RonD1120 62 #126 January 23, 2010 I can always count on you. You really don't like America do you? Who holds you accountable?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #127 January 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote .... You live in Germany. No validity. Your replies to Great Britain and Germany do explain a lot. Picayunish at its best. Sort of like your replies to JR, Ron and myself, nicht wahr? Quote Jesus Christ, how can someone live like that. Yes, how DARE he not follow YOUR standards?? Mike, I do not demand anyone to follow MY standards. Common standards which are valid all over the world are a good indicator. Nicht wahr? BTW: Are you, JR and Ron a special entity, or what?? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #128 January 23, 2010 They did not believe that America has to apologize. [Blue] Sure [/Blue] They believed that to live here was an honor. [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] They believed you must contribute to society not live off of it. [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] They believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to believe its best to keep your mouth shut. [Blue] Started out as a Christian nation - ok. But not now. Wanting people not to shove their ideologies in you face is a different matter - for either side of that coin - a terrible value for either those accepting or not accepting of a specific religion, including atheism. On either side telling people to shut up is a TERRIBLE value [/Blue] They believed that sex before marriage creates problems for society and you should learn to control yourself. [Blue] Absolutely - responsibility and caring [/Blue] They believed in accepting personal responsibility for your actions. [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] They believed that sex between members of the same sex was queer and if you wanted to participate it is best to not talk about it. [Blue] No, people have differences. Wanting people not to shove their ideologies in you face is a different matter - for either side of that coin - a terrible value for either those accepting or not accepting of a gayness. On either side telling people to shut up is a TERRIBLE value [/Blue] They believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything you can to completely destroy your enemy. [Blue] NO, like an individual - you do what it takes to stop the aggression. If you don't have to, you don't annihilate the other[/Blue] After the war do everything you can to help them reconstruct their decimated country. [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] Never allow the war to reach our borders. [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] Regardless of what you do for fun and relaxation, you must produce. [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] If fun becomes your primary focus of life, examine your value system and take personal responsibility. [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] Do not be afraid to ask for help; it is not a sign of weakness [Blue] Absolutely [/Blue] You family has strong, and some good values. But some that are messed up. Particularly the desire to gag those that don't agree. That's no better than the politically correct left that wants to control thought and speech. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #129 January 23, 2010 Quote They believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to believe its best to keep your mouth shut. [Blue]Started out as a Christian nation - ok[/Blue] Except even that is a myth. America was settled as a for-profit proposition. Some of the people involved were Christian, sure, but that wasn't the motivation at all.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #130 January 23, 2010 QuoteQuote Sounds like you got some strong values from your parents. At what point did you change to a more Christian belief system? That is a very good question. When I abandoned the liberal counter culture lifestyle upon realizing its failure in a productive society. I moved from Taos, NM to Lee Vining, CA and met Jesus Christ of Nazareth on the shore of Mono Lake, 16 Mar 81. Can he still do the walking on water thing? With the holes in his feet?“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #131 January 24, 2010 Quote Mike, I do not demand anyone to follow MY standards. Really? Do you usually say "Jesus Christ, how can someone live like that" to people you approve of, then? Quote Common standards which are valid all over the world are a good indicator. And, he has to follow your "common standards", why? Quote Nicht wahr? Nicht. Quote BTW: Are you, JR and Ron a special entity, or what?? Yup...a last bastion of sanity in a forum full of hoplophobes. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #132 January 24, 2010 Quote Yup...a last bastion of sanity in a forum full of hoplophobes. lol I had to look that one up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,493 #133 January 24, 2010 QuoteI have read the replies to you. You are right on the money. Really? Sure about that? Do you believe that non-believers in christianity should have to shut up? Is that the American way? Is that in the Constitution? Do you believe that gays should shut up about being gay? Wasn't it only a week ago that you responded to the "Conservative argument for Gay marriage" thread with a very different stance? Guess you changed your mind again real quick.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,493 #134 January 24, 2010 QuoteYou live in the UK. No validity. I've actually read the Constitution. That's the only validity that counts. At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #135 January 24, 2010 Quote Quote Yup...a last bastion of sanity in a forum full of hoplophobes. lol I had to look that one up. Sanity, or hoplophobe? Skydivers - we put the "fun" in dysfunctional!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #136 January 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteYou live in the UK. No validity. I've actually read the Constitution. That's the only validity that counts. At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out. Since you're such the constitutional expert, then you know that the BOR are restrictions upon the Government and not individuals...right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,493 #137 January 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou live in the UK. No validity. I've actually read the Constitution. That's the only validity that counts. At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out. Since you're such the constitutional expert, then you know that the BOR are restrictions upon the Government and not individuals...right? Sigh... What do you imagine a person means when they talk about "what America is about"? Ron and his family have every right to be intolerant bigots, but they shouldn't pretend that intolerance and bigotry are part of the values or laws of the state.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #138 January 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou live in the UK. No validity. I've actually read the Constitution. That's the only validity that counts. At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out. Since you're such the constitutional expert, then you know that the BOR are restrictions upon the Government and not individuals...right? Sigh... What do you imagine a person means when they talk about "what America is about"? Ron and his family have every right to be intolerant bigots, but they shouldn't pretend that intolerance and bigotry are part of the values or laws of the state. He was talking about his family, not the country - perhaps you missed that in your rush to condemn him for not being PC enough.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #139 January 24, 2010 Ok, lets keep this in perspective folks. Here's some more Jesus Rifles.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #140 January 24, 2010 Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #141 January 24, 2010 Quote You live in the UK. No validity. Quote You live in germany. No validity You're a seppo, no validity. You kindred opinion explains alot about what you have posted in the past and you strong beliefs about the origins of life, thanks for clarifying. I suggest you get out more!have you ever travelled outside of the USA?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #142 January 24, 2010 QuoteYou're a seppo, no validity. If he was speaking to sheep-shagger Kiwi mores, that would be correct. QuoteYou kindred opinion explains alot about what you have posted in the past and you strong beliefs about the origins of life, thanks for clarifying. So does yours.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #143 January 24, 2010 QuoteYou're a seppo, no validity. And you're a fucking tool. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #144 January 24, 2010 Quote Quote You're a seppo, no validity. And you're a fucking tool. Tell us how you really feel!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #145 January 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote You're a seppo, no validity. And you're a fucking tool. Tell us how you really feel! I deleted the post, but my feelings just refuse to change. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #146 January 24, 2010 QuoteI deleted the post, but my feelings just refuse to change. Maybe you should take a self imposed time out until you can keep it under control? That goes for everyone.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #147 January 24, 2010 QuoteQuoteI deleted the post, but my feelings just refuse to change. Maybe you should take a self imposed time out until you can keep it under control? Damned gald I didn't call someone a "seppo" - imagine the wrath... "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #148 January 24, 2010 You might not be aware of this, but when you delete a message on the forums . . . I can still read what you wrote. Again, if you took a self imposed time out from this situation tonight, it probably wouldn't be the worst thing you could do. I'm not banning you, I'm not even threatening to if you decide to continue to post. I'm saying it just might be better for your mental health to calm down a bit.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #149 January 24, 2010 OK "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #150 January 24, 2010 QuoteI can always count on you. You really don't like America do you? Who holds you accountable? Ron...sigh. This is what - the fifth? sixth? seventh? time you've "replied" to me this way? When you want to discuss the issues hotly debated, let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
