Gene03 0 #1 January 19, 2010 That's right people. http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2010-01-19-Military-weapons_N.htm?csp=34“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #2 January 19, 2010 Wow them dumb ass liberal will cry about anything Losers! Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #3 January 20, 2010 Quote That's right people. http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2010-01-19-Military-weapons_N.htm?csp=34 Pretty cool. Ain't no athiests in a fox hole, ya know.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #4 January 20, 2010 I like it! Next up: IED protective garments with "allahu akbar" embroidered in them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 January 20, 2010 QuoteI like it! Next up: IED protective garments with "allahu akbar" embroidered in them. They already have them. You didnt get the memo?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 January 20, 2010 Sh*t...I never saw that on my ACOG...but oh well...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #7 January 20, 2010 Maybe you were too busy to read the fine print? “The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #8 January 20, 2010 I just checked and mine says "5:16". The other markings are standard. Anyone know what that means? Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 January 20, 2010 QuoteI just checked and mine says "5:16". The other markings are standard. Anyone know what that means? I will have to give credit to both the guys that did this and the guys that figured it out. Right or wrong it's still very clever. To me it looks like they're all parts of model numbers and I certainly wouldn't have checked without knowing to look for something. Derek, is there a set of two or three letters before the "5:16"? There should be. The 5:16 are chapter and verse, the letters in front should tell you what book. Most of the references are to light in some way which is sort of cool for sights.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #10 January 20, 2010 Kind of like the wrappers on In-n-Out burgers. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #11 January 20, 2010 QuoteDerek, is there a set of two or three letters before the "5:16"? There should be. The 5:16 are chapter and verse, the letters in front should tell you what book. No letter, "3.5 x 35" which refers to the model ACOG. Then the "5:16". Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #12 January 20, 2010 Most likely answer. Matthew 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven. cant say I find this cool at all. It plays exactly into the hands of those who wish to paint the US as engaged in 'Holy War' someone at that company should be held accountable and they should lose all government contracts for the next 10+ years because of this.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #13 January 20, 2010 Quotecant say I find this cool at all. It plays exactly into the hands of those who wish to paint the US as engaged in 'Holy War' In the end they'll find any excuse to accuse the Unites States of engaging in a holy war. I just wonder how some here would feel if these were references to verses in the Koran instead of the Bible. My guess would be that these same people would be up in arms going, going ape s%$t and would want to hang the execs of this company for promoting terrorism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 January 20, 2010 Yes and no. Depends on the verse in question. GEN 1:3 I think would be pretty innocent. REV 1:1 Might be a pretty big issue.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #15 January 20, 2010 QuoteQuotecant say I find this cool at all. It plays exactly into the hands of those who wish to paint the US as engaged in 'Holy War' In the end they'll find any excuse to accuse the Unites States of engaging in a holy war. I just wonder how some here would feel if these were references to verses in the Koran instead of the Bible. My guess would be that these same people would be up in arms going, going ape s%$t and would want to hang the execs of this company for promoting terrorism. religion is religion, as a Government we have no business pushing any of them, in even the most oblique manner, nor should any equipment issued to our soldiers.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #16 January 20, 2010 Quote cant say I find this cool at all. It plays exactly into the hands of those who wish to paint the US as engaged in 'Holy War' They were doing that before the obscure references on sights. Quotesomeone at that company should be held accountable Held accountable for what? The founder of the company, who died in '03, started the practice and it continued after his death. What exactly would you like to punish them for? Quoteand they should lose all government contracts for the next 10+ years because of this. The government bought the sights long after this practice was started. If they refuse to modify future purchases then the gov. has every right not to buy anything else. They didn't do anything illegal. Knee jerk punishment (and possibly breach of contract) is irrational. Quotereligion is religion, as a Government we have no business pushing any of them, The government isn't pushing religion. The company isn't even pushing religion. The founder did it as a personal reference to his beliefs. Quotenor should any equipment issued to our soldiers. The gov. has every right to make that decision about future purchases, even though the company is not pushing religion. