billvon 2,994 #101 January 22, 2010 >So you were wrong to judo-flip that guy that attacked you? I have never judo-flipped anyone. I don't know judo. (And I don't carry a gun, so I can't deliver any JohnRich-style street justice, either.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #102 January 22, 2010 Quote>So you were wrong to judo-flip that guy that attacked you? I have never judo-flipped anyone. I don't know judo. Now you're playing word games like kallend. So you were wrong to flip that guy that attacked you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #103 January 22, 2010 Quote JohnRich-style street justice Classy. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #104 January 22, 2010 >So you were wrong to flip that guy that attacked you? I don't know. It was over before I knew what was happening. If I hadn't thought it was Dave? Yes, I probably would have let him try for my wallet (it wasn't there anyway.) If I thought someone else would get hurt? I might have tried to stop him. Would that have been wrong? Going by the word of Jesus, perhaps - but that's a standard I rarely measure up to (although I try.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #105 January 23, 2010 Quote >So you were wrong to flip that guy that attacked you? I don't know. It was over before I knew what was happening. If I hadn't thought it was Dave? Yes, I probably would have let him try for my wallet (it wasn't there anyway.) If I thought someone else would get hurt? I might have tried to stop him. Would that have been wrong? Going by the word of Jesus, perhaps - but that's a standard I rarely measure up to (although I try.) Chose your words veeeeery carefully from now on. You are on the borderline of becoming a (YEE-GADS) conservative. “The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #106 January 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote The mfr is providing a kit to remove them, and will stop incorporating them in future manufacturing. I hope they aren't charging for these 'kits' News: http://www.trijicon.com/whats_new.cfm?whats_newID=169#169 Happy now? They owned up to their "engraved bunnies". They didn't try to back peddle. All in all they "manned up" and offered a fix. I wonder if you can still order them with the Biblical quotes as a civilian buyer? Or ask for your favorite Bible quote?John 3:16“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #107 January 23, 2010 Quoteyour favorite Bible quote? Mine is the one where "spilling one's seed" is prohibited. Modern translation: Don't be such a jerkoff/wanker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #108 January 23, 2010 Quote I think you fundamentally misunderstand what America is about, . No I do not misunderstand. My value system is based on what my parents and grandparents taught me. They experienced WWI, the Great Depression and, WWII. They did not believe that America has to apologize. They believed that to live here was an honor. They believed you must contribute to society not live off of it. They believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to believe its best to keep your mouth shut. They believed that sex before marriage creates problems for society and you should learn to control yourself. They believed in accepting personal responsibility for your actions. They believed that sex between members of the same sex was queer and if you wanted to participate it is best to not talk about it. They believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything you can to completely destroy your enemy. After the war do everything you can to help them reconstruct their decimated country. Never allow the war to reach our borders. Regardless of what you do for fun and relaxation, you must produce. If fun becomes your primary focus of life, examine your value system and take personal responsibility. Do not be afraid to ask for help; it is not a sign of weakness.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #109 January 23, 2010 QuoteThey believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to believe its best to keep your mouth shut. Then they (or is it you?) rejected the teachings of, for example, Plato's Republic, James Madison and John Stuart Mill, all of which warned us against the "tyranny of the majority" and "the violence of majority faction." It is further contrary to the principles embodied in The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, authored by Thomas Jefferson. America is not a Christian nation; that is a myth. It is a pluralistic nation whose population has a numerical majority of people who are Christians, almost always by mere coincidence of birth. QuoteThey believed that sex between members of the same sex was queer and if you wanted to participate it is best to not talk about it. Aside from "see above re: tyranny of the majority", that's just your own garden-variety gay-bashing, and I'm willing to call it out for what it is. QuoteThey believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything you can to completely destroy your enemy. That's hardly an American value, or a uniquely conservative American value. As an historical note, it is a policy repudiated by such notable Republicans as Dwight Eisenhower and John Foster Dulles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,493 #110 January 23, 2010 QuoteNo I do not misunderstand. Yes, you do. QuoteMy value system is based on what my parents and grandparents taught me. Then they are/were also fundamentally mistaken. QuoteThey experienced WWI, the Great Depression and, WWII. Big woop. Doesn't look like they managed to learn much about the nature of tolerance, freedom and democracy along the way.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #111 January 23, 2010 Quote Quote .... They believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything you can to completely destroy your enemy. After the war do everything you can to help them reconstruct their decimated country. .... I believe there's a lot of BS in your post. Above statement alone is somewhat mazy. I believe you by yourself should turn your head a bit more into the wind to smell the substantial changes the world made within last few decades. To blindly take over all so called *values* from parents/grand parents/grand grand .... is naive. We no more are living in the ages of covered wagons, (you) do not need to fight against redskins. Terms like diplomacy, negotiations .... are common phrases in life and politics. Jeez, your post sounds *fresh-water* dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #112 January 23, 2010 QuoteQuote I think you fundamentally misunderstand what America is about, . No I do not misunderstand. My value system is based on what my parents and grandparents taught me. They