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The Southern Poverty Law Centre, the US's most prominent civil rights group focused on hate organisations, said in a report that extremist "patriot" groups "came roaring back to life" last year as their number jumped nearly 250% to more than 500 with deepening ties to conservative mainstream politics.

The SPLC report, called Rage on the Right, said the rise in extremist groups was "a cause for grave concern" given their propensity to use violence during their heyday in the 90s, most notably with the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people. It added that the issues driving support for such groups were increasingly populist and that "signs of growing radicalisation are everywhere".

"Patriot groups have been fuelled by anger over the changing demographics of the country, the soaring public debt, the troubled economy and an array of initiatives by President Obama that have been branded "socialist" or even "fascist" by his political opponents," the report said.

"Already there are signs of … violence emanating from the radical right. Since the installation of Barack Obama, rightwing extremists have murdered six law enforcement officers. Racist skinheads and others have been arrested in alleged plots to assassinate the nation's first black president. One man from Brockton, Massachusetts – who told police he had learned on white supremacist websites that a genocide was under way against whites – is charged with murdering two black people and planning to kill as many Jews as possible on the day after Obama's inauguration. Most recently, a rash of individuals with anti-government, survivalist or racist views have been arrested in a series of bomb cases."



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/04/us-surge-rightwing-extremist-groups
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>any examples?

Richard Poplawski. Killed 3 cops because he thought Obama would "take his guns away."

The right winger yelling "KILL HIM!" at a Sarah Palin rally.

Tharin Gartrell. Neo-Nazi republican arrested in a plot to kill Obama.

John Patrick Bedell, right wing extremist, killed in an attempt to attack the Pentagon.

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On his Facebook page, since deleted, Bedell associated himself, among other things, with the libertarian/conservative Ludwig von Mises Insitute, Lew Rockwell, and Shelly Roche (a self-described libertarian.)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Patrick_Bedell
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[repl]John Patrick Bedell, right left wing extremist, killed in an attempt to attack the Pentagon.



Nice try - fixed that for you.



Without regard to this particular incident, how would you define "right wing" and "left wing"?

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A transcript of his audio works (link):

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This criminal organization would use its powers to convert military, intelligence, and law enforcement bureaucracies into instruments for political control, and the domination and subjection of society, while discrediting, destroying, and murdering honest individuals within those services, that work to root out corruption, and faithfully serve their fellow citizens. This organization, like so many murderous governments throughout history, would see the sacrifice of thousands of its citizens in an event such as the September 11 attacks, as a small cost in order to perpetuate its barbaric control. This collection of gangsters would find it in their interest to foment conflict and initiate wars throughout the world, in order to divert attention from their misconduct and criminality. The true nature of such a regime would find its clearest expression in the satanic violence currently ongoing in Iraq



Yup, sure sounds like a 'right-winger' to me...
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This criminal organization would use its powers to convert military, intelligence, and law enforcement bureaucracies into instruments for political control, and the domination and subjection of society, while discrediting, destroying, and murdering honest individuals within those services, that work to root out corruption, and faithfully serve their fellow citizens. This organization, like so many murderous governments throughout history, would see the sacrifice of thousands of its citizens in an event such as the September 11 attacks, as a small cost in order to perpetuate its barbaric control. This collection of gangsters would find it in their interest to foment conflict and initiate wars throughout the world, in order to divert attention from their misconduct and criminality. The true nature of such a regime would find its clearest expression in the satanic violence currently ongoing in Iraq



Sounds like a PNAC recruitment pamphlet.

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This criminal organization would use its powers to convert military, intelligence, and law enforcement bureaucracies into instruments for political control, and the domination and subjection of society, while discrediting, destroying, and murdering honest individuals within those services, that work to root out corruption, and faithfully serve their fellow citizens. This organization, like so many murderous governments throughout history, would see the sacrifice of thousands of its citizens in an event such as the September 11 attacks, as a small cost in order to perpetuate its barbaric control. This collection of gangsters would find it in their interest to foment conflict and initiate wars throughout the world, in order to divert attention from their misconduct and criminality. The true nature of such a regime would find its clearest expression in the satanic violence currently ongoing in Iraq



Sounds like a PNAC recruitment pamphlet.