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #17 January 20, 2010 QuoteQuotecant say I find this cool at all. It plays exactly into the hands of those who wish to paint the US as engaged in 'Holy War' In the end they'll find any excuse to accuse the Unites States of engaging in a holy war. I just wonder how some here would feel if these were references to verses in the Koran instead of the Bible. My guess would be that these same people would be up in arms going, going ape s%$t and would want to hang the execs of this company for promoting terrorism. ...um...they've already been clamoring that the US has been engaged in a "holy war", and "they" have already stated they are in a hold war with us...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redlegphi 0 #18 January 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotecant say I find this cool at all. It plays exactly into the hands of those who wish to paint the US as engaged in 'Holy War' In the end they'll find any excuse to accuse the Unites States of engaging in a holy war. I just wonder how some here would feel if these were references to verses in the Koran instead of the Bible. My guess would be that these same people would be up in arms going, going ape s%$t and would want to hang the execs of this company for promoting terrorism. ...um...they've already been clamoring that the US has been engaged in a "holy war", and "they" have already stated they are in a hold war with us... Yes, but not everybody believes it...until the fundies get something like this to use as a propaganda/recruitment tool. I agree, it's stupid to get worked up over this, but it's probably also going to lead to a couple more idiots joining the side that wants to blow us up. Above all else, we're in a global IO war and we still aren't very good at fighting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #19 January 20, 2010 "someone at that company should be held accountable and they should lose all government contracts for the next 10+ years because of this." I guess you have something against Freedom of Speech. My understanding, is that this has been a long standing policy with the company. The Muslims are not concerned with a Part No. stamped on a scope. The only people that seem to have a problem with this part no. are Liberal Americans. I think the scope is as fine as they come, I wonder if I can purchase one for myself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #20 January 20, 2010 Quote "someone at that company should be held accountable and they should lose all government contracts for the next 10+ years because of this." I guess you have something against Freedom of Speech. My understanding, is that this has been a long standing policy with the company. The Muslims are not concerned with a Part No. stamped on a scope. The only people that seem to have a problem with this part no. are Liberal Americans. I think the scope is as fine as they come, I wonder if I can purchase one for myself? Fuck no you can't, they're just for the cool kids. http://www.trijicon.com/Trijicon.cfm?CFID=11625638&CFTOKEN=25858982“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #21 January 20, 2010 Quote"someone at that company should be held accountable and they should lose all government contracts for the next 10+ years because of this." I guess you have something against Freedom Speech. ....... I think the scope is as fine as they come, I wonder if I can purchase one for myself? Religious free speech has no place in military contracts. For personal use it is absolutely OK, however I'm quite sure this company didn't mention that it habitually included Christian religious references stamped on its equipment when it bid for the contract. You can bet your ass if they had they would have been told they needed removal if they wanted the govts business. The question above stands would you be equally OK with qoutes from the Koran included on equipment issued to us soldiers? Religious statements of any stripe have no place on US military issued equipment.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #22 January 20, 2010 QuoteThat's right people. http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2010-01-19-Military-weapons_N.htm?csp=34 Now y'all know I would approve. I think Rom13:3-4 would be a good one as well.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #23 January 20, 2010 Instead of getting worked up about this, I say we embrace the idea. I'm going to start marking condoms with Genesis 19:30-36. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #24 January 20, 2010 I have an issue if a piece of equipment doesn't meet the spec. If the spec is performance based only, and this doesn't impact, then I'm ok if he carves little bunnies in it. If the spec includes surface finish, s/n format etc and this violates it, then I'm not ok with it. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #25 January 20, 2010 QuoteInstead of getting worked up about this, I say we embrace the idea. I'm going to start marking condoms with Genesis 19:30-36. Seems appropriate; wasn't a Russian motto, "vice is nice but incest best,"?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites