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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I started this as a sarcastic thread
Then I got to thinking more about it

I look forward to the comments
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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That's right! We liberals love criminals! In fact, most of us are criminals (only the bad liberals are not criminals). And we sure as heck don't want the government having copies of our DNA, because we all get arrested at least once a week (I got arrested three times this week). I'm pretty sure all of this was started by the Bush administration, as a way to clone people, but you're just blaming Obama for what Bush started.

Geez, sooner or later, I thought you would run out of labels - you must have a label-making machine in your basement or something.
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That's right! We liberals love criminals! In fact, most of us are criminals (only the bad liberals are not criminals). And we sure as heck don't want the government having copies of our DNA, because we all get arrested at least once a week (I got arrested three times this week). I'm pretty sure all of this was started by the Bush administration, as a way to clone people, but you're just blaming Obama for what Bush started.

Geez, sooner or later, I thought you would run out of labels - you must have a label-making machine in your basement or something.



DUUUUDE he is in Iowa... winter is long looking at empty corn fields... summer watching corn grow is long..... I guess they have to do SOMETHING

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Can't address the issue?

I posted a follow up

Did you read it?

Libs scream to and about the privacy issue

Now a Dem is proposing an action related to privacy (or removing more privacy. what was your position related to the Patriot Act) Are you OK with this action?



Lower your blood pressure and THINK
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.

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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.


Agreed
I have my prints on record for two issues
Once
Arrested for public intox as a passenger in a car where the operator was arrested for a DUI. Subsequently thrown out by the Iowa SC (not my case specifically) and I only paid court costs and spent a night in jail and my record is supposed to have been cleared (never checked)

Second set taken for a back ground check to have an on track license for the Prairie Meadows racing track in Des Monies.

Got no problem if there have been a conviction or a warrant has been issued. But for just being arrested?

WTF???
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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That's right! We liberals love criminals! In fact, most of us are criminals (only the bad liberals are not criminals). And we sure as heck don't want the government having copies of our DNA, because we all get arrested at least once a week (I got arrested three times this week). I'm pretty sure all of this was started by the Bush administration, as a way to clone people, but you're just blaming Obama for what Bush started.

Geez, sooner or later, I thought you would run out of labels - you must have a label-making machine in your basement or something.



DUUUUDE he is in Iowa... winter is long looking at empty corn fields... summer watching corn grow is long..... I guess they have to do SOMETHING


I will take snow and corn fields over you near constant rain and cloud any day

We all have our evils to live with [:/]
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.


Agreed
I have my prints on record for two issues
Once
Arrested for public intox as a passenger in a car where the operator was arrested for a DUI. Subsequently thrown out by the Iowa SC (not my case specifically) and I only paid court costs and spent a night in jail and my record is supposed to have been cleared (never checked)

Second set taken for a back ground check to have an on track license for the Prairie Meadows racing track in Des Monies.

Got no problem if there have been a conviction or a warrant has been issued. But for just being arrested

WTF???



This falls right in line with the FBI child fingerprint program. Totally bogus, it was designed right from the start to get as many fingerprints on record as possible.

It was done so under the disguise of protecting children. The retired FBI agent who told me about this fraudulent program said that the odds of it even helping a single child was remote.
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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.


Agreed
I have my prints on record for two issues
Once
Arrested for public intox as a passenger in a car where the operator was arrested for a DUI. Subsequently thrown out by the Iowa SC (not my case specifically) and I only paid court costs and spent a night in jail and my record is supposed to have been cleared (never checked)

Second set taken for a back ground check to have an on track license for the Prairie Meadows racing track in Des Monies.

Got no problem if there have been a conviction or a warrant has been issued. But for just being arrested

WTF???



This falls right in line with the FBI child fingerprint program. Totally bogus, it was designed right from the start to get as many fingerprints on record as possible.

It was done so under the disguise of protecting children. The retired FBI agent who told me about this fraudulent program said that the odds of it even helping a single child was remote.



Never heard that
Not too hard to believe however

but I will withhold judgment and comment
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.


Agreed
I have my prints on record for two issues
Once
Arrested for public intox as a passenger in a car where the operator was arrested for a DUI. Subsequently thrown out by the Iowa SC (not my case specifically) and I only paid court costs and spent a night in jail and my record is supposed to have been cleared (never checked)

Second set taken for a back ground check to have an on track license for the Prairie Meadows racing track in Des Monies.

Got no problem if there have been a conviction or a warrant has been issued. But for just being arrested?

WTF???



I also think that, if a warrant is used to get a person's DNA, if that DNA doesn't lead to a conviction then the DNA should be destroyed.

