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Ron, the following is not an attack. You're bright and articulate; but unfortunately, when you face a debater who is particularly challenging to you, you all too frequently revert to the ad hominem, i.e., you deftly start playing the player and not the ball. Since, as you point out, this is Sunday, and a good day for serious reflection, maybe this would be a good day for you to be introspective and honestly reflect on why you feel the need to do that.
I'm back. Something I feel the need to share with you as a difference in our professional tactics. An assumption that I have concerning your field is that you have to debate based on facts. You are facing an opponent who is like minded. The court decides who did the best job.
In my field, we are trained not to debate issues with a client. Our job is to ask questions regarding the client. If we start to debate the client we build defenses and make it a win-lose game.
Motivational Enhancement Techniques emphasize rolling with resistance by focusing questions back on the client. As an esteemed colleague of mine used to say, "I'm not paid to give you answers. I'm paid to ask you questions."
It is difficult to use MET fully in the forum because of the lack of full range physical cues.
I do appreciate you calling me to task because, as I said earlier, I get wacky sometimes. However, I pretty much always am going to be outside the boundaries and definitions of your game.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
jakee 1,563
QuoteIn my field, we are trained not to debate issues with a client. Our job is to ask questions regarding the client.
Newsflash: This isn't your job.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
RonD1120 62
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(And I think we can all infer a lot about you from the way you interact on these forums, but what we can infer is perhaps best left unsaid!)
Say anything you want. The moderators have made it pretty clear they will uphold your position. And me, I couldn't care less.
I stated in another thread, this is fantasy land.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
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QuoteQuoteIn my field, we are trained not to debate issues with a client. Our job is to ask questions regarding the client.
Newsflash: This isn't your job.
I wasn't talking to you.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
jakee 1,563
QuoteSay anything you want. The moderators have made it pretty clear they will uphold your position.
Oh bloody hell, you're not going to start into the whole poor oppressed majority thing, are you?
What is it about being part of a dominant religion that makes so many people so paranoid?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
jakee 1,563
QuoteQuoteQuoteIn my field, we are trained not to debate issues with a client. Our job is to ask questions regarding the client.
Newsflash: This isn't your job.
I wasn't talking to you.
You are now. So;
Newsflash: This isn't your job.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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What is it about being part of a dominant religion that makes so many people so paranoid?
You simply do not understand written words.
I am not paranoid. I do not care what you say. This is entertainment. It is not my job. It is my passtime. It is a fantasy arena. I hope you can understand me.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
jakee 1,563
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What is it about being part of a dominant religion that makes so many people so paranoid?
You simply do not understand written words.
I am not paranoid. I do not care what you say.
Apparently you don't understand too good yourself. Surely you noticed that I was replying to the "the moderators are against me!" part of your post?
QuoteThis is entertainment. It is not my job.
So why are you defending your conduct by talking about how you work at your job?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Apparently you don't understand too good yourself. Surely you noticed that I was replying to the "the moderators are against me!" part of your post?
I did not say "the moderators are against me." Those are your words. I said they will support you, implying that the liberals will stick together.
QuoteThis is entertainment. It is not my job.
So why are you defending your conduct by talking about how you work at your job?
There is no defense for contempt prior to investigation. There is no defense for revelation knowledge.
Is it your job to evaluate the Christian behavior, ethics, customs or traditions of the U.S.A.?
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
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QuoteI did not say "the moderators are against me." Those are your words. I said they will support you, implying that the liberals will stick together.
Has it ever occurred to you that when you label someone as "liberal" or "secular" or anything really, that means your position is weak? That you're no longer able to argue from facts, but are instead trying to dismiss the person entirely. You're trying to shut down the conversation and maintain an egotistical advantage instead of a reasoned one?
Just something to think about.
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jakee 1,563
QuoteI did not say "the moderators are against me." Those are your words. I said they will support you, implying that the liberals will stick together.
Exactly. That's basically what paranoia is, seeing all that collusion where it really doesn't exist.
QuoteThere is no defense for contempt prior to investigation. There is no defense for revelation knowledge.
Is it your job to evaluate the Christian behavior, ethics, customs or traditions of the U.S.A.?
You've lost track again. You were talking about the manner in which you post, not what you post about.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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QuoteQuoteI did not say "the moderators are against me." Those are your words. I said they will support you, implying that the liberals will stick together.
Has it ever occurred to you that when you label someone as "liberal" or "secular" or anything really, that means your position is weak? That you're no longer able to argue from facts, but are instead trying to dismiss the person entirely. You're trying to shut down the conversation and maintain an egotistical advantage instead of a reasoned one?
Just something to think about.
Thank you. That is good advice.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
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Is it your job to evaluate the Christian behavior, ethics, customs or traditions of the U.S.A.?
You've lost track again. You were talking about the manner in which you post, not what you post about.
I thought you were questioning me about my job vs. playing on DZ.com.
I have to go now. We are headed for a neighborhood social.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
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Ron, Jakee - cut it out.
jakee 1,563
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Is it your job to evaluate the Christian behavior, ethics, customs or traditions of the U.S.A.?
You've lost track again. You were talking about the manner in which you post, not what you post about.
I thought you were questioning me about my job vs. playing on DZ.com.
Right. Now look back at the post where you brought up your job, and look at what you were talking about in that post.
Not that I should even bother trying to straighten you out on the course of this conversation, since you'll never answer any questions that trouble you anyway.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Right. Now look back at the post where you brought up your job, and look at what you were talking about in that post.
Not that I should even bother trying to straighten you out on the course of this conversation, since you'll never answer any questions that trouble you anyway.
I refer you to post #322. Please restate your question.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
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QuotePanel approves Bible classes for public schools
AP Associated Press- 2/21/2010 4:25:00 AM
FRANKFORT, KY - Kentucky may follow the lead of Texas and other states in allowing Bible classes to be taught in public schools.
Kentucky's Senate Education Committee has unanimously approved legislation that would effectively return the Bible to the state's classrooms.
Democratic state Sen. David Boswell of Owensboro is sponsoring the legislation, which he said is modeled after a measure approved by Texas lawmakers some two years ago.
Boswell said he believes the legislation is constitutional because the Bible will be taught from a literary perspective, not a religious one. He said it calls for teaching, not preaching, the Bible.
The proposed Bible courses would be offered as electives, meaning schools could choose whether to offer them as a social studies credit and students could decide whether to take them.
Now there's a plan I like.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
Particularly amusing coming from you today, Ron, given the point I've made to you about your reply to jclalor.
And I'm not sure exactly what is semantic about my response, I'm really not a Secular Humanist! If I called you a Catholic would it be semantic games for you to point out that you're not?
Hang about, you said that everyone who does not believe in a metaphysical higher power places their hope in Secular Humanism, but now you're saying that I've got no hope at all! Which is it to be, and what on earth am I supposed to be hoping for anyway?
From my profile? What on earth could you get from my profile? The only non-skydiving information on there is that I'm from the UK and my occupation is 'hobo'. It's quite a stretch to glean anything from their, isn't it?
What if I was to tell you that I'm actually (shock, horror) not a hobo, I work for a politician (and not even a liberal one, in UK terms). Does that get me more hope points?
(And I think we can all infer a lot about you from the way you interact on these forums, but what we can infer is perhaps best left unsaid!)
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