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QuoteWhat really bugs me though is the idea that everyone should be paranoid all the time.
Your paranoia is another person's readiness. Is it paranoia that causes a police officer to go around armed?
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QuoteQuoteAnd many IRS employees never thought their lives would be threatened with a nutter in a Piper.
When the number reaches thousands each year you will have a point. At the moment homicides with Pipers rank somewhat below homicides with down filled pillows.
Using that logic perfessor we should stop commercial flights. Seems a few thousand were racked up that day.
Nutters will always be there. Let's assume for a second that no gun is available. He'd probably just give up and say the hell with it, right? We better start confiscating those ginsu knives, or that archery set at Dick's.
Doesn't make sense to me.
Please don't dent the planet.
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quade 4
QuoteIs it paranoia that causes a police officer to go around armed?
Don't be silly. It's their JOB to go into harm's way.
Is that your job?
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Not according to SCOTUS.
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Amazon 7
QuoteWhat really bugs me though is the idea that everyone should be paranoid all the time. It's the subject of this thread. It's one of Amazon's driving motivators and I think it's unfounded. While SHE may have been a victim at one time and now is determined not to be one again
I think you will find a LOT of people who have been victims that determine they will not be victims again. I would say many of them NEVER thought anything could happen to them... much like the newbie skydiver that has yet to realize their own mortality.
Untill you have walked in those shoes... you just don't have a clue.
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QuoteIt makes them sound nutty.
Why?
QuoteWhere we get into fuzzy territory are places that are generally not considered appropriate by the vast majority of people; planes, trains, bars, amusement parks . . . you can see the sliding scale there. Almost nobody thinks it's appropriate for the general public to carry firearms in airplanes. Recently National Parks were opened up to firearms. I'm conflicted on that one, but really didn't have a huge issue with the way things had been handled for nearly 100 years. It simply wasn't an issue and when the rule was put in place it did cut down on the poaching. We'll see how it goes now.
We'll see.
QuoteWhat really bugs me though is the idea that everyone should be paranoid all the time.
Is that a hypothesis or just your opinion?
Quoteit's a little like hearing the newbie skydiver telling his office mates they also HAVE to go skydiving. No, they probably don't. In fact, most of them probably shouldn't.
I wish more would to increase positive popularity to our sport however, this translates to the self defense disscussion very little. My big thing is if she HAD a gun she would have at least HAD a chance (however minute). Further, if more LAW ABIDING CITEZENS could carry there would be far less of these type of crimes. My reasoning? If you wish to commit a crime where/when would you likely do it? If it were me I would go to a place where I KNEW noone could defend themselves or those they care about. What would I do if I knew any and every citizen was armed? I likely woudnt commit any sort of crime anywhere near there.
I say give the good guys (legal/law abiding gun owners) the right to protect themselves and others by making it publicly know that if you fuck up there may just be someone around that wont stand for that shit.
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QuoteYou've missed the point. It would enable the police to arrest a person like him if they found one in their possession. It would give the police another tool to use to stop people like that.
Making the (rather large) assumption that they break some other law BEFORE they go 'ay in wait'.
QuoteI think we all agree there is nothing to stop the person once they "lay in wait", the point is to stop them before they can do that.
How's that working with the x million OTHER criminals?
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billvon 3,070
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>Is it paranoia that causes a police officer to go around armed?
Nope, nor is it paranoia for a Cessna jump pilot to wear a parachute. But if you insist on wearing one on every commercial flight, it might be. (More likely that the person just thinks it's really fucking cool for people to know they're a skydiver, of course.)
Nope, nor is it paranoia for a Cessna jump pilot to wear a parachute. But if you insist on wearing one on every commercial flight, it might be. (More likely that the person just thinks it's really fucking cool for people to know they're a skydiver, of course.)
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QuoteSure, there is the VERY rare case where somebody somewhere does and that's used as justification for the entire fear industry surrounding gun sales, but it's pretty much pure bullshit when you consider the enormous costs. You might as well take out a life insurance policy against getting struck by lightning.
Who knew that people get struck by lightning between 500k and 2.5 million times a year? At least, that's why you're implying, since various studies show that range of defensive gun uses.
Mike
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I don't claim to be a gun expert, but I know that if I were determined to kill somebody, there would be nothing they could do about it. Not a damn thing. It wouldn't matter one single bit how armed they were.
'I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.'
No need to respond to a guy who thinks he knows the subject.
billvon 3,070
>Who knew that people get struck by lightning between 500k and
>2.5 million times a year?
Close; it's about 100K worldwide; about 10% of those result in death. Got your lightning-rod hat on?
>2.5 million times a year?
Close; it's about 100K worldwide; about 10% of those result in death. Got your lightning-rod hat on?
mnealtx 0
Quote>Who knew that people get struck by lightning between 500k and
>2.5 million times a year?
Close; it's about 100K worldwide; about 10% of those result in death. Got your lightning-rod hat on?
How many in the States, since that's the region we're discussing.
Mike
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rushmc 23
You have used the paranoia point before. How you feel you know people who carry are paranoid is beyond me. It is beyond you too I think
Guess I gotta think the paranoia is yours cause I dont see it the other way
Are there exceptions? Almost always. The rule? Gotta wonder
As others point out Quade, by your thinking having insurance is being paranoid. As is having a reserve chute.
Cause shit "might" happen
In the end?
Your paranoia is others preparedness.
Guess I gotta think the paranoia is yours cause I dont see it the other way
Are there exceptions? Almost always. The rule? Gotta wonder
As others point out Quade, by your thinking having insurance is being paranoid. As is having a reserve chute.
Cause shit "might" happen
In the end?
Your paranoia is others preparedness.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
quade 4
QuoteHow you feel you know people who carry are paranoid is beyond me.
It's a lot easier to be objective about a subject if you're not emotionally involved with it.
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rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteHow you feel you know people who carry are paranoid is beyond me.
It's a lot easier to be objective about a subject if you're not emotionally involved with it.
And you are looking in a miror when you posted this, correct?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
I could buy one heck of a nice car with the money I've paid in premiums over the years.
A few hundred for a quality firearm that may, even if the chance is 1,000,000/1, just may save my life is a small fee in comparison.
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