these events it surely lies with the Western World’s continued arrogance in regards to experimenting on both our Planets natural species and human beings, and though who may think that they are ‘gods’, are continuing to give evidence that they are acting more like devils. A month ago the Russians apparently have a failed SLBM test that results in a spectacular light show in Norway. Now we get an (admittedly, user-contributed) article in Pakistan about how it was a US experiment that has caused an incredibly harsh winter for the entire northern hemisphere. /edit to clarify for those who don't click the link that the article is on a Pakistani website. Well, we all know a butterfly flapping its wings causes hurricanes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #7 January 12, 2010 Quote haarp is a very stupid idea, Really? I know very little about HAARP, I'd appreciate it if you could explain the physics of the project to me, pointing out which parts of it are bad and why. ThanksDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #8 January 12, 2010 QuoteWell, we all know a butterfly flapping its wings causes hurricanes. Why haven't we declared war on butterflies yet! What if terrorist are able to harness the power of butterfly wings and release said power on the U.S. unleashing killer hurricanes on our shores? Our government needs to do everything possible to ensure our future and if that means killing every butterfly on the planet then that is what needs to be done. We need to deploy troops to wherever butterflies may be. Covert operations, tactical airstrikes, shock and awe! Whatever it takes! Damn butterflies, just who do they think their messing with!"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #9 January 12, 2010 Those who hate the US will always find something to use. Most of them are retarded. The very few that are legit either get lost in the noise or are used by the retards to justify crap like this. South Park has a way of putting a lot of truth in their satire."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #10 January 12, 2010 QuoteReally? I know very little about HAARP, I'd appreciate it if you could explain the physics of the project to me, pointing out which parts of it are bad and why. I believe fucking with nature is never a good thing, I am no physicist, but understand our planet is very sensitive and we humans have continued to screw the joint since we discovered fire. HAARP is a US military project that is said to be a reasearch program learning about our ionsphere, but it is a little like Japans whale research program, send a harpoon into it and see what happens... HAARP FAQ Wikis version of what HAARP is! Some blame the current absurdly cold winter in the north on HAARP, saying it basicly punched a hole in our atmosphere. it doesn't usually snow in florida does it? Remember that funny spiral light that was videoed in Norway just before Obama got his bullshit peace prize... there happens to be a HAARP type facility in that region... Some will say it is intended to be a mind altering machine also... seems a little far fetched to me but in this day and age anything seems possible. Fuck knows, but what I do know is that fucking with nature is not a good idea at all!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #11 January 12, 2010 QuoteQuote/edit to clarify for those who don't click the link that the article is on a Pakistani website. I wonder if you go to the site.. if you are put on a watch list. Don't matter. I'm sure they are already watching you." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #12 January 12, 2010 QuoteNow we get an (admittedly, user-contributed) article in Pakistan about how it was a US experiment that has caused an incredibly harsh winter for the entire northern hemisphere. Actually been enjoying winter myself. Maybe they need to take up some winter sports." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #13 January 13, 2010 Quote Quote Really? I know very little about HAARP, I'd appreciate it if you could explain the physics of the project to me, pointing out which parts of it are bad and why. I believe fucking with nature is never a good thing, I am no physicist, but understand our planet is very sensitive and we humans have continued to screw the joint since we discovered fire. HAARP is a US military project that is said to be a reasearch program learning about our ionsphere, but it is a little like Japans whale research program, send a harpoon into it and see what happens... HAARP FAQ Wikis version of what HAARP is! Some blame the current absurdly cold winter in the north on HAARP, saying it basicly punched a hole in our atmosphere. it doesn't usually snow in florida does it? Remember that funny spiral light that was videoed in Norway just before Obama got his bullshit peace prize... there happens to be a HAARP type facility in that region... Some will say it is intended to be a mind altering machine also... seems a little far fetched to me but in this day and age anything seems possible. Fuck knows, but what I do know is that fucking with nature is not a good idea at all! If you believe that HAARP punched a hole in the atmosphere you probably also believe that Bush brought down the Towers with some kind of "Magic Thermite" Ohh.. Wait a minute..."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #14 January 13, 2010 QuoteSome blame the current absurdly cold winter in the north on HAARP, saying it basicly punched a hole in our atmosphere. it doesn't usually snow in florida does it? Remember that funny spiral light that was videoed in Norway just before Obama got his bullshit peace prize... there happens to be a HAARP type facility in that region... There happen to be a lot of things in that region. Like the headquarters of the Russian Northern Fleet. And while there are numerous "HAARP type" facilities around the world (the one in Ramfjordmoen is an international collaboration) you and this article both focus on HAARP because the University of Alaska receives funds from ONR, AFRL, and DARPA to conduct their research there. QuoteFuck knows, but what I do know is that fucking with nature is not a good idea at all! Have you ever peed in the ocean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #15 January 13, 2010 QuoteIf you believe that HAARP punched a hole in the atmosphere you probably also believe that Bush brought down the Towers with some kind of "Magic Thermite" Blush Ohh.. Wait a minute...Angelic looking for a backup from the 'in crowd'? i never said i believed it did createe the harsh winter, but i will state that i do not necessarily 'not' beleive it. they are sending massive pulses of energy into the ionssphere, and say it does not effect the weather because the weather is formed at a lower altitude. What the fuck do they know about it? probably quite a lot, but are they sure....? you know like ronny jeevis is sure the holy spirit will guide you... and mohmmed is sure allah is the one? lets just leave nature alone eh?