Republican scumbags in the Senate

[funjumper101 15]

The scumbags caved.

The record use of filibusters to block all 290 plus bills passed by the House may be coming to an end. This egregious and irresponsible misuse of the Senate rules to block EVERYTHING by filibustering every item, including routine matters, is why almost NOTHING has been accomplished by Congress in this session.
The Rescums have no shame. The Rescums pitched a bitch in 2005 and threatened the "Nuclear Option" when the Dems blocked judicial appointments by Shrub, using the filibuster as it was designed. The Rescums are massively abusing the rules, so much so that even Faux News is starting to call them on it.

All the right wing folks that support these clowns should do a bit of self education on the reality of what has happened for the past year, in comparison to previous Congresses. Once you know the facts, gather up your pitchfotks and torches and demand a stop to the severe abuse of the filibuster.

The good news is "Senate Votes 70-28 to Approve $15 Billion Jobs Bill", "Thirteen Republicans joined 55 Democrats and two independents voting in favor". It is high time that the Rescums got out of the way of the nation's business.

Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums? Why not?
Blithering ignorance is the only logical explanation...

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Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums? Why not?
Blithering ignorance is the only logical explanation...

Wow, your well articulated rant is going to bring 'dem righties to their knees!!!
I think the above quote more than anything identifies problems with certain viewpoints......

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums? Why not?
Blithering ignorance is the only logical explanation...

Wow, your well articulated rant is going to bring 'dem righties to their knees!!!
I think the above quote more than anything identifies problems with certain viewpoints......

The data are very clear, the GOP is using the filibuster (or threat of filibuster) more frequently now than at any previous time in the nation's history. In fact Sen. McConnell even announced that this would be their strategy.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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The data are very clear, the GOP is using the filibuster (or threat of filibuster) more frequently now than at any previous time in the nation's history.

So is this a bad thing about the GOP? Or is it evidence that the Democrats didn't do what was necessary during the Bush Administration? They could have forced a timetable in Iraq if they really wanted to, or at least tried to by obstructing all other legislation if they didn't want to look like they were leaving the soldiers out to dry.

Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything.

[Andy9o8 2]

Generally speaking, it does seem that Congressional Republicans are better at political chess, and poker, than the Democrats.

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Have you ever noticed it's easier to obstruct than to accomplish? I think this is true not just in Congress, but the real world. When I want to do something that requires the cooperation of somebody, it seems like any person on the planet can shoot it down. Everyone from a minimum wage office drone all the way up the pipeline can say no and as a result, a lot of opportunities die before they can get to the final person that can say yes.

I think the Republicans are willing to go the extra mile to obstruct. They simply don't seem to care that it makes them look bullheaded. In fact, they seem to wear it as a badge of honor.

The Democrats, on the other hand, attempt to maintain the illusion of doing the right thing and are afraid of looking like they're not cooperating.

To me that is the glaring difference in why the Republican issues frequently move forward and the Democrat ones are so easily stalled by just a hint of obstruction.

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To me that is the glaring difference in why the Republican issues frequently move forward and the Democrat ones are so easily stalled by just a hint of obstruction.

I think the traditional difference in party cohesion is also relevant here. While Republicans whine about RINOs, they still tend to stick together. Some Democrats in San Francisco think Pelosi is a right wing devil.

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Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums? Why not?
Blithering ignorance is the only logical explanation...

Wow, your well articulated rant is going to bring 'dem righties to their knees!!!
I think the above quote more than anything identifies problems with certain viewpoints......

No.. they do that just fine after a little "foot tapping"

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No.. they do that just fine after a little "foot tapping"

Nah, that would be stall tapping get your terms right....
I've had to work a couple of those details, ain't fun regardless of political affiliation...........

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[kallend 2,030]

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The data are very clear, the GOP is using the filibuster (or threat of filibuster) more frequently now than at any previous time in the nation's history.

So is this a bad thing about the GOP?

Just a factual observation. Whether it's good or bad depends on one's viewpoint.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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The data are very clear, the GOP is using the filibuster (or threat of filibuster) more frequently now than at any previous time in the nation's history.

So is this a bad thing about the GOP?

Just a factual observation. Whether it's good or bad depends on one's viewpoint.

Indeed, which is why I asked.

While it may be viewed as taking the higher road, at some point you have to stand up for yourself and play the same game as the other party. The GOP has never been made to pay for this behavior, so they have no reason to stop.

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When there is balance in government and the house and senate, then only the very important things that everyone can agree on get done. This is a good thing. It prevents runaway government and doesn't allow one side to run amok with their agenda.

[rushmc 23]

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The scumbags caved.

The record use of filibusters to block all 290 plus bills passed by the House may be coming to an end. This egregious and irresponsible misuse of the Senate rules to block EVERYTHING by filibustering every item, including routine matters, is why almost NOTHING has been accomplished by Congress in this session.
The Rescums have no shame. The Rescums pitched a bitch in 2005 and threatened the "Nuclear Option" when the Dems blocked judicial appointments by Shrub, using the filibuster as it was designed. The Rescums are massively abusing the rules, so much so that even Faux News is starting to call them on it.

All the right wing folks that support these clowns should do a bit of self education on the reality of what has happened for the past year, in comparison to previous Congresses. Once you know the facts, gather up your pitchfotks and torches and demand a stop to the severe abuse of the filibuster.

The good news is "Senate Votes 70-28 to Approve $15 Billion Jobs Bill", "Thirteen Republicans joined 55 Democrats and two independents voting in favor". It is high time that the Rescums got out of the way of the nation's business.

Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums? Why not?
Blithering ignorance is the only logical explanation...

The Constitution calls for an up or down vote for apointments. I think Obamas should get that as well.

Did you have as much of a problem with the filibuster when the R's had the Senate?

The tactic being called for today has no precedent. The Senate is working , for the most part, as the founders intended. Very very slow so bs does not get quickly pushed through by either side

And did you see this link in another thread?

In case you didn't

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dems-in-2005-51-vote-nuclear-option-is-arrogant-power-grab-against-the-founders-intent/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Generally speaking, it does seem that Congressional Republicans are better at political chess, and poker, than the Democrats.

Generally speaking, at this time, the Republicans have way more public support than the Dems

Was just a month ago the Dems did not need the R's.

what happened?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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When there is balance in government and the house and senate, then only the very important things that everyone can agree on get done. This is a good thing. It prevents runaway government and doesn't allow one side to run amok with their agenda.

Well put and as intended by the founders

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,008]

>Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums?

Do you feel any shame for supporting the asshole democrats? (or perhaps dimocrats or something)

[funjumper101 15]

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The scumbags caved.

The record use of filibusters to block all 290 plus bills passed by the House may be coming to an end. This egregious and irresponsible misuse of the Senate rules to block EVERYTHING by filibustering every item, including routine matters, is why almost NOTHING has been accomplished by Congress in this session.
The Rescums have no shame. The Rescums pitched a bitch in 2005 and threatened the "Nuclear Option" when the Dems blocked judicial appointments by Shrub, using the filibuster as it was designed. The Rescums are massively abusing the rules, so much so that even Faux News is starting to call them on it.

All the right wing folks that support these clowns should do a bit of self education on the reality of what has happened for the past year, in comparison to previous Congresses. Once you know the facts, gather up your pitchfotks and torches and demand a stop to the severe abuse of the filibuster.

The good news is "Senate Votes 70-28 to Approve $15 Billion Jobs Bill", "Thirteen Republicans joined 55 Democrats and two independents voting in favor". It is high time that the Rescums got out of the way of the nation's business.

Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums? Why not?
Blithering ignorance is the only logical explanation...

The Constitution calls for an up or down vote for apointments. I think Obamas should get that as well.

Did you have as much of a problem with the filibuster when the R's had the Senate?

The tactic being called for today has no precedent. The Senate is working , for the most part, as the founders intended. Very very slow so bs does not get quickly pushed through by either side

And did you see this link in another thread?

In case you didn't

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dems-in-2005-51-vote-nuclear-option-is-arrogant-power-grab-against-the-founders-intent/

In a completly unsurprising post, Marc reveals a breathtaking lack of knowlege of the history of the filibuster, the use of the filibuster, and the immensely dangerous misuse of the filibuster by the Rescums in the current senate session.