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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.


Agreed
I have my prints on record for two issues
Once
Arrested for public intox as a passenger in a car where the operator was arrested for a DUI. Subsequently thrown out by the Iowa SC (not my case specifically) and I only paid court costs and spent a night in jail and my record is supposed to have been cleared (never checked)

Second set taken for a back ground check to have an on track license for the Prairie Meadows racing track in Des Monies.

Got no problem if there have been a conviction or a warrant has been issued. But for just being arrested?

WTF???



I also think that, if a warrant is used to get a person's DNA, if that DNA doesn't lead to a conviction then the DNA should be destroyed.



Agree. Same should apply to fingerprints.
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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.


Agreed
I have my prints on record for two issues
Once
Arrested for public intox as a passenger in a car where the operator was arrested for a DUI. Subsequently thrown out by the Iowa SC (not my case specifically) and I only paid court costs and spent a night in jail and my record is supposed to have been cleared (never checked)

Second set taken for a back ground check to have an on track license for the Prairie Meadows racing track in Des Monies.

Got no problem if there have been a conviction or a warrant has been issued. But for just being arrested?

WTF???



I also think that, if a warrant is used to get a person's DNA, if that DNA doesn't lead to a conviction then the DNA should be destroyed.



Agree. Same should apply to fingerprints.



And so should a NICS check if it results in a legal gun sale
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Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest




http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest

Maybe no different that finger prints in the end and in today's world?

Could be an interesting topic



I'm going to (gasp!) agree with you on this. I have no issue with the cops getting DNA with a warrant. I have no issue with them getting it from convicted criminals. I don't see how they have the right to take it from somebody for being arrested.


Agreed
I have my prints on record for two issues
Once
Arrested for public intox as a passenger in a car where the operator was arrested for a DUI. Subsequently thrown out by the Iowa SC (not my case specifically) and I only paid court costs and spent a night in jail and my record is supposed to have been cleared (never checked)

Second set taken for a back ground check to have an on track license for the Prairie Meadows racing track in Des Monies.

Got no problem if there have been a conviction or a warrant has been issued. But for just being arrested?

WTF???



I also think that, if a warrant is used to get a person's DNA, if that DNA doesn't lead to a conviction then the DNA should be destroyed.



Agree. Same should apply to fingerprints.



And so should a NICS check if it results in a legal gun sale



No. Doesn't apply to personal physiological/anatomical data, and is undertaken voluntarily.

The DNA we're discussing is taken under coercion.
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Did you forget?



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think this is bad , they are proposing a national i.d. card.
Sounds a little like big brother governing 100% of our life. While I am not certain what data would be help on this smart card I have been hearing anything from a digital photograph to DNA. I am not sure what your thoughts here are but this sounds disturbing to me for many reasons. If the ID is to be encoded with the card holder’s DNA then each and every one of us are now cataloged into a federal, state, or local database somewhere.:S

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think this is bad , they are proposing a national i.d. card.
Sounds a little like big brother governing 100% of our life. While I am not certain what data would be help on this smart card I have been hearing anything from a digital photograph to DNA. I am not sure what your thoughts here are but this sounds disturbing to me for many reasons. If the ID is to be encoded with the card holder’s DNA then each and every one of us are now cataloged into a federal, state, or local database somewhere.:S



In theory it would not seem like a bad idea (just the card and phot) but our gov has already shown a proensity to abuse this kind of info/data. Then there are those who think this is bad but keep gun sale background checks is ok

I dont like it but we do need a way to keep the dead from voting
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Did you forget?



No. Did you comprehend? - No.



I did but I do not agree with you that there is a differnce

Inagine that

Are you beeing a smart ass yet again?
yes
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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think this is bad , they are proposing a national i.d. card.
Sounds a little like big brother governing 100% of our life. While I am not certain what data would be help on this smart card I have been hearing anything from a digital photograph to DNA. I am not sure what your thoughts here are but this sounds disturbing to me for many reasons. If the ID is to be encoded with the card holder’s DNA then each and every one of us are now cataloged into a federal, state, or local database somewhere.:S




SO opt out of buying anything and go live in a right wing militia compound already.


Guess what if you are alive in this country you have been in all kinds of database's since the day you were born.








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Hmmm, a card and a photograph. Does anyone on here not have a drivers license, state I.D., or passport? Seems like your covered.

~Kyle



I would like to agree with you but, when states issue drivers licenses to illegals you gotta wonder if that is enough
Dont get me wrong, I am really not in favor of a us ID card

On the other hand, I am seeing different places that now almost require a US passport to prove your identity.
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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