jakee 1,500 #226 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo, my values have nothing to do, in this context, with how the government works. Except that they do, since you were talking about things that are under the control of the government and the big C. No I was not. Oh really? So war is not under the control of the government, then? The Constitution never mentions religion, then?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #227 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo, my values have nothing to do, in this context, with how the government works. Except that they do, since you were talking about things that are under the control of the government and the big C. No I was not. Oh really? So war is not under the control of the government, then? The Constitution never mentions religion, then? DRIP, DRIP, DRIP; YAP, YAP, YAP; WHINE, WHINE, WHINE.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #228 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo, my values have nothing to do, in this context, with how the government works. Except that they do, since you were talking about things that are under the control of the government and the big C. No I was not. Oh really? So war is not under the control of the government, then? The Constitution never mentions religion, then? DRIP, DRIP, DRIP; YAP, YAP, YAP; WHINE, WHINE, WHINE. A stirring and convincing defence, my good man! In other words, you know I'm right.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #229 January 26, 2010 QuoteWhy are you so incapable of understanding this? I'm saying that his beliefs about it are wrong, not that his beliefs are it. There really is no possibe way that you are still genuinely misunderstanding this, so why don't you just drop the fucking games already? I'm not playing games - let me make it so unmistakably clear that even YOU can get it. YOU ARE WRONG. What he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. You're WRONG.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #230 January 26, 2010 QuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. QuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. "About". One word, two syllables, five letters, all in all a common simple, everyday word. I'm surprised that you don't seem to know of it. I'll say it to you as well, does war have nothing to do with the government? Does the Constitution not mention religion? And if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #231 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. I've already provided it - it's not MY problem if you can't understand it. QuoteQuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. No, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? QuoteAnd if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you? You'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #232 January 26, 2010 QuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. QuoteYou'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo. Oh, I see. So you're not going to either show me where I said that, or admit that you were talking at a ridiculous, irrelevant tangent whilst pretending I had said it. That's real big of you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #233 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. And he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, so when are you going to quit beating your dead horse?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #234 January 26, 2010 QuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. And you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #235 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. Ah, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). QuoteAnd you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase. Speaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. Quelle surpriseMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #236 January 26, 2010 QuoteAh, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). Yes, what his family believed about the state. QuoteSpeaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. His beliefs about the state. And I have shown that. Are you of the opinion that a belief can never be wrong? Now when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #237 January 26, 2010 QuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< You keep beating that horse, jakee.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #238 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< Did you notice that the question that I asked was "are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution", not "are you going to show me where I mentioned the Constitution"? Did ya notice that? I mean seriously, even taken out of context it doesn't say anything remotely close to that, and with context it's even clearer. So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #239 January 26, 2010 QuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #240 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? I have. Unless you really do think that war, international relations and state religion are nothing to do with the state. (That was another question you both ignored just now) Now your turn, show me where I said he violated the Constitution. Should be easy for you, you seemed so sure of yourself!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #241 January 26, 2010 How bout dem Jesus Guns? "It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #242 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #243 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Anyone got their kit in the mail yet? Wow...you can actually send religious material through the United States Postal Service?!?!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #244 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 Let the predictable ranting about religion begin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #245 January 26, 2010 Quote Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 "One miniature Roossian phrasebook and Bible..." - Maj TJ KongDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scratch 0 #246 January 27, 2010 I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #247 January 27, 2010 Quote I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Perhaps......I am thinking that it could be done if they put a little picture of a devil with a pitchfork on the other side of the scope tube to balance out the biblical references everyone is upset about......It could be called the TDC ( Thread Drift Compensator)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #248 January 27, 2010 1522537Jsorta like that?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #249 January 27, 2010 QuoteMy Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 You really need to slow down and read the Gospel in its full context. Thinking that Jesus is a killer instead of a savior nullifies the entire Word of God. It is frustrating to me how you continualy use this verse to justify violence in anyway. 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RonD1120 62 #227 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo, my values have nothing to do, in this context, with how the government works. Except that they do, since you were talking about things that are under the control of the government and the big C. No I was not. Oh really? So war is not under the control of the government, then? The Constitution never mentions religion, then? DRIP, DRIP, DRIP; YAP, YAP, YAP; WHINE, WHINE, WHINE.