hwt 0 #1 February 23, 2010 Here is Obama telling George Step. that he hardly is involved in Acorn 7 months ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxwSUJ0iahI Recently uncovered video shows differently. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPJwu3wUcU&feature=player_embedded I don't believe anything he says anymore.This isn't change that we can believe in. Now we find out that Acorn and s.e.i.u. are connected. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/61715 Andy Sterns and s.e.i.u. have visited the white house more then any other visitor.Just how deep does the corruption go? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #2 February 23, 2010 i don't think it matters. for the most part, people have pretty much decided where they stand. there may be a few fence jumpers here and there, but for the people that support him, this isn't going to change their minds. for the people who don;t support him, this isn't going to change their minds. it may pop back up during the general election in 2012, but for now it means almost nothing. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #3 February 23, 2010 GASP!! politicians lie?!? seriously?? I'm shocked!!-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #4 February 23, 2010 Quote GASP!! politicians lie?!? seriously?? I'm shocked!! Yeah, when did this suddenly start happening?? "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #5 February 23, 2010 QuoteNow we find out that Acorn and s.e.i.u. are connected. That sounds like ASC, Igovincent, Thrill Planet. Adventure Sports.............You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #6 February 23, 2010 I think there was a little bit of Obama playing to the crowd there. He was speaking to an ACORN contingent so he probably overstated his relationship in that speech and later understated the relationship when things went to crap. Neither was entirely true but I doubt that his position was extreme in either direction. I haven't seen him HAVE a strong opinion of his own yet.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #7 February 24, 2010 QuoteI think there was a little bit of Obama playing to the crowd there. He was speaking to an ACORN contingent so he probably overstated his relationship in that speech and later understated the relationship when things went to crap. Neither was entirely true but I doubt that his position was extreme in either direction. I haven't seen him HAVE a strong opinion of his own yet. the question raised here I think is how many associations has he lied about to be able to get elected? and since he is a liar can we trust him to do what is right for the country or will he serve his beliefs even though he says he wants to do what is good for america? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #8 February 24, 2010 All humans serve their beliefs. Beliefs lead to personal principles (rules), principles drive behaviors. No way around that, we all act out according to what we believe to be true. Or put another way, each person's life is the perfect manifestation of what they believe to be true." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #9 February 24, 2010 QuoteAll humans serve their beliefs. Beliefs lead to personal principles (rules), principles drive behaviors. No way around that, we all act out according to what we believe to be true. Or put another way, each person's life is the perfect manifestation of what they believe to be true. that is fine and you are correct, but Obama was elected for what those that voted for him thought he stood for, now we are finding out he lied about things that he said, things that many used to form their opinions to what he believed in. Therefore many voted for him but didn't get what he campaigned on. Obama can have the views and beliefs he wants, but he snowed many that voted for him and that is wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #10 February 24, 2010 Quote that is fine and you are correct, but Obama was elected for what those that voted for him thought he stood for, now we are finding out he lied about things that he said, things that many used to form their opinions to what he believed in. Therefore many voted for him but didn't get what he campaigned on. Obama can have the views and beliefs he wants, but he snowed many that voted for him and that is wrong. I'm not sure I have a whole lot of sympathy for anyone who believes anything a politician says during an election campaign. Politicians lie. All of them. Both parties."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #11 February 24, 2010 QuoteQuote that is fine and you are correct, but Obama was elected for what those that voted for him thought he stood for, now we are finding out he lied about things that he said, things that many used to form their opinions to what he believed in. Therefore many voted for him but didn't get what he campaigned on. Obama can have the views and beliefs he wants, but he snowed many that voted for him and that is wrong. yep you are correct, but everyone was pissed about what they saw happen under the last couple years of Bush and wanted something different and that is what they thought they would get with Obama was something different. What they got was bush on steroids and a far left agenda. I'm not sure I have a whole lot of sympathy for anyone who believes anything a politician says during an election campaign. Politicians lie. All of them. Both parties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 February 25, 2010 QuotePoliticians lie. All of them. Both parties. +1Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #13 February 25, 2010 Quote yep you are correct, but everyone was pissed about what they saw happen under the last couple years of Bush and wanted something different and that is what they thought they would get with Obama was something different. What they got was bush on steroids and a far left agenda. The problem is (and it applies to a lot of situations, not just here) that too many people think "If A is bad, then B must be good". They hate A so much that they blind themselves to the faults of B."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