Perhaps you could read up on the use of the filibuster in recent times. Try 2005, for starters. Then read up on how many times the filibuster was invoked in the last 20 sessions. Then read up on how many times it has been invoked during THIS session.

Once you actually know what you are talking about, post again.

Maybe you could come up with a reasonable explanation as to why the senate is sitting on over 290 bills that have been passed by the house.
Bills that have been approved in the Hosue with a "yes" vote of over 400, in some cases. It is one thing to obstruct those bills that your party has actual objections to. It is a disgusting and despicable tactic to block EVERYTHING possible, even when the house rescums voted in favor of the bill.

This shit has got to stop.

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The scumbags caved.

The record use of filibusters to block all 290 plus bills passed by the House may be coming to an end. This egregious and irresponsible misuse of the Senate rules to block EVERYTHING by filibustering every item, including routine matters, is why almost NOTHING has been accomplished by Congress in this session.
The Rescums have no shame. The Rescums pitched a bitch in 2005 and threatened the "Nuclear Option" when the Dems blocked judicial appointments by Shrub, using the filibuster as it was designed. The Rescums are massively abusing the rules, so much so that even Faux News is starting to call them on it.

All the right wing folks that support these clowns should do a bit of self education on the reality of what has happened for the past year, in comparison to previous Congresses. Once you know the facts, gather up your pitchfotks and torches and demand a stop to the severe abuse of the filibuster.

The good news is "Senate Votes 70-28 to Approve $15 Billion Jobs Bill", "Thirteen Republicans joined 55 Democrats and two independents voting in favor". It is high time that the Rescums got out of the way of the nation's business.

Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums? Why not?
Blithering ignorance is the only logical explanation...

The Constitution calls for an up or down vote for apointments. I think Obamas should get that as well.

Did you have as much of a problem with the filibuster when the R's had the Senate?

The tactic being called for today has no precedent. The Senate is working , for the most part, as the founders intended. Very very slow so bs does not get quickly pushed through by either side

And did you see this link in another thread?

In case you didn't

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-dems-in-2005-51-vote-nuclear-option-is-arrogant-power-grab-against-the-founders-intent/

In a completly unsurprising post, Marc reveals a breathtaking lack of knowlege of the history of the filibuster, the use of the filibuster, and the immensely dangerous misuse of the filibuster by the Rescums in the current senate session.

Perhaps you could read up on the use of the filibuster in recent times. Try 2005, for starters. Then read up on how many times the filibuster was invoked in the last 20 sessions. Then read up on how many times it has been invoked during THIS session.

Once you actually know what you are talking about, post again.

Maybe you could come up with a reasonable explanation as to why the senate is sitting on over 290 bills that have been passed by the house.
Bills that have been approved in the Hosue with a "yes" vote of over 400, in some cases. It is one thing to obstruct those bills that your party has actual objections to. It is a disgusting and despicable tactic to block EVERYTHING possible, even when the house rescums voted in favor of the bill.

This shit has got to stop.

Dude, where did I say it has not been used?

Fact, they both use it
Fact, the constitution calls for an up or down vote of presidential appointments and the filibuster historically was not used for appointments (notice I did not say never)
Fact, reconciliation or the nuclear option as it is called was intended for budget bills

Your ranting is what should stop dude

Did you investigate the hypocrisy you are supporting by the Dems as demonstrated in the link provided above?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Don't you rightys feel any shame for supporting the asshole Rescums?

Do you feel any shame for supporting the asshole democrats? (or perhaps dimocrats or something)

I think people here should start calling them re-PUBE-corpo-con-clown-fasci-scum-li-urrr-urrrrrrr-urrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and say that out loud to themselves as they type it.

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Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything.

More evidence that you are unaware of the congressional relationship between GWB and congress 2001 to 2007 VERSUS GWB and teh congress from 2007 to 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes

George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio)

I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again.

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No.. they do that just fine after a little "foot tapping"

Nah, that would be stall tapping get your terms right....
I've had to work a couple of those details, ain't fun regardless of political affiliation...........