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #228 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo, my values have nothing to do, in this context, with how the government works. Except that they do, since you were talking about things that are under the control of the government and the big C. No I was not. Oh really? So war is not under the control of the government, then? The Constitution never mentions religion, then? DRIP, DRIP, DRIP; YAP, YAP, YAP; WHINE, WHINE, WHINE. A stirring and convincing defence, my good man! In other words, you know I'm right.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #229 January 26, 2010 QuoteWhy are you so incapable of understanding this? I'm saying that his beliefs about it are wrong, not that his beliefs are it. There really is no possibe way that you are still genuinely misunderstanding this, so why don't you just drop the fucking games already? I'm not playing games - let me make it so unmistakably clear that even YOU can get it. YOU ARE WRONG. What he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. You're WRONG.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #230 January 26, 2010 QuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. QuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. "About". One word, two syllables, five letters, all in all a common simple, everyday word. I'm surprised that you don't seem to know of it. I'll say it to you as well, does war have nothing to do with the government? Does the Constitution not mention religion? And if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #231 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. I've already provided it - it's not MY problem if you can't understand it. QuoteQuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. No, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? QuoteAnd if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you? You'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #232 January 26, 2010 QuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. QuoteYou'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo. Oh, I see. So you're not going to either show me where I said that, or admit that you were talking at a ridiculous, irrelevant tangent whilst pretending I had said it. That's real big of you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #233 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. And he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, so when are you going to quit beating your dead horse?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #234 January 26, 2010 QuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. And you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #235 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. Ah, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). QuoteAnd you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase. Speaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. Quelle surpriseMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #236 January 26, 2010 QuoteAh, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). Yes, what his family believed about the state. QuoteSpeaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. His beliefs about the state. And I have shown that. Are you of the opinion that a belief can never be wrong? Now when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #237 January 26, 2010 QuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< You keep beating that horse, jakee.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #238 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< Did you notice that the question that I asked was "are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution", not "are you going to show me where I mentioned the Constitution"? Did ya notice that? I mean seriously, even taken out of context it doesn't say anything remotely close to that, and with context it's even clearer. So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #239 January 26, 2010 QuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #240 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? I have. Unless you really do think that war, international relations and state religion are nothing to do with the state. (That was another question you both ignored just now) Now your turn, show me where I said he violated the Constitution. Should be easy for you, you seemed so sure of yourself!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #241 January 26, 2010 How bout dem Jesus Guns? "It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #242 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #243 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Anyone got their kit in the mail yet? Wow...you can actually send religious material through the United States Postal Service?!?!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #244 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 Let the predictable ranting about religion begin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #245 January 26, 2010 Quote Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 "One miniature Roossian phrasebook and Bible..." - Maj TJ KongDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scratch 0 #246 January 27, 2010 I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #247 January 27, 2010 Quote I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Perhaps......I am thinking that it could be done if they put a little picture of a devil with a pitchfork on the other side of the scope tube to balance out the biblical references everyone is upset about......It could be called the TDC ( Thread Drift Compensator)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #248 January 27, 2010 1522537Jsorta like that?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #249 January 27, 2010 QuoteMy Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 You really need to slow down and read the Gospel in its full context. Thinking that Jesus is a killer instead of a savior nullifies the entire Word of God. It is frustrating to me how you continualy use this verse to justify violence in anyway. Do not get me wrong, defending yourself and your family is perfectly within the limitations of any believer and non believer alike... but that does not mean that Jesus taught that."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #250 January 27, 2010 QuoteThinking that Jesus is a killer instead of a savior I've neither thought nor said that. To you, and a few others who have tried to put words in my mouth recently: if the only way to win an argument against me is to claim that I've said something that I've never actually said, then you have already lost the argument. Your best move if you're contemplating such an action, is to just keep quiet. This has been a public service message brought to you by Jesus, Smith & Wesson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Next Page 10 of 15 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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jakee 1,500 #228 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo, my values have nothing to do, in this context, with how the government works. Except that they do, since you were talking about things that are under the control of the government and the big C. No I was not. Oh really? So war is not under the control of the government, then? The Constitution never mentions religion, then? DRIP, DRIP, DRIP; YAP, YAP, YAP; WHINE, WHINE, WHINE. A stirring and convincing defence, my good man! In other words, you know I'm right.