Why won't God heal Amputees?

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Proove it - else it's just more words.

I am all the proof I need. God has healed and restored me. He has given me a spiritual life beyond my wildest dreams.

Couldn't that same kind of "proof" be used to support heroin usage as well?

Yes, it can.
It's been used to support blowing up women and children, to support torture and murder, to support rape and pillage, to support many, many horrific things throughout history.

It's also been used to support a lot of very good things. People like Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr and Mother Theresa come to mind. There are many others too.

Personally I have found ZERO proof.

But I have faith.
A faith based on my personal experiences. Totally unprovable and very biased, but things I believe.

I question these beliefs on a fairly regular basis.
Is it real? Or is it just a construct of my own mind to help me cope with a difficult reality?

So far, I still believe it is real.

But that's just my belief. YMMV

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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Some of His children earn a living in the prosthetic industry.

that's a very funny post of yours!

dont think u intended that tough..

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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So simple yet so few religious organizations truely understand this idea and live by it. Others are just confused by it and are "blinded" as the bible says they will be as they don't want to really see what is important.

I believe that one should read the Book of Job before placing any words or ideas as to why God does anything. Recall that God let Job get fucked up because of a bet. Recall that Job finally asked God why he was fucked up like that, and God told Job to shut the fuck up - when Job creates a universe, then he and God will chat. Until then, God had His reasons.

It's why it is sin to attribute any motive to God. For example, when God finally strikes down Fred Phelps for being a fag, I won't be the one saying that God put the dick down his throat that caused his death - it would be worthy of sending me to hell.

So God has His reasons for not healing amputees. My personal opinion is that He wants us to have amputee porn. But that's just me.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Some of His children earn a living in the prosthetic industry.

And here I'd thought that wars were only useful in supporting the military-industrial complex. I'll have to re-think that.

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Some of His children earn a living in the prosthetic industry.

God won't heal amputees because then some of "His" children would be out of work? So I guess that explains why he lets kids get cancer. I feel so much better now that I understand the reason for the suffering.

[RonD1120 62]

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Some of His children earn a living in the prosthetic industry.

that's a very funny post of yours!

dont think u intended that tough..

You don't think I have a sense of humor. Geez, that's one of my main reasons for hanging around here.

Teasing the libs is like teasing monkeys in a cage. They will throw s**t through the bars but they are still in the cage.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Some of His children earn a living in the prosthetic industry.

that's a very funny post of yours!

dont think u intended that tough..

You don't think I have a sense of humor. Geez, that's one of my main reasons for hanging around here.

Teasing the libs is like teasing monkeys in a cage. They will throw s**t through the bars but they are still in the cage.

and here you go again, being insulting, being "over-the-all-of-you".. good work ron, fuck jesus, right!?

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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Some of His children earn a living in the prosthetic industry.

that's a very funny post of yours!

dont think u intended that tough..

You don't think I have a sense of humor. Geez, that's one of my main reasons for hanging around here.

Teasing the libs is like teasing monkeys in a cage. They will throw s**t through the bars but they are still in the cage.

and here you go again, being insulting, being "over-the-all-of-you".. good work ron, fuck jesus, right!?

I think you just proved my point.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Some of His children earn a living in the prosthetic industry.

that's a very funny post of yours!

dont think u intended that tough..

You don't think I have a sense of humor. Geez, that's one of my main reasons for hanging around here.

Teasing the libs is like teasing monkeys in a cage. They will throw s**t through the bars but they are still in the cage.

and here you go again, being insulting, being "over-the-all-of-you".. good work ron, fuck jesus, right!?

I think you just proved my point.

yup, you got nothing to say, yet, you still open your mouth; kind of like a shit-throwing monkey does, right!?

“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.”
-Hunter S. Thompson
"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."
-Yoda

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Couldn't that same kind of "proof" be used to support heroin usage as well?

Sure, but, there is a little downside to heroin.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Couldn't that same kind of "proof" be used to support heroin usage as well?

Sure, but, there is a little downside to heroin.

The price?

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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what were Jesus's last words?

Oh God, what a way to spend Easter

Gone fishing

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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"So if God is so Almighty powerful, can he make a rock so big that he can't lift it?"

Famous line by George Carlin

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God is not found through miracles, because simply witnessing a miracle is not enough to find faith. According to the gospel, Jesus didn't perform miracles so that people would find faith, he performed miracles so that people would know he came from God and therefore may find faith (salvation) in his message. However, most people who witnessed the miracles of Jesus did put their faith in him.

Peter was asked to walk across the water over to Jesus. He knew by that point that Jesus was the Messiah, but still did not possess enough faith to be doubtless. It is a doubtless faith that saves, and that is a gift of the Holy Spirit, not a reward for righteousness.

The gospel teaches that "God is always at his work", and that his work is displayed everywhere.

No matter how much you try to convince yourself that God is not real because he hasnt shown you a miracle (that you perceive anyway), it doesnt take away from the truth. That witnessing a miracle is not enough for you to find the faith that saves.

38Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you."39He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

"We didn't start the fire"

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Hmm... amazing coincidence how the ceasing of miracles happened before mankind developed the ability to permanately record them in a verifiable manner? Too bad nobody had camcorders back then and we could have put the whole miracle question to rest, huh? O well, at least we have a book that we know is true because it says so in the book

one could say the same thing about the big bang theory, evolution, age of the planet, anything before video recording.