Oh, are you in Minnesota? Work the airport do you? Ugly job

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Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything.

More evidence that you are unaware of the congressional relationship between GWB and congress 2001 to 2007 VERSUS GWB and teh congress from 2007 to 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes

George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio)

I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again.

He did not use it enough in my opinion. During the early or later years

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything.

More evidence that you are unaware of the congressional relationship between GWB and congress 2001 to 2007 VERSUS GWB and the congress from 2007 to 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes

George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio)

I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again.

He did not use it enough in my opinion. During the early or later years

What made you think that; some of teh worst years America has suffered were at that time? It's probably unprecedented to have a president not veto anything for 5.5 years. Just think, if GWB would have not been elected in 2004, he would be one of the few presidents to never veto 1 thing; this should have been a clue to voters that GWB was incompetent.

But anyway, the original point was Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything. I have illustrated that this is patently wrong.

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Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything.

More evidence that you are unaware of the congressional relationship between GWB and congress 2001 to 2007 VERSUS GWB and teh congress from 2007 to 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes

George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio)

I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again.

He did not use it enough in my opinion. During the early or later years

What made you think that; some of teh worst years America has suffered were at that time? It's probably unprecedented to have a president not veto anything for 5.5 years. Just think, if GWB would have not been elected in 2004, he would be the 1st pres (as far as I know) to never veto 1 thing; this should have been a clue to voters that GWB was incompetent.

But anyway, the original point was Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything. I have illustrated that this is patently wrong.

And why should he do what they want?

He got them to do what he wanted

Your point does not really mean anything or I am not understanding your point

Obama cant get anything done today because there is little public support behind him and his radical agenda. The senate and house members want to be re-elected. They will not be if they support Obama.

And no dude, it does not matter how many times you say, the Bush years were not the worst we have been through. But last one may have been

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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And why should he do what they want?

Is the translation, "And why should Bush do what they want?"

If so, because the Repub congress and Bush trashed the country in the first 6 years. But that wasn't the original assertion, it was that the Pelosi/Reid duo couldn't make Bush do anything. It's right there, are you unable to read? Here, I'll post it in bold letters and underlined: Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything.

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He got them to do what he wanted

Is the, "he" Bush? Well, with overrides of 11 vetoes, that's like the 2nd or 3rd highest veto rate ever. That doesn't really support your point well.

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Your point does not really mean anything or I am not understanding your point

Simple:

ORIGINAL ASSERTION: Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything.

MY RESPONSE: George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio)

I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again.

CONCLUSION: If Reid / Pelosi didn't make Bush do anything, then how is it that with limited votes, a House majority and tied senate, did the Dems muster 4 veto overrides in a climate that produced only 1 veto in 6 years?

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Obama cant get anything done today because there is little public support behind him and his radical agenda.

Here comes teh strawman, this isn't the issue here - you have just brought this in. BTW, how does the public support affect bills and agendas? The public spoke Nov 08, so yes, they are behind him. As for get nothing done, are you forgetting the stimulus that has brought all economic indicators around? HC isn't dead and the jobs bill is going thru.

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The senate and house members want to be re-elected. They will not be if they support Obama.

I think 17 Dems are up in the Senate, maybe 1 or 2 less. All other Dems are not up this year. To think that the House members are all running scared is ridiculous, look at the House version of the HC Bill with public option: NEWS FLASH - IT PASSED.

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And no dude, it does not matter how many times you say, the Bush years were not the worst we have been through.

I said some of the worst, but I have never expected you to quote me honestly; why start now. We have the GD, the Civil War, 911...oh wait, that ws during your guys time; never mind . The years of 01 to 09 were some of teh worst, I'm sorry simple data and just looking around doesn't work for you.

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But last one may have been

It was a bad one. Obama inherited an 8% unemp rate that was in freefall; it grew 3.5% the previous year alone. The GDP had negative growth 4 of the 5 previous quarters. The market fell from a high of 14k to 7500 as Obama took office. So yes, 2009 was bad, but look at what what preceeded the year and look where were at now.