kallend 2,099 #101 February 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteThis article says he was sent for treatment, and that by Federal law it should make him incapable to buy a gun. Incorrect - GCA 68 references a person "who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution". Neither apply in Cho's case. Show's there's a serious problem, doesn't it?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #102 February 18, 2010 Quote Incorrect - GCA 68 references a person "who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution". Neither apply in Cho's case. The special justice’s order in late 2005 that directed Mr. Cho to seek outpatient treatment and declared him to be mentally ill and an imminent danger to himself fits the federal criteria and should have immediately disqualified him, said Richard J. Bonnie, chairman of the Supreme Court of Virginia’s Commission on Mental Health Law Reform. Sorry, dude, your opinion weights much less than that.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #103 February 19, 2010 QuoteQuote Incorrect - GCA 68 references a person "who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution". Neither apply in Cho's case. The special justice’s order in late 2005 that directed Mr. Cho to seek outpatient treatment and declared him to be mentally ill and an imminent danger to himself fits the federal criteria and should have immediately disqualified him, said Richard J. Bonnie, chairman of the Supreme Court of Virginia’s Commission on Mental Health Law Reform. The Virginia Mental Health Commission can make all the statements they want, it still doesn't change GCA 68. QuoteSorry, dude, your opinion weights much less than that. Providing a quote from a public law is DATA, not opinion. Saying "I think all guns should be outlawed" is OPINION, not data. I know that you're still struggling with the difference, but you're just going to have to catch up with the rest of the class - we can't keep explaining the same thing over and over to you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #104 February 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Incorrect - GCA 68 references a person "who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution". Neither apply in Cho's case. The special justice’s order in late 2005 that directed Mr. Cho to seek outpatient treatment and declared him to be mentally ill and an imminent danger to himself fits the federal criteria and should have immediately disqualified him, said Richard J. Bonnie, chairman of the Supreme Court of Virginia’s Commission on Mental Health Law Reform. The Virginia Mental Health Commission can make all the statements they want, it still doesn't change GCA 68. . Thank you for making my point AGAIN, that there is a serious problem that needs to be fixed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #105 February 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Incorrect - GCA 68 references a person "who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution". Neither apply in Cho's case. The special justice’s order in late 2005 that directed Mr. Cho to seek outpatient treatment and declared him to be mentally ill and an imminent danger to himself fits the federal criteria and should have immediately disqualified him, said Richard J. Bonnie, chairman of the Supreme Court of Virginia’s Commission on Mental Health Law Reform. The Virginia Mental Health Commission can make all the statements they want, it still doesn't change GCA 68. . Thank you for making my point AGAIN, that there is a serious problem that needs to be fixed. Perhaps you should do something more than whine about it, then.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #106 February 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Incorrect - GCA 68 references a person "who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution". Neither apply in Cho's case. The special justice’s order in late 2005 that directed Mr. Cho to seek outpatient treatment and declared him to be mentally ill and an imminent danger to himself fits the federal criteria and should have immediately disqualified him, said Richard J. Bonnie, chairman of the Supreme Court of Virginia’s Commission on Mental Health Law Reform. The Virginia Mental Health Commission can make all the statements they want, it still doesn't change GCA 68. . Thank you for making my point AGAIN, that there is a serious problem that needs to be fixed. Perhaps you should do something more than whine about it, then. First the deniers have to be enlightened.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #107 February 19, 2010 QuoteQuotePerhaps you should do something more than whine about it, then. First the deniers have to be enlightened. We keep trying that, but you and George can't seem to get the idea through your heads...we'll keep trying, though.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #108 February 19, 2010 Quote Providing a quote from a public law is DATA, not opinion. Your OPINION that GCA68 did not apply in Cho's case is not DATA. And it contradicts with the opinion of Richard J. Bonnie, who is the director of the University of Virginia Institute on Law, Psychiatry and Public Policy.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #109 February 19, 2010 QuoteQuote Providing a quote from a public law is DATA, not opinion. Your OPINION that GCA68 did not apply in Cho's case is not DATA. And it contradicts with the opinion of Richard J. Bonnie, who is the director of the University of Virginia Institute on Law, Psychiatry and Public Policy. Not a judge? Sooooooo, that is his opinion then?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #110 February 19, 2010 QuoteNot a judge? Sooooooo, that is his opinion then? The judge already "declared him declared him to be mentally ill and an imminent danger to himself".* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #111 February 20, 2010 QuoteQuote Providing a quote from a public law is DATA, not opinion. Your OPINION that GCA68 did not apply in Cho's case is not DATA. And it contradicts with the opinion of Richard J. Bonnie, who is the director of the University of Virginia Institute on Law, Psychiatry and Public Policy. Incorrect, again - you see, it is a FACT that Cho was not declared a mental defective, and it is a FACT that he was not committed to a mental institution.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #112 February 20, 2010 Quote Incorrect, again - you see, it is a FACT that Cho was not declared a mental defective The article says he was declared mentally ill (by the court), and that Richard J. Bonnie says this should have qualified as "mentally defective" according to GCA68. So that's your opinion against Richard J. Bonnie opinion.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #113 February 20, 2010 QuoteQuote Incorrect, again - you see, it is a FACT that Cho was not declared a mental defective The article says he was declared mentally ill (by the court), and that Richard J. Bonnie says this should have qualified as "mentally defective" according to GCA68. So that's your opinion against Richard J. Bonnie opinion. Um, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #114 February 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Providing a quote from a public law is DATA, not opinion. Your OPINION that GCA68 did not apply in Cho's case is not DATA. And it contradicts with the opinion of Richard J. Bonnie, who is the director of the University of Virginia Institute on Law, Psychiatry and Public Policy. Incorrect, again - you see, it is a FACT that Cho was not declared a mental defective, and it is a FACT that he was not committed to a mental institution. It's also a fact that he WAS a nutter and killed 32 people, clearly indicating that the system in place is incapable of dealing with the reality of dangerous nutters having easy access to guns..... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #115 February 20, 2010 QuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #116 February 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his. So you admit it is opinion That is a start"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #117 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his. So you admit it is opinion That is a start So you admit mnealtx got it wrong. That's a start.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #118 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his. So you admit it is opinion That is a start So you admit mnealtx got it wrong. That's a start. You are the master twister my friend"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #119 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his. So you admit it is opinion That is a start So you admit mnealtx got it wrong. That's a start. You are the master twister my friend [url "http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=shooting+%22history+of+mental+illness%22"]Take a look.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #120 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his. So you admit it is opinion That is a start So you admit mnealtx got it wrong. That's a start. You are the master twister my friend [url "http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=shooting+%22history+of+mental+illness%22"]Take a look. Your point related to my post? Never mind as I know you dont have one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #121 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his. So you admit it is opinion That is a start So you admit mnealtx got it wrong. That's a start. You are the master twister my friend Take a look. Your point related to my post? Never mind as I know you dont have one Your inability to comprehend doesn't mean there was nothing to comprehend.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #122 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUm, no - that's the language of GCA 68 against Bonnie. Yes, that's your interpretation of GCA (i.e. your opinion) versus his. So you admit it is opinion That is a start So you admit mnealtx got it wrong. That's a start. You are the master twister my friend Take a look. Your point related to my post? Never mind as I know you dont have one Your inability to comprehend doesn't mean there was nothing to comprehend. OOoooooooooooooK Opps Again I thought this was your native language"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #123 February 22, 2010 QuoteIt's also a fact that he WAS a nutter and killed 32 people, clearly indicating that the system in place is incapable of dealing with the reality of dangerous nutters having easy access to guns.. It's also a fact that he WAS a nutter and killed 32 people, clearly indicating that the system in place is incapable of dealing with the reality of dangerous nutters having easy access to disarmed victims.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #124 February 22, 2010 QuoteTake a look. [url "http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000922----000-.html"]Take a look - specifically where it says: (d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; So, you may now apologize for insinuating that I did not have the law correct.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,099 #125 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteTake a look. [url "http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000922----000-.html"]Take a look - specifically where it says: (d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; So, you may now apologize for insinuating that I did not have the law correct. Straw man. Your problem is not that you don't know the law, it's that you defend an ineffective law; one that allows nutters like Cho easy access to guns.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