Looks a lot like some of the anti Bush rants penned by several posters here.

It's also a recording from 2006.

Nice try.
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"Patriot groups have been fuelled by anger over the changing demographics of the country, the soaring public debt, the troubled economy and an array of initiatives by President Obama that have been branded "socialist" or even "fascist" by his political opponents," the report said.



The demographics of many countries are changing with globalization. So I don't want to dwell on this point too much. People of all shapes and sizes need to realize the world is changing and if they are not willing to adapt to this ever changing world, they will be left behind.

But ...

If people are not concerned about the soaring public debt, then they are either just complacent sleeping at the wheel or they are in favor of this rising debt and how it will ensure the slavery of future generations.

Obama is not solely responsible here. Previous US administrations have definitely added to the debt levels of the USA. But Obama's debt in one year has dwarfed what previous governments have done. If this trend continues (and we know it will) for 3 - 7 more years Obama will go down in the history books like no other president has. I am sorry if you are not concerned about Obama's spending, then well ... LOL ... who am I kidding we already know you like being called comrade. But this is not the line for food, this is the line for shoes. The food line starts over there. :P


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Saw a headline about student protests at Berkley and thought, finally, college students are getting a social conscious about the war, about neglecting our needy, about FOX News maybe, but no, when I read the article they were just protesting against higher tuition fees. :|

Where's the Black Panthers and Weatherman when you need them. Where's this generation's Mohamed Ali, "I'm a black man with no beef against the yellow man." (I suppose his taking the name "Mohamed" would frighten today's tea baggers to death.) Where's our new John Lennon? Where's the new left wing radicals? The Bumblicans not being capable of original thought or deed are hijacking our revolution!

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From the CSM:

John Patrick Bedell, whom authorities identified as the gunman in the Pentagon shooting on Thursday, appears to have been a right-wing extremist with virulent antigovernment feelings.



Damn: and this whole time I thought he was a leftist, because he thought the 9-11 attack was an inside job.

Then again there was a leftist that flew his plane into an IRS office not so long ago.

I'm also thinking of all those leftist ECO radicals that torch Hummer dealerships, among other criminal activity.

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>any examples?

Richard Poplawski. Killed 3 cops because he thought Obama would "take his guns away."

The right winger yelling "KILL HIM!" at a Sarah Palin rally.

Tharin Gartrell. Neo-Nazi republican arrested in a plot to kill Obama.

John Patrick Bedell, right wing extremist, killed in an attempt to attack the Pentagon.



what about that sad family in (Brazil?) that killed their kids and themselves because of their fear of global warming.....

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>Damn: and this whole time I thought he was a leftist, because he
>thought the 9-11 attack was an inside job.

Hmm. So all the anti-Obama types crucifying him for not investigating 9/11 are leftists? I guess you have to be pro-Obama these days to be a 'real' right winger.

>Then again there was a leftist that flew his plane into an IRS office not
>so long ago.

Right. The tax-hating leftist, fighting back against all the tax-and-spend republicans. Makes sense in someone's world I suppose.

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>The pilot was a Hard Core Dem.

Cool, so democrats are now the party against taxation, fighting against the pro-tax republicans.

So how much _do_ you want to raise taxes?



> ...so democrats are now the party against taxation, fighting against the pro-tax republicans.

Hell, is this true or you just kidding me? Because if its true, I'll need to rethink my position. But I'm thinking your pulling a OBama on me...trying to trick me with your lies:P

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The Bumblicans not being capable of original thought or deed are hijacking our revolution!



What is your revolution? What was the end result to be?
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From the CSM:

John Patrick Bedell, whom authorities identified as the gunman in the Pentagon shooting on Thursday, appears to have been a right-wing extremist with virulent antigovernment feelings.



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Right. The tax-hating leftist, fighting back against all the tax-and-spend republicans. Makes sense in someone's world I suppose.



You might have had a point except for the REST of his screed, where he attacks the Catholic Church, religion in general, the rich, corporations in general and the whole 'truther' bit.
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[repl]John Patrick Bedell, right left wing extremist, killed in an attempt to attack the Pentagon.



Nice try - fixed that for you.



Without regard to this particular incident, how would you define "right wing" and "left wing"?

Blues,
Dave


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