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #229 January 26, 2010 QuoteWhy are you so incapable of understanding this? I'm saying that his beliefs about it are wrong, not that his beliefs are it. There really is no possibe way that you are still genuinely misunderstanding this, so why don't you just drop the fucking games already? I'm not playing games - let me make it so unmistakably clear that even YOU can get it. YOU ARE WRONG. What he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. You're WRONG.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #230 January 26, 2010 QuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. QuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. "About". One word, two syllables, five letters, all in all a common simple, everyday word. I'm surprised that you don't seem to know of it. I'll say it to you as well, does war have nothing to do with the government? Does the Constitution not mention religion? And if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #231 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. I've already provided it - it's not MY problem if you can't understand it. QuoteQuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. No, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? QuoteAnd if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you? You'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #232 January 26, 2010 QuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. QuoteYou'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo. Oh, I see. So you're not going to either show me where I said that, or admit that you were talking at a ridiculous, irrelevant tangent whilst pretending I had said it. That's real big of you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #233 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. And he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, so when are you going to quit beating your dead horse?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #234 January 26, 2010 QuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. And you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #235 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. Ah, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). QuoteAnd you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase. Speaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. Quelle surpriseMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #236 January 26, 2010 QuoteAh, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). Yes, what his family believed about the state. QuoteSpeaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. His beliefs about the state. And I have shown that. Are you of the opinion that a belief can never be wrong? Now when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #237 January 26, 2010 QuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< You keep beating that horse, jakee.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #238 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< Did you notice that the question that I asked was "are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution", not "are you going to show me where I mentioned the Constitution"? Did ya notice that? I mean seriously, even taken out of context it doesn't say anything remotely close to that, and with context it's even clearer. So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #239 January 26, 2010 QuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #240 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? I have. Unless you really do think that war, international relations and state religion are nothing to do with the state. (That was another question you both ignored just now) Now your turn, show me where I said he violated the Constitution. Should be easy for you, you seemed so sure of yourself!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #241 January 26, 2010 How bout dem Jesus Guns? "It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #242 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #243 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Anyone got their kit in the mail yet? Wow...you can actually send religious material through the United States Postal Service?!?!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #244 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 Let the predictable ranting about religion begin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #245 January 26, 2010 Quote Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 "One miniature Roossian phrasebook and Bible..." - Maj TJ KongDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scratch 0 #246 January 27, 2010 I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #247 January 27, 2010 Quote I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Perhaps......I am thinking that it could be done if they put a little picture of a devil with a pitchfork on the other side of the scope tube to balance out the biblical references everyone is upset about......It could be called the TDC ( Thread Drift Compensator)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #248 January 27, 2010 1522537Jsorta like that?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rynodigsmusic 0 #249 January 27, 2010 QuoteMy Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 You really need to slow down and read the Gospel in its full context. Thinking that Jesus is a killer instead of a savior nullifies the entire Word of God. It is frustrating to me how you continualy use this verse to justify violence in anyway. Do not get me wrong, defending yourself and your family is perfectly within the limitations of any believer and non believer alike... but that does not mean that Jesus taught that."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #250 January 27, 2010 QuoteThinking that Jesus is a killer instead of a savior I've neither thought nor said that. To you, and a few others who have tried to put words in my mouth recently: if the only way to win an argument against me is to claim that I've said something that I've never actually said, then you have already lost the argument. Your best move if you're contemplating such an action, is to just keep quiet. This has been a public service message brought to you by Jesus, Smith & Wesson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Next Page 10 of 15 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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mnealtx 0 #229 January 26, 2010 QuoteWhy are you so incapable of understanding this? I'm saying that his beliefs about it are wrong, not that his beliefs are it. There really is no possibe way that you are still genuinely misunderstanding this, so why don't you just drop the fucking games already? I'm not playing games - let me make it so unmistakably clear that even YOU can get it. YOU ARE WRONG. What he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. You're WRONG.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #230 January 26, 2010 QuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. QuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. "About". One word, two syllables, five letters, all in all a common simple, everyday word. I'm surprised that you don't seem to know of it. I'll say it to you as well, does war have nothing to do with the government? Does the Constitution not mention religion? And if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #231 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteYOU ARE WRONG. You can write that ten feet high in all the colours of the fucking rainbow if you want to, but without a decent argument to back it up it's just so much noise. I've already provided it - it's not MY problem if you can't understand it. QuoteQuoteWhat he and his family believes has NOTHING to do with the government, the state or the Constitution. Except that he's stating beliefs about the government, state and Constitution. No, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? QuoteAnd if you could get around to showing where I said his views violated the Constitution, that would be great. Since you won't be able to do that, an acknowledgment that you were indeed playing silly little games with silly little strawmen will have to suffice. But, you won't do that either, will you? You'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #232 January 26, 2010 QuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. QuoteYou'd know all about the strawmen, you've certainly flung enough of them around the convo. Oh, I see. So you're not going to either show me where I said that, or admit that you were talking at a ridiculous, irrelevant tangent whilst pretending I had said it. That's real big of you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #233 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo, he's not - how many times do you have to be told that? I've shown you that he was. I've quoted you his words where he is unmistakeably talking about them. And he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, so when are you going to quit beating your dead horse?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #234 January 26, 2010 QuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. And you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #235 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnd he's told you himself that he WASN'T, several times, So? He twists more then Chubby Checker, and he certainly wouldn't be the first to backtrack and prevaricate when he's called out. I'll go with what he said at the time, not what he's saying now. Ah, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). QuoteAnd you've still not either shown where I said he violated the Constitution, or admitted to talking a line of irrelevant bullshit. Quelle surprise, if I may borrow the phrase. Speaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. Quelle surpriseMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #236 January 26, 2010 QuoteAh, yes, where spoke of what HIS FAMILY believed. That's probably a good thing to do (except for your argument, of course). Yes, what his family believed about the state. QuoteSpeaking of irrelevant bullshit, you've STILL not shown where he was talking about ANYTHING but his beliefs. His beliefs about the state. And I have shown that. Are you of the opinion that a belief can never be wrong? Now when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #237 January 26, 2010 QuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constsitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< You keep beating that horse, jakee.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #238 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteNow when are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution? You made that allegation the lynchpin of your argument for more than a few posts and you've still not even attempted to show where I said it. >>At the very least, you've missed out a large chunk of the Bill of Rights. I'd suggest checking it out<< Did you notice that the question that I asked was "are you going to show me where I said he violated the Constitution", not "are you going to show me where I mentioned the Constitution"? Did ya notice that? I mean seriously, even taken out of context it doesn't say anything remotely close to that, and with context it's even clearer. So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #239 January 26, 2010 QuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #240 January 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show me where I said his beliefs violated the constitution, or are you going admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? So, the question still stands. Are you ever, ever going to show us where Ron was talking about the state, or are you going to admit to talking a line of irrelevant BS just to make it look like you had a point? I have. Unless you really do think that war, international relations and state religion are nothing to do with the state. (That was another question you both ignored just now) Now your turn, show me where I said he violated the Constitution. Should be easy for you, you seemed so sure of yourself!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #241 January 26, 2010 How bout dem Jesus Guns? "It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #242 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #243 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? Anyone got their kit in the mail yet? Wow...you can actually send religious material through the United States Postal Service?!?!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #244 January 26, 2010 Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 Let the predictable ranting about religion begin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #245 January 26, 2010 Quote Quote How bout dem Jesus Guns? My Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 "One miniature Roossian phrasebook and Bible..." - Maj TJ KongDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch 0 #246 January 27, 2010 I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #247 January 27, 2010 Quote I am curious if Trijicon could manufacture a sight that compensates for thread drift and if so, thread drift of this magnitude. Perhaps......I am thinking that it could be done if they put a little picture of a devil with a pitchfork on the other side of the scope tube to balance out the biblical references everyone is upset about......It could be called the TDC ( Thread Drift Compensator)"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #248 January 27, 2010 1522537Jsorta like that?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #249 January 27, 2010 QuoteMy Jesus kit. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." - Luke 22:36 You really need to slow down and read the Gospel in its full context. Thinking that Jesus is a killer instead of a savior nullifies the entire Word of God. It is frustrating to me how you continualy use this verse to justify violence in anyway. Do not get me wrong, defending yourself and your family is perfectly within the limitations of any believer and non believer alike... but that does not mean that Jesus taught that."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #250 January 27, 2010 QuoteThinking that Jesus is a killer instead of a savior I've neither thought nor said that. To you, and a few others who have tried to put words in my mouth recently: if the only way to win an argument against me is to claim that I've said something that I've never actually said, then you have already lost the argument. Your best move if you're contemplating such an action, is to just keep quiet. This has been a public service message brought to you by Jesus, Smith & Wesson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
