Finally, a Democrat with the BALLS to tell it like it is

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Anthiny Weiner kicked ass on the floor. The rescums sure weren't happy about the truth being told. Too bad none of the major media will show these truthful words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBqtyvn7OVw

[Darius11 12]

That’s why they said they want to have a conversation and every time the president wants a sit down with cameras they want to make excuses.

They have no solid facts to back up their idea and the truth is every thing they do is to support the insurance companies. They are selling out there constituents for the campaign contributions.

What I don’t get is the sheep that follow them happily to the slaughter.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Here is a Democrat who turned republican who really says it... hear the whole thing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

[Darius11 12]

Ronald Reagan LOLOLOL Oh yea he was all about small government LOLOLOL


I love how so many people look at the guy like he was magic. Once again lack of facts and knowledge and god forbid you see the truth it might rock your foundation of beliefs. Reagan LOLOL


By the way we have had a public option in other countries and even in our own states and it works and people love it. Maybe the issue is your still listening to reasoning from the 50s. That explains a lot.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Are insurance companies for or against the healthcare legislation?

James

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Are insurance companies for or against the healthcare legislation?

I can't tell if you're really asking this question because you don't know or are trying to be funny.

I'll assume you really don't know.

Yes. The insurance companies are vehemently against any reform and have donated heavily to Republicans to attempt to ensure that they can continue to 30% and higher out of every dollar spent on healthcare.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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They have no solid facts to back up their idea and the truth is every thing they do is to support the insurance companies. They are selling out there constituents for the campaign contributions.

The Democrats had no problem selling out their constituents to give unions tax favored status on the caddy tax.

Everyone's a sellout - just a question of whether they benefitting you or someone else.

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Geezus, what an Idiot!

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Insurance companies give very generously to both Democrats and Republicans. They are equal opportunity bribers. The health care reform bill, if passed, would accelerate the growth of insurance profits. The bribe money is a good investment for the companies.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

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I've heard it both ways and don't have time to research it now at work. Asking a simple question like that usually brings a responce from both sides.

James

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Anthiny Weiner kicked ass on the floor. The rescums sure weren't happy about the truth being told. Too bad none of the major media will show these truthful words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBqtyvn7OVw

That was nothing more than an emotional tirade. Hyperbole and exxageration only make people less credible.

If he had said legislators are owned by lobbyists in general, I'd buy that; but they are not wholly owned by just the insyrance lobby.

The accusation that insurance companies are fully at fault for the current economic crisis is BS too. Our banking and finance industry did that, and why is our legislature refusing to reform any of those rules. The rules that allowed that to happen have not changed at all.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Are insurance companies for or against the healthcare legislation?

James

For the most part, and in general; they are for legislation that moves toward an even playing field and open competition. They are very against creation of a subsidized government run insurance plan (basically a government run insurance company). It would be no different than if the government decided to go into the gas station business and decided to open tax-subsidized distribution centers across the street from every existing gas station. Or open grocery stores and sell below cost.

They are very divided on whether or not all HCF organizations must be not-for-profit.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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His name is WEINER...but he kicked ass? why didn't you just say he went "balls out" instead?

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>For the most part, and in general; they are for legislation that
>moves toward an even playing field and open competition.

I think that's completely wrong. They support what makes them money, like all companies here in the US. They are in favor of patent laws that keep their drugs exclusive to them as long as possible, for example; they very specifically do not want to "open the playing field" for other manufacturers.

Watch who the healthcare companies support and who they don't. That is a clear indication of who they think will make them money, and who they think will lose them money.

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They have no solid facts to back up their idea and the truth is every thing they do is to support the insurance companies. They are selling out there constituents for the campaign contributions.

The Democrats had no problem selling out their constituents to give unions tax favored status on the caddy tax.

Everyone's a sellout - just a question of whether they benefitting you or someone else.