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 36 #16 January 13, 2010 Quote Seems like a way to fix AWG! AWG ? again ? Dude.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #17 January 13, 2010 QuoteSome blame the current absurdly cold winter in the north on HAARP, saying it basicly punched a hole in our atmosphere. it doesn't usually snow in florida does it? Do they? Why? QuoteRemember that funny spiral light that was videoed in Norway just before Obama got his bullshit peace prize... there happens to be a HAARP type facility in that region... Is there? So? QuoteSome will say it is intended to be a mind altering machine also... Really? On what grounds?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #18 January 13, 2010 QuoteDo they? Why? QuoteIs there? So? QuoteReally? On what grounds? do your own research, I am busy at a competition, i intend on studying this further but have not had the time to do so yet. I simple google search will answer those questions, but determining the the truth takes more, and a thourough understanding of the physics. but in a nut shell they beam a shitload of energy into the ionsphere and see what happens. they intend on disrupting enemy comuncations, QuoteIt has 180 antenna units, organized in 15 columns by 12 rows, yielding a theoretical maximum gain of 31 dB. A total of 3.6 MW of transmitter power will feed it (roughly the power of a residential street block or office building), but the power is focused in the upward direction by the geometry of the large phased array of antennas which allow the antennas to work together in controlling the direction. As of March 2007[update], all the antennas were in place, the final phase was completed and the antenna array was undergoing testing aimed at fine-tuning its performance to comply with safety requirements required by regulatory agencies. The facility officially began full operations in its final 3.6 MW status in the summer of 2007. Communications will not be the only thing they will be disrupting. these stats are to comply with certain standards but who knows how much 'energy' they are putting into it."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #19 January 13, 2010 Quotebut determining the the truth takes more, and a thourough understanding of the physics. I'm sure it does. But wait! Didn't you also say "I am no physicist," and "haarp is a very stupid idea,"? How do you know it is a very stupid idea if you don't understand the physics? Quotebut in a nut shell they beam a shitload of energy into the ionsphere and see what happens. they intend on disrupting enemy comuncations, How do you know that? QuoteCommunications will not be the only thing they will be disrupting. What will they be disrupting? How do you know? Do you now claim you have a thorough understanding of the physics?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 January 13, 2010 Quote Quote Seems like a way to fix AWG! AWG ? again ? Dude.... It is my lec dislick fingers"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #21 January 13, 2010 Quote "Pseudo-Science" isn't strong enough of a pejorative to describe this story entitled: Norway Time Hole “Leak” Plunges Northern Hemisphere Into Chaos Quote But to the most critical aspect of these events it surely lies with the Western World’s continued arrogance in regards to experimenting on both our Planets natural species and human beings, and though who may think that they are ‘gods’, are continuing to give evidence that they are acting more like devils. A month ago the Russians apparently have a failed SLBM test that results in a spectacular light show in Norway. Now we get an (admittedly, user-contributed) article in Pakistan about how it was a US experiment that has caused an incredibly harsh winter for the entire northern hemisphere. /edit to clarify for those who don't click the link that the article is on a Pakistani website. Quote “catastrophic puncturing” of our Plant’s thermosphere thus allowing into the troposphere an “unimpeded thermal inversion” of the exosphere, which is the outermost layer of Earth’s atmosphere. This is old news: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #22 January 13, 2010 Quote This is old news: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/ Emmerich needs to stop making end of the world movies. Quote but in a nut shell they beam a shitload of energy into the ionsphere and see what happens. they intend on disrupting enemy comuncations, Similar to when "they" connected a shitload of computers together to see what happens. Or when "they" wrote a shitload of code to see what happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #23 January 13, 2010 QuoteHow do you know that? Thier website says so! Now i know you are trying to be facetious or something. how about you read the links..."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourmomma 0 #24 January 13, 2010 Dude if your gonna get freaked out about science you don't understand, you should start with the large hadron collider. Those scientists have there eye on creating a black hole, AND are generating energies which far exceed the relatively paltry ERP of 3,981 MW (96dBW) generated by haarp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #25 January 13, 2010 why is it that you think i am freaked out?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
