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>There isn't anything morally wrong with responsible drinking.

Agreed. There's also a time and place for it.

If a 4-way team with 20 year olds on it won a Nationals intermediate competition, and they all grabbed champagne and beer and ran into the landing area to start celebrating, they might be perfectly justified in doing that. Still, most teams seem to have enough class to save that for later.

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Still, most teams seem to have enough class to save that for later.


And this team did. They returned to the ice more than an hour after the medal ceremony to celebrate. The arena had already cleared. Their only mistake was not kicking out the "journalists".

Once in a lifetime moment - drink it in.

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The arena had already cleared. Their only mistake was not kicking out the "journalists".

Once in a lifetime moment - drink it in.



There you have it.
"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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IIRC, the Olympics are supposed to be about sportsmanship on the grandest stage of all, at least in the eyes of the IOC.

I would have preferred that the Olympic Games stuck to their Amateur-only rule, but the Communist-bloc countries wouldn't play fair, so we have the system as it is now, and it's hardly scandal-free.

If the arena was already empty of fans and opposing players, then I guess the girls did the right thing waiting until then to celebrate, but it would still have been better for them to go back to their hotel or athletic village where they're staying and celebrate in privacy.



sorry but skydivers don't leave the dz after having a great jump, they turn on the beer light and party, the girls deserve to do this.

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>There isn't anything morally wrong with responsible drinking.

Agreed. There's also a time and place for it.

If a 4-way team with 20 year olds on it won a Nationals intermediate competition, and they all grabbed champagne and beer and ran into the landing area to start celebrating, they might be perfectly justified in doing that. Still, most teams seem to have enough class to save that for later.



Is your four-way team passing a ceremonial bottle of champagne or beer around or are they chugging brews in the peas? It's really an matter of the image you're conjuring. I only saw what looked like no more than the athletes enjoying a beer on the ice, no crushed cans against the forehead.

People have a cultural attitude that drinking alcohol in any place other than inside their home or in a bar/restaurant (designated location) is the same as a homeless sod sucking on a bottle of Ripple in a brown paper bag.

Now, we know that these were celebratory brews, not my cellaring bottles of St. Bernadus. Also, these athletes know the scrutiny they're under and know it's pretty stupid. I think that in the long run that nobody will care about this any more than they cared about Shaun White and his coach using swear words.
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IIRC, the Olympics are supposed to be about sportsmanship on the grandest stage of all, at least in the eyes of the IOC.

I would have preferred that the Olympic Games stuck to their Amateur-only rule, but the Communist-bloc countries wouldn't play fair, so we have the system as it is now, and it's hardly scandal-free.

If the arena was already empty of fans and opposing players, then I guess the girls did the right thing waiting until then to celebrate, but it would still have been better for them to go back to their hotel or athletic village where they're staying and celebrate in privacy.



sorry but skydivers don't leave the dz after having a great jump, they turn on the beer light and party, the girls deserve to do this.


Partying on the DZ is one thing, partying like that in an Olympic venue is another thing entirely.

Nobody cares about DZ partying except the FBO or airport boards as long as nothing gets damaged/broken/stolen. :P
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IIRC, the Olympics are supposed to be about sportsmanship on the grandest stage of all, at least in the eyes of the IOC.

I would have preferred that the Olympic Games stuck to their Amateur-only rule, but the Communist-bloc countries wouldn't play fair, so we have the system as it is now, and it's hardly scandal-free.

If the arena was already empty of fans and opposing players, then I guess the girls did the right thing waiting until then to celebrate, but it would still have been better for them to go back to their hotel or athletic village where they're staying and celebrate in privacy.



sorry but skydivers don't leave the dz after having a great jump, they turn on the beer light and party, the girls deserve to do this.


Partying on the DZ is one thing, partying like that in an Olympic venue is another thing entirely.

Nobody cares about DZ partying except the FBO or airport boards as long as nothing gets damaged/broken/stolen. :P


Ya know Billy... some people just get WAY too prissy pissy when someone else is having fun..... and they are not.:ph34r::ph34r:

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> I only saw what looked like no more than the athletes enjoying a beer on
>the ice, no crushed cans against the forehead.

Well, one player was trying to commandeer the Zamboni and drive it around.

If this had happened at Nationals, Scott would have come out and told them "hey, just keep it inside, OK?" Problem solved.

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You guys keep talking about drinking. It is illegal to smoke in that building and British Columbians are serious about anti-smoking laws (for tobacco). The issue is they disrespected the venue.



In the meantime down the block at the "New Amsterdam Cafe" business goes on as usual. Not to mention a certain bar down the street (which shall remain annoymous) where one only needs to stand by the jukebox and within seconds someone else will approach you and ask you what sort of commerce you wish to engage in.

Oh yes good ole Vancouver when one form of smoke is to be strictly prohibited while the other form of smoke is ignored. :ph34r:


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IIRC, the Olympics are supposed to be about sportsmanship on the grandest stage of all, at least in the eyes of the IOC.

I would have preferred that the Olympic Games stuck to their Amateur-only rule, but the Communist-bloc countries wouldn't play fair, so we have the system as it is now, and it's hardly scandal-free.

If the arena was already empty of fans and opposing players, then I guess the girls did the right thing waiting until then to celebrate, but it would still have been better for them to go back to their hotel or athletic village where they're staying and celebrate in privacy.