The Bible is not the only book with recorded data of the mericles God performed.

Nice try. Conclusions about the Big Bang, evolution and the age of the planet are all based upon peer-reviewed, scientific evidence and mathematical proofs. For the most part, the mythologies of the various faiths' scriptures are not.

Theists get themselves into intellectual trouble when they try to equate faith with science. They are separate.

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Or is it just a construct of my own mind to help me cope with a difficult reality?

Same question I have pondered. Genuineness is about being fair to your conscience, exploring everything in your own mind. The power of faith is underestimated, as it is not a power of ours, but of Gods.

The question is how is not having faith an expression of being able to deal with a "difficult reality" more so than having faith? Hard is hard and faith doesnt change that, nor does not having faith.

I believe it is a true statement to say that there is a death beyond dying, and a life beyond just being alive.

"We didn't start the fire"

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faith with science. They are separate

In your perception, not in mine.

"We didn't start the fire"

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I believe that one should read the Book of Job before placing any words or ideas as to why God does anything.

Agreed. I had a hard time with Job. I could see myself being one of the "foolish" friends giving bad advice, and to be honest, I didn't see much wisdom in that book until I read the gospel. The entire book of Job is summed up in these words of its author...

He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

"We didn't start the fire"

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Hmm... amazing coincidence how the ceasing of miracles happened before mankind developed the ability to permanately record them in a verifiable manner? Too bad nobody had camcorders back then and we could have put the whole miracle question to rest, huh? O well, at least we have a book that we know is true because it says so in the book

one could say the same thing about the big bang theory, evolution, age of the planet, anything before video recording.

The Bible is not the only book with recorded data of the mericles God performed.

Nice try. Conclusions about the Big Bang, evolution and the age of the planet are all based upon peer-reviewed, scientific evidence and mathematical proofs. For the most part, the mythologies of the various faiths' scriptures are not.

Theists get themselves into intellectual trouble when they try to equate faith with science. They are separate.

You are replying to someone else; not my words.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Hmm... amazing coincidence how the ceasing of miracles happened before mankind developed the ability to permanately record them in a verifiable manner? Too bad nobody had camcorders back then and we could have put the whole miracle question to rest, huh? O well, at least we have a book that we know is true because it says so in the book

one could say the same thing about the big bang theory, evolution, age of the planet, anything before video recording.

The Bible is not the only book with recorded data of the mericles God performed.

Nice try. Conclusions about the Big Bang, evolution and the age of the planet are all based upon peer-reviewed, scientific evidence and mathematical proofs. For the most part, the mythologies of the various faiths' scriptures are not.

Theists get themselves into intellectual trouble when they try to equate faith with science. They are separate.

You are replying to someone else; not my words.

I am replying to you; they are your words. While I was typing the reply, you deleted your post; but your originally-typed post was preserved here because I clicked the "Quote" link. I'm sure that refreshes your recollection.

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I believe it is a true statement to say that there is a death beyond dying, and a life beyond just being alive.

In your perception, not mine.

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In your perception, not mine.

Much more than fair enough!

"We didn't start the fire"

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Hmm... amazing coincidence how the ceasing of miracles happened before mankind developed the ability to permanately record them in a verifiable manner? Too bad nobody had camcorders back then and we could have put the whole miracle question to rest, huh? O well, at least we have a book that we know is true because it says so in the book

one could say the same thing about the big bang theory, evolution, age of the planet, anything before video recording.

The Bible is not the only book with recorded data of the mericles God performed.

Nice try. Conclusions about the Big Bang, evolution and the age of the planet are all based upon peer-reviewed, scientific evidence and mathematical proofs. For the most part, the mythologies of the various faiths' scriptures are not.

Theists get themselves into intellectual trouble when they try to equate faith with science. They are separate.

You are replying to someone else; not my words.

I am replying to you; they are your words. While I was typing the reply, you deleted your post; but your originally-typed post was preserved here because I clicked the "Quote" link. I'm sure that refreshes your recollection.

WRONG. NOT MY WORDS.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Hmm... amazing coincidence how the ceasing of miracles happened before mankind developed the ability to permanately record them in a verifiable manner? Too bad nobody had camcorders back then and we could have put the whole miracle question to rest, huh? O well, at least we have a book that we know is true because it says so in the book

one could say the same thing about the big bang theory, evolution, age of the planet, anything before video recording.

The Bible is not the only book with recorded data of the mericles God performed.

Nice try. Conclusions about the Big Bang, evolution and the age of the planet are all based upon peer-reviewed, scientific evidence and mathematical proofs. For the most part, the mythologies of the various faiths' scriptures are not.

Theists get themselves into intellectual trouble when they try to equate faith with science. They are separate.

You are replying to someone else; not my words.

I am replying to you; they are your words. While I was typing the reply, you deleted your post; but your originally-typed post was preserved here because I clicked the "Quote" link. I'm sure that refreshes your recollection.

WRONG. NOT MY WORDS.

Then it must have been someone else's deleted post. I don't think it's important enough to ask a moderator to check the deleted posts archive to see whose post that was, so I guess we'll just have to to leave it at that.