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Some of us judge people by factors other than race, religion, etc. Rather, we judge people by their actions and words.
I invite you to join us. It's actually a fun place to be.
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QuoteAH-nold was involved in politics for twenty years before he ran. He also showed himself to be successful at more than acting. Planet Hollywood was very successful before he sold his shares. He also did well in his weightlifting career.
I completely understand, I actually know a bit of his history. I was grouping him as an actor-turned-politician, not so much as the "no experience" portion of the previous statement. I was referencing more towards the, now considered, classic approach. Movie star, light politics, governor of California then a White House bid. Although, he has one up and one down. Up is that he married a Kennedy, down is that pesky constitutional law and birth place...
Although I do agree with another poster in this thread that Smith has kept a clean past, as far as we know in the public. That and I agree that even his music career was kept clean. I would suspect that by now, if he wasn't living a "clean life" that something would have popped up by now.
--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."
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It's not going to change. Like Presidents in the last 2 years of their two terms, everyone knows he's soon gone and he loses considerable power.
I was not aware that he is subject to term limits. Are you sure that his first term counts as he was first elected in a recall election and not a regular one.
Regardless I my comment about judging pols overall performance while they are still in office. The stature of Richard Nixon has risen considerably since he left office.
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QuoteWell, I guess he couldn't possibly be a worst president then what we have now!
Whenever I see anyone make such a blanket statement I write their opinion off.
1. Because if you forgot what the country was like when he took over it tell me you have a selective memory and your opinion is not dependent on the facts
2. If you are aware of what shape the country was in then you have extremely unrealistic goals if you expected every thing to be fixed in one year
3. I find that the very people who call this president bad are the ones who are not offering any solutions other then being a wall that’s stops any thing he wants to do.
Seriously how could you not see that? if you don’t like the guy for no reason great your opinion, but please don’t try to make it seem like he is the one fucking every thing up. It was fucked up before he got there. Every thing he has tried to do to fix it has been stopped by the republicans, and the weak democrats.
Why do I react this way to one statement. I have noticed when bullshit is repeated over and over again it becomes facts to some no matter how illogical the thought process might be.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
QuoteSeriously how could you not see that?
Funny, when I see elitist comments like this, I write that person's opinion off.
--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."
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Regardless I my comment about judging pols overall performance while they are still in office. The stature of Richard Nixon has risen considerably since he left office.
Nixon's status has risen, but I think in this case it's an example of memories fading and people tending to remember the good rather than the scummy aspects of the guy most deserving of impeachment in Presidential history.
Unless Arnold can pass a long term change to how Sacramento operates, I can't identify any signature actions he's taken, so there's not much upside to find. At best he could be seemed a decent firefighting in the towering inferno of CA budgetary woes.
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If basing your opinion on facts is elitist and that is all you can come up with shouldn’t you reevaluate your position?
Was any of the things I mentioned incorrect?
Sorry if the facts don’t fit what you want
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
It's not going to change. Like Presidents in the last 2 years of their two terms, everyone knows he's soon gone and he loses considerable power.
I largely believe in the approach he wanted to take, which would prevent the state from ramping up spending on the revenue up cycles, but it's been a hard sell and he's already tried twice.
Just about anyone would have failed to do so (and Davis wouldn't have even tried), but many successful politicians were merely lucky ones, presiding over the good times. "Bad ones" may have merely been there during the bad times. But life isn't fair.
Even though his party refused to consider taxes and the other party refused to seriously consider cutting the spending, he's the one that is supposed to make them come together. Thanks to term limits, it doesn't happen. No incentive to compromise.
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