Teh American Silver medalist in snowboarding did exxactly that, but cell phoen pictures got out, so they made him Leave canada! (at least they didn;t take his medal)

Just a picture of a girl sucking on his Silver medal, that was rapped around his waste.....fuck it, he earned it, Let a young man celibrate!
Same for the Canadaian women!

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it would still have been better for them to go back to their hotel or athletic village where they're staying and celebrate in privacy.



With all due respect I am guessing you do not have much of a hockey background. It is on the ice where you want to be as you celebrate your championship. The hockey player has a certain bond to this environment. It is their shrine. Sure hockey players celebrate back in the village or other public areas. But only after they have first paid homage to the Hockey Gods on the ice. Heck they didn't even want to get out of their stinky uniforms until the moment had completely set in. :ph34r:


Or maybe I am just talking out of my rear end ...


You're saying all the right things! Hockey is a 'Canadian Game' and a win such as these women worked so hard for on their ice can celebrate any way they want... as far as I'm concerned. They drank some beer and champagne. It's their tradition. The IOC has no idea what that win means to those women and to the people of Canada. The IOC needs to pull the stick out of their collective ass and let them be.


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You guys keep talking about drinking. It is illegal to smoke in that building and British Columbians are serious about anti-smoking laws (for tobacco). The issue is they disrespected the venue.


so write them all a ticket and be done with it.
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Geez,
The world has become so anal about everything, these athletes worked harder than most people ever would or will. They are in their own country and won against a neighboring opponent, they deserve a victory party!
They are victims of the 24 hour news cycle plain and simple. The arena was empty (except for the press), I say press on ladies and well done, a victory well earned and deserved!

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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You guys keep talking about drinking. It is illegal to smoke in that building and British Columbians are serious about anti-smoking laws (for tobacco). The issue is they disrespected the venue.



To me, it boils-down to one thing... people need to liighten-up! Those women celebrated a huge victory for them and for their country. Folks need to cut 'em a little slack. Did they really commit a crime of any kind? Did they damage anything? Was anyone injured because of their victory celebration? They at least, didn't act like soccer players after a big win. As for 'dis-respecting the venue'... I don't think so. It's not like it was a Cathedral or Synagogue. I realize, hockey rinks are 'sacred' to players but I don't see where there was dis-respect shown.


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>sorry but skydivers don't leave the dz after having a great jump, they
>turn on the beer light and party, the girls deserve to do this.

They do indeed deserve a party - perhaps just not on someone else's rink.

Example from my own experience. In 2004 we got the 357 way after a long and hard week. Everyone started celebrating, buying beer from the vendors that magically appeared after we had landed at Thakli. One woman could barely stand up, she was in so much pain from her shoulder. Another guy had passed out on the final jump. We had lost several people to injuries and sickness. We all deserved a celebration.

Then we had to fly back to Udon Thani, so we loaded the C-130's to fly back. The Thai military didn't want beer on their planes, so Larry went around telling people to get rid of the beers. We did, out of respect for the people who gave us their airplanes basically for free.

Did that mean that the Thai military were assholes with sticks up their asses? Should we have protested, and said "FUCK YOU! We have the right to celebrate in the place we started the record attempt from!" Perhaps.

But instead we dumped out the beer, flew back and had the party back at the base. And that didn't seem like a huge deal to me. It seemed more like showing respect for some of the people who allowed us to get the record in the first place.

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>sorry but skydivers don't leave the dz after having a great jump, they
>turn on the beer light and party, the girls deserve to do this.

They do indeed deserve a party - perhaps just not on someone else's rink.

Example from my own experience. In 2004 we got the 357 way after a long and hard week. Everyone started celebrating, buying beer from the vendors that magically appeared after we had landed at Thakli. One woman could barely stand up, she was in so much pain from her shoulder. Another guy had passed out on the final jump. We had lost several people to injuries and sickness. We all deserved a celebration.

Then we had to fly back to Udon Thani, so we loaded the C-130's to fly back. The Thai military didn't want beer on their planes, so Larry went around telling people to get rid of the beers. We did, out of respect for the people who gave us their airplanes basically for free.

Did that mean that the Thai military were assholes with sticks up their asses? Should we have protested, and said "FUCK YOU! We have the right to celebrate in the place we started the record attempt from!" Perhaps.

But instead we dumped out the beer, flew back and had the party back at the base. And that didn't seem like a huge deal to me. It seemed more like showing respect for some of the people who allowed us to get the record in the first place.



Part of the story I have not seen here was the team was celebrating in the locker. They were asked to come back on the ice an hour later for a team picture. They brought the beer and cigars with them

Seems to relate well to your story. (By the way, did you meet Shawn White? Whitey? a friend of mine)

I will not make a judgment. I have never been in the Olympics so I can only look in from the outside.
I just hope it is taken care of quickly and the team can enjoy what they have acomplished
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Then we had to fly back to Udon Thani, so we loaded the C-130's to fly back. The Thai military didn't want beer on their planes, so Larry went around telling people to get rid of the beers. We did, out of respect for the people who gave us their airplanes basically for free.



It's not really the same thing, is it?

Ice rinks are designed for tens of thousands of people to drink beer and eat hot dogs (or the Canuck variant) while watching a game or a concert. The reason the venue exists is for the performers.

C-130s are military transport planes. Their purpose was not to assist skydivers, but they accommodated your team's needs voluntarily. And there are practical reasons for not wanting loose alcoholic beverages on board, which in the hands of drunks are more likely to be spilled.

If the focus was on the smoking, fine, but it's really this assertion that these damn women should be controlling themselves.

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