Props to President Obama Where Props Are Due

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_gop

I didn't get to see much of this, and I've only caught bits on the news overall, but this was good stuff, and it was sorely needed.

I'm glad that the Republican leadership made the offer, and was surprised, yet pleased that the President accepted. I would have liked them to have a portion that was not covered in the press so that they could have engaged in candor without the eye on them the whole time (it wasn't legislation being written after all).

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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Ya know . . . it ran for a number of minutes longer if a person wasn't watching FoxNews. They cut away from it when it started going bad for some Republicans.

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Ya know . . . it ran for a number of minutes longer if a person wasn't watching FoxNews. They cut away from it when it started going bad for some Republicans.

I'm traveling and believe it or not, the hotel I am staying at does not have Fox News in their line up. I've been watching clips on CNN. It was a good butting of the heads.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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Ya know . . . it ran for a number of minutes longer if a person wasn't watching FoxNews. They cut away from it when it started going bad for some Republicans.

I'm traveling and believe it or not, the hotel I am staying at does not have Fox News in their line up. I've been watching clips on CNN. It was a good butting of the heads.

Oh, I'm not claiming anything otherwise or that you even watch FoxNews, but the fact remains . . . they cut out early. By way of contrast, MSNBC currently has Rachel and Keith doing endless recaps.

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the hotel I am staying at does not have Fox News in their line up. I've been watching clips on CNN.

Ah! So you've had a chance to de-toxify! See how much better you feel?

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the hotel I am staying at does not have Fox News in their line up. I've been watching clips on CNN.

Ah! So you've had a chance to de-toxify! See how much better you feel?

I don't have cable at home, so I'm clean of the "free radicals" per se. I do listen to Fox on Sirius, but not for any extended period of time, and the rest of my news...well all the various feeds out there.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_gop

I didn't get to see much of this, and I've only caught bits on the news overall, but this was good stuff, and it was sorely needed.

I'm glad that the Republican leadership made the offer, and was surprised, yet pleased that the President accepted.

Apparently they were surprised too. They expected (and apparently wanted) him to refuse.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_gop

I didn't get to see much of this, and I've only caught bits on the news overall, but this was good stuff, and it was sorely needed.

I'm glad that the Republican leadership made the offer, and was surprised, yet pleased that the President accepted. I would have liked them to have a portion that was not covered in the press so that they could have engaged in candor without the eye on them the whole time (it wasn't legislation being written after all).

WHY??????????

We have a rigth to hear every word of what they say!

BUT, as it is, they did cut the camera's!

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Obama spars with GOP, FOX CUTS LIVE FEED

Friday, January 29th, 2010

A combative President Obama sparred back and forth with Republicans at a House GOP retreat in Baltimore Friday, telling House members they had backed themselves into a corner by painting his administration as being radical.

It was an unusual question-and-answer session that some observers have compared to Question Period in the British House of Commons, when the prime minister takes questions from opposition lawmakers. And even some conservative commentators admit Obama won the debate and gave himself a much-needed image boost.

Invited by the GOP to attend their annual conference, the president accepted but surprised Republicans with a request to allow cameras into the conference room, Politico reports. The GOP agreed.

Weaving between pleas for bipartisanship and direct criticism of GOP politicking, the president took Republicans to task for voting against last year's stimulus package and then attending "ribbon cuttings" for projects funded by it.

"A lot of you have gone to ribbon cuttings for the same projects that you voted against," Obama said. "I say all this not to re-litigate the past, but it's simply to state, the component parts of the recovery act are consistent with what many of you say are important things to do."

Obama touched repeatedly on the theme that, in opposing his policies, Republicans at times oppose things that are in line with their ideology. Among those things, Obama argued, are his proposed fee on banks and a freeze on discretionary spending.

"Join me" in passing the spending freeze, Obama asked the GOP, adding there's "nothing in this proposal that runs contrary to the ideological predisposition of this caucus."

On the proposed bank fee, designed to recoup some of the money the US government lost in bailing out the banks in 2008, Obama told House Minority Leader John Boehner: "If you listen to the American people, John, they’ll tell you they want their money back."

And in very frank language, Obama warned the GOP they are painting themselves into a political corner by using strong rhetoric in opposing White House ideas.

"If the way these issues are being presented by the Republicans is that this is some wild-eyed plot to impose huge government in every aspect of our lives, what happens is you guys don't have a lot of room to negotiate with me," the president said. "The fact is that many of you, if you voted with the administration on something, are politically vulnerable with your own base in your own party. You've given yourselves very little room to work in a bipartisan fashion because what you've told your constituents is this guy is doing all kinds of crazy stuff that's gonna destroy America."

The president also chastised Republicans for presenting health care reform as "some Bolshevik plot." But he spent a considerable amount of time arguing for bipartisanship, and for his own credentials as an open-minded leader who can work across party lines.