experienced WWI, the Great Depression and, WWII. They did not believe that America has to apologize. They believed that to live here was an honor. They believed you must contribute to society not live off of it. They believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to believe its best to keep your mouth shut. They believed that sex before marriage creates problems for society and you should learn to control yourself. They believed in accepting personal responsibility for your actions. They believed that sex between members of the same sex was queer and if you wanted to participate it is best to not talk about it. They believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything you can to completely destroy your enemy. After the war do everything you can to help them reconstruct their decimated country. Never allow the war to reach our borders. Regardless of what you do for fun and relaxation, you must produce. If fun becomes your primary focus of life, examine your value system and take personal responsibility. Do not be afraid to ask for help; it is not a sign of weakness. I have read the replies to you. You are right on the money. Don't back down as you have more agreeing with you than don't IMO"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #113 January 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote .... They believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything you can to completely destroy your enemy. After the war do everything you can to help them reconstruct their decimated country. .... I believe there's a lot of BS in your post. Above statement alone is somewhat mazy. I believe you by yourself should turn your head a bit more into the wind to smell the substantial changes the world made within last few decades. To blindly take over all so called *values* from parents/grand parents/grand grand .... is naive. We no more are living in the ages of covered wagons, (you) do not need to fight against redskins. Terms like diplomacy, negotiations .... are common phrases in life and politics. Jeez, your post sounds *fresh-water* progressive poppy cock"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #114 January 23, 2010 QuoteThey believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to believe its best to keep your mouth shut. There is so much wrong with that sentence and it's relationship to America it's almost beyond comprehension.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #115 January 23, 2010 >They believed you must contribute to society not live off of it. >They believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to >believe its best to keep your mouth shut. >They believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything >you can to completely destroy your enemy. >Never allow the war to reach our borders. Sounds like you got some strong values from your parents. At what point did you change to a more Christian belief system? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #116 January 23, 2010 "ZOMG...when you look through the scope you see a CROSS!!!!" Any bets on that being the next complaint?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #117 January 23, 2010 Quote "ZOMG...when you look through the scope you see a CROSS!!!!" Any bets on that being the next complaint? Oh FiretrUCK, here we go again!!!!“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #118 January 23, 2010 Quote Quote "ZOMG...when you look through the scope you see a CROSS!!!!" Any bets on that being the next complaint? Oh FiretrUCK, here we go again!!!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #119 January 23, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo I do not misunderstand. Yes, you do. QuoteMy value system is based on what my parents and grandparents taught me. Then they are/were also fundamentally mistaken. QuoteThey experienced WWI, the Great Depression and, WWII. Big woop. Doesn't look like they managed to learn much about the nature of tolerance, freedom and democracy along the way. You live in the UK. No validity.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #120 January 23, 2010 Quote Quote Quote .... They believed that if you have to go to war make sure you do everything you can to completely destroy your enemy. After the war do everything you can to help them reconstruct their decimated country. .... I believe there's a lot of BS in your post. Above statement alone is somewhat mazy. I believe you by yourself should turn your head a bit more into the wind to smell the substantial changes the world made within last few decades. To blindly take over all so called *values* from parents/grand parents/grand grand .... is naive. We no more are living in the ages of covered wagons, (you) do not need to fight against redskins. Terms like diplomacy, negotiations .... are common phrases in life and politics. Jeez, your post sounds *fresh-water* You live in Germany. No validity.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #121 January 23, 2010 Quote I have read the replies to you. You are right on the money. Don't back down as you have more agreeing with you than don't IMO Thank you my friend. I have no intention of backing down. I can't take any of this too seriously. My main purpose is to help identify the enemy within. I think its working.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #122 January 23, 2010 QuoteQuoteThey believed America is a Christian nation and if you chose not to believe its best to keep your mouth shut. There is so much wrong with that sentence and it's relationship to America it's almost beyond comprehension. "One man's trash is another man's treasure."Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #123 January 23, 2010 Quote Sounds like you got some strong values from your parents. At what point did you change to a more Christian belief system? That is a very good question. When I abandoned the liberal counter culture lifestyle upon realizing its failure in a productive society. I moved from Taos, NM to Lee Vining, CA and met Jesus Christ of Nazareth on the shore of Mono Lake, 16 Mar 81.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #124 January 23, 2010 Quote .... You live in Germany. No validity. Your replies to Great Britain and Germany do explain a lot. Picayunish at its best. Jesus Christ, how can someone live like that. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #125 January 23, 2010 Quote Quote .... You live in Germany. No validity. Your replies to Great Britain and Germany do explain a lot. Picayunish at its best. Sort of like your replies to JR, Ron and myself, nicht wahr? Quote Jesus Christ, how can someone live like that. Yes, how DARE he not follow YOUR standards?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