I think I might just be a dumbass then. I don’t think of every thing as how it effects me but what is right or wrong, just and unjust. For Example. I have always supported gay rights I don’t support it because I have friends who are gay, or that I am gay I support it because I believe it is the just thing to do.

Again I am not saying all democrats good all rep. bad. I just wish people would stay loyal to the truth and their country instead of picking a side and then finding facts that fit inn and ignoring all the ones that don’t.

I think the dems are retarded when it comes to gun laws. They live in a fantasy world. However lately it truly seems that the republicans do not have the nations best interest in mind they just want to disagree with whatever this president wants to do.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Will the healthcare overhaul as passed in the house and or senate make or lose money for the insurance companies?

James

[Darius11 12]

The one thing to realize as a truth is this. Any company that is a publicly traded corporation has one goal Profit. The debate is as simple as that. Is profit worth more then a humane life?
Now you might think that the profit is what makes medical science go forward you would be correct if we were talking about not paying the doctors and the many people who develop or make equipment. However that’s not the case what we or at least I am talking about is a public option. That means the people who make money of administrating health the dr. nurses, health engineers would still get paid the people who would not get paid are the insurance companies who do not provide any service other then being the middle man.

Where does the money for a public option come from? All of us as a nation we decide that we do not want any citizen to have to choose between food, or health care. I personally can not see any thing more patriotic then that.

The argument against it lacks common sense.
We understand that prevention is cheaper then a cure, we know that anyone ANYONE who has an emergency weather a car accident or as a result of symptoms going untreated who ends up needing help will get it. They will be helped in an emergency room. If they don’t have the money guess what we end up paying for it anyway we don’t tell them to suffer and die. No civilized nation does.

So why not do it where it would cause less suffering, ans it would cost all of us less.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Do you support scrapping the "public optionless" versions that have been passed in the house/senate in order to get it right?

James

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>For the most part, and in general; they are for legislation that
>moves toward an even playing field and open competition.

I think that's completely wrong. They support what makes them money, like all companies here in the US. They are in favor of patent laws that keep their drugs exclusive to them as long as possible, for example; they very specifically do not want to "open the playing field" for other manufacturers.

Watch who the healthcare companies support and who they don't. That is a clear indication of who they think will make them money, and who they think will lose them money.

The question, and my answer, was about HCF, and is correct. Many of the current rules inhibit competition, and keep them bottled into niches - especially the not so big companies.

Phamacuetical companies fall into the category of providers, not insurance.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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The one thing to realize as a truth is this. Any company that is a publicly traded corporation has one goal Profit. The debate is as simple as that. Is profit worth more then a humane life?.

Does the same apply to food as well? Because I can't recall hearing 'those evil food companies. They make me pay for food and they make a profit'. Why should we have to pay for food?..or for houses? Isn't food and shelter more basic a need than healthcare?

Please don't dent the planet.

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None of the healthcare proposals are asking for free healthcare, or to propose that healthcare providers should not be allowed to profit.

Speed Racer
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He's a Weiner

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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None of the healthcare proposals are asking for free healthcare, or to propose that healthcare providers should not be allowed to profit.

Ah, you are wrong and you are wrong

all get HC whether or not they can pay and
the proposals will run the private HC companies out of business because in the end, the competition is the gov.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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He wouldn't say this in public. He's immune from slander while in Legislative session. It's a privilege.

I double dog dare him to say that off the floor. Considering that what he said is likely provably false, he would find himself in trouble.

Good on him getting press. As we can see, both sides are loaded with adults and reasonable individuals.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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Are insurance companies for or against the healthcare legislation?

I can't tell if you're really asking this question because you don't know or are trying to be funny.

I'll assume you really don't know.

Yes. The insurance companies are vehemently against any reform and have donated heavily to Republicans to attempt to ensure that they can continue to 30% and higher out of every dollar spent on healthcare.

Too bad the records actually show that they've donated slightly MORE to Democrats.

Mike
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