"I am not an ideologue," Obama said, adding, "These are serious times and what's required of all us is to do what's right for our country even if it's not best for our politics. ... There may be better things than poll numbers."

Even some conservative commentators conceded that Obama won the day.

"Obama did well, got the better of GOP today," the Weekly Standard's Michael Goldfarb tweeted. "Fortunately, we got the better of him the last six months or so. And health care is dead."

Daniel Foster at the National Review argued it made both sides look good.

"It would be hard to argue the exchange is anything but a plus-plus for Obama and the GOP," he wrote. "Both sides emerged from it looking as if, contra the public's greatest fears, they are serious about the deficit and health-care reform. ... [T]he Republicans went a long way toward showing that they are hardly a party of obstructionists with no solutions to offer Americans."

UPDATE: Some commentators are pointing to the fact that Fox News cut off the live feed of Obama's debate half-way through as proof that the president got the better of the GOP on Friday.

"Perhaps the most telling aspect of the speech reactions," writes David Weigel at the Washington Independent, is that "Fox News, alone among cable networks, cut away mid-broadcast and went to a newsless interview with Rep. Peter King (R-NY)."

NBC's Luke Russert offered more evidence that at least the GOP views it as a loss for their side.

"GOP aides telling me it was a mistake to allow cameras into Obama's QA with GOP members," Russert tweeted Friday. "Allowed BO to refute GOP for 1.5 hours on TV."

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_gop

I didn't get to see much of this, and I've only caught bits on the news overall, but this was good stuff, and it was sorely needed.

I'm glad that the Republican leadership made the offer, and was surprised, yet pleased that the President accepted. I would have liked them to have a portion that was not covered in the press so that they could have engaged in candor without the eye on them the whole time (it wasn't legislation being written after all).

WHY??????????

We have a rigth to hear every word of what they say!

BUT, as it is, they did cut the camera's!

That's not necessarily true. There is a long established tradition and expectation that private discussions are quite important, and as I noted, this wasn't about specific legislation and it was not on the floor of Congress.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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I didn't get to see much of this

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Ya know . . . it ran for a number of minutes longer if a person wasn't watching FoxNews

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I'm traveling and believe it or not, the hotel I am staying at does not have Fox News

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Oh, I'm not claiming anything otherwise or that you even watch FoxNews,

Damn, son. You're going to trash your transmission slamming into reverse like that.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Scroll up a couple of posts and read the article.

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Scroll up a couple of posts and read the article.

As if........ duh.... that is like... so not going to ...like happen.

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I didn't reference the article-as far as the reported situation goes. I'm loving that the Prez is bucking up, showing a little bite and backbone. Hopefully he's on the path to becoming a leader.

My comment, however, was just on your.....but, but, but, I really didn't say what I was inferring-backpedaling.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_gop

I didn't get to see much of this, and I've only caught bits on the news overall, but this was good stuff, and it was sorely needed.

I'm glad that the Republican leadership made the offer, and was surprised, yet pleased that the President accepted. I would have liked them to have a portion that was not covered in the press so that they could have engaged in candor without the eye on them the whole time (it wasn't legislation being written after all).

WHY??????????

We have a rigth to hear every word of what they say!

BUT, as it is, they did cut the camera's!

You're assuming that a news station is a publicly owned entity that somehow has an obligation to what your "rights" are. That is not the case. They are not publicly owned and have no obligation to provide you what you think your "rights" are. They answer to the ratings and what makes them money, not their obligation to the public.

Blues,
Nathan

If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100130/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_gop

I didn't get to see much of this, and I've only caught bits on the news overall, but this was good stuff, and it was sorely needed.

I'm glad that the Republican leadership made the offer, and was surprised, yet pleased that the President accepted. I would have liked them to have a portion that was not covered in the press so that they could have engaged in candor without the eye on them the whole time (it wasn't legislation being written after all).

WHY??????????

We have a rigth to hear every word of what they say!

BUT, as it is, they did cut the camera's!

You're assuming that a news station is a publicly owned entity that somehow has an obligation to what your "rights" are. That is not the case. They are not publicly owned and have no obligation to provide you what you think your "rights" are. They answer to the ratings and what makes them money, not their obligation to the public.

I agree in principle; but then let's acknowledge that Fox is not really a news station, it's a propaganda station. Journalistic ethics would have dictated that the viewers would have wanted to see the entire exchange. Instead, Fox made the decision to cut away - once it became obvious that Obama was giving as good as he was getting - because staying with the camera feed went contrary to Fox's biased slant. You can bet that if Obama wasn't doing well, they would NOT have cut away. Fox is a bunch of whiny, cowardly pussies.

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John Stewart's take had me laughing very loudly.

Blues,
Dave

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Yes I watched it as well. It was funny and at the same times sad. Some of the questions were based in fairytale. I can’t believe we have leaders that are that unaware of the facts yet have such strong opinions.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain