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Quotethe Christians who post here become embroiled in discussion explaining over and over the most minute detail of a Scripture that seems clear to us but not to the opposing reader.
That's because you've studied the subject matter to a comparatively advanced level of proficiency. Now you have to discuss it with people who have not. I have to do this all the time when I need to explain legal issues to lay clients. I have to strike a very careful balance - if I use too much technical jargon ("mumbo jumbo") or get overly-detailed, their eyes glaze over, and if I talk to them like they're clueless, they view it as condescension and (rightly) resent it; either way, I've lost my audience.
The key is to be clear, concise, direct and use terms common to both speaker and audience. Like any other, it's a skill that takes practice. (You'll recall I was coaching Ryno on exactly that in that other thread a couple days ago.)
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QuoteQuotethe Christians who post here become embroiled in discussion explaining over and over the most minute detail of a Scripture that seems clear to us but not to the opposing reader.
That's because you've studied the subject matter to a comparatively advanced level of proficiency. Now you have to discuss it with people who have not. I have to do this all the time when I need to explain legal issues to lay clients. I have to strike a very careful balance - if I use too much technical jargon ("mumbo jumbo") or get overly-detailed, their eyes glaze over, and if I talk to them like they're clueless, they view it as condescension and (rightly) resent it; either way, I've lost my audience.
The key is to be clear, concise, direct and use terms common to both speaker and audience. Like any other, it's a skill that takes practice. (You'll recall I was coaching Ryno on exactly that in that other thread a couple days ago.)
I understand what you are saying and I agree with you. Many times this forum becomes egocentric for my therapy. Probably time for another break.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
QuoteI think you over-estimate the necessity of religious faith as a necessary prerequisite to seeing and deriving value out of certain religious scriptures
And... we think you greatly underestimate the power of the Holy Spirit. I know I did. The whole point of the Gospel is not to teach us righteousness, but to give us righteousness. What you may not understand is the difference between the two.
What can a man do to be considered perfectly righteous before God? How many atonements would there have to be for certain sins? What type of person would I have to wait to be before I can find a relationship with God? The truth is that those in Christ are sinners, just like you, but, we dont want to be, and therefore we persevere in that truth. Others may see it as we are missing out, im okay with that believe me, because I know that what i get in return for my desire to grow in God far outweighs anything I ever got in sin.
So, continue to take what you want out of the Gospel, but just understand that it may be your "staunch atheist" (your example) who is really missing out on its true gift.
"We didn't start the fire"
But, but, Quade! Look what were teaching them?
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Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama
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