funjumper101 15 #1 February 25, 2010 Keith Olbermann is not my favorite commentator. I was told that it would be a good idea to watch his special comments from 2-24-10, as they are quite moving, unless you have a heart of stone. The point made about how he doesn't have to worry about how to PAY for the care being provided should be food for thought for everyone opposed to a single payer plan in the USA. Having no insurance and no money is a death sentence here, if you develop a serious illness. That is shameful and wrong in every way. No one in their right mind can support the current situation. Watch both parts and listen carefully. 15 minutes well spent, if you really think about what he says. Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fse0wzkd-zQ Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlK3Gi5mg78 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #2 February 25, 2010 I thought his part on "death panels" was very compelling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #3 February 25, 2010 they have been saying it for years... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #4 February 25, 2010 Not sure what the point was in relation to your comments. His father was very ill, seems they had money for treatment, got every kind of treatment possible, etc. I'm not saying everyone does not deserve access to quality care, just wondering how his story about his father connects. I was expecting a horrifying anecdote about an uninsured person being denied life-saving care; and instead saw just the opposite. So it was a here's-how-it-should-work story? Good enough, everyone knows that. BTW, I do not support the current situation; and so of course do not support simply extending it to more people. Wierd thing is that people are so critical of the current system (me too), but so many are more than happy to simply make it even bigger. Bizarre." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasted3 0 #5 February 25, 2010 He talked about what 'death panels' really are about. Not the way they were portrayed by detractors of reform. Here is my idea for health care reform: Grab all the opium in Afganastan and stockpile it. When the health care system fails, give people enough smak to ease their last days. Hey, maybe that war is useful for something after all.But what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 February 26, 2010 QuoteHe talked about what 'death panels' really are about. Not the way they were portrayed by detractors of reform. Here is my idea for health care reform: Grab all the opium in Afganastan and stockpile it. When the health care system fails, give people enough smak to ease their last days. Hey, maybe that war is useful for something after all. Well, Obama *did* say that maybe Grandma should just have a pain pill instead of a pacemaker when he was talking to that reporter.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #7 February 26, 2010 What I find ironic about that whole commentary is he wants more of what is keeping his father in such great pain. We treat sick animals better than terminal humans. He is correct about making sure your wishes are understood. After the heart attack I went out and drafted a few decrees of my own with a counselor.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #8 February 26, 2010 QuoteWhat I find ironic about that whole commentary is he wants more of what is keeping his father in such great pain. When my mother died, I was the one that made the final choice to take her off of life support. He doesn't want to let his father go, it's entirely natural and I understand it completely. He's on the outside looking in and knows that his father is responding to treatment. His father is on the inside and all he knows is that he HURTS, and he wants it to STOP hurting. QuoteWe treat sick animals better than terminal humans. In some cases, yes. The HC reform isn't going to help that - there's not going to be several thousand doctors and nurses that magically appear out of thin air, so there WILL be rationing beyond what we have now. QuoteHe is correct about making sure your wishes are understood. After the heart attack I went out and drafted a few decrees of my own with a counselor. I agree - definitely something that people need to look at.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #9 February 26, 2010 Went thru the same with my dad last year. I was pretty shocked when he said it; but had to acknowledge that he did not want to live with the mind of an adult while getting cared for like a newborn; a terminally sick newborn at that." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
