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Should medical marijuana patients be allowed to own guns?

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News:

Pot grower barred from buying guns

A medical-marijuana activist... has been barred from buying guns because he's a pot patient, according to an e-mail sent Tuesday by authorities.

The e-mail from the King County Sheriff's Office to Steve Sarich said paperwork authorizing him to use and grow marijuana for medical reasons was enough to deny him the possession of weapons.

Sarich, 59, said he tried to buy a shotgun and a pistol... He said he has no criminal record but failed the background check because federal laws prohibit "unlawful users" of controlled substances from buying or receiving guns.

Marijuana is illegal under federal law...
Source: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011483199_potactivist31.html




I would just be happy that anyone who gets drunk while hunting would be a trip to the county jail.

If you want to go hunting.. LEAVE the fucking BOOZE and BEER at home.

Of course that would exclude about 80% of fucking hunters who are just trying to get away from their families and party in the woods for a week.
If they want to do that.. LEAVE the fucking guns at home and go camping.

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Agreed..
Far too many Americans abuse drugs and alcohol and guns.
I suspect that the vast majority of accidental discharges are drug or alcohol related.
Ergo, I believe that medical marijuana users should be allowed to own guns, BUT is they are ever caught manipulating guns while stoned, they should spend a few weeks in jail, the same as if they were caught driving stoned or driving drunk.

In case I sound like a hypocrite, the only way I could solve my own bad habit of driving home from the pub drunk was to quit drinking alcohol. I have been sober for 14 years.
The last time I touched marijuana was a couple of years ago, when I was struggling to recover from injuries suffered in a plane crash. The night my buddy offered me a toke was my first complete night of sleep in two months.
Medical marijuana works, but should only be used briefly and only under after exhausting all other pain-killers.

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I think it should be treated the same as alcohol. You should be able to own a gun if you use the drug (alcohol or weed) legally but if you are under the influence and use the gun then your ass belongs to the judge. If you are under the influence and hurt somebody with that gun, then the judge can transfer possession of your ass to a guy named Bubba who you will share a cell with for the next 5-15 years.



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People who are drunk have no business driving or skydiving but they still have every right to defend themselves in a potentially deadly confrontation. The fact that A is sober and B is drunk in a confrontation between A and B does not necessarily mean that A is right and B is wrong.
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I think it should be treated the same as alcohol. You should be able to own a gun if you use the drug (alcohol or weed) legally but if you are under the influence and use the gun then your ass belongs to the judge. If you are under the influence and hurt somebody with that gun, then the judge can transfer possession of your ass to a guy named Bubba who you will share a cell with for the next 5-15 years.



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People who are drunk have no business driving or skydiving but they still have every right to defend themselves in a potentially deadly confrontation. The fact that A is sober and B is drunk in a confrontation between A and B does not necessarily mean that A is right and B is wrong.



I basically agree with you
I took it that if you use your gun wrong.

Hope that clears it up
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I would just be happy that anyone who gets drunk while hunting would be a trip to the county jail.
If you want to go hunting.. LEAVE the fucking BOOZE and BEER at home. Of course that would exclude about 80% of fucking hunters who are just trying to get away from their families and party in the woods for a week. If they want to do that.. LEAVE the fucking guns at home and go camping.



Should that rule apply to skydiving too?

Both hunters and skydivers can drink and participate in their activities in the same weekend, but do so responsibly by separating the activities in time. Hunt or jump during the day, drink at night. Nothing wrong with that.

You're proposal goes beyond that. You seem to want to lock them up just because they want to have a cold beer at the end of the day, while a gun is nearby. Beware of what you ask for...

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I would just be happy that anyone who gets drunk while hunting would be a trip to the county jail.
If you want to go hunting.. LEAVE the fucking BOOZE and BEER at home. Of course that would exclude about 80% of fucking hunters who are just trying to get away from their families and party in the woods for a week. If they want to do that.. LEAVE the fucking guns at home and go camping.



Should that rule apply to skydiving too?

Both hunters and skydivers can drink and participate in their activities in the same weekend, but do so responsibly by separating the activities in time. Hunt or jump during the day, drink at night. Nothing wrong with that.

You're proposal goes beyond that. You seem to want to lock them up just because they want to have a cold beer at the end of the day, while a gun is nearby. Beware of what you ask for...


So you are good with them having a cold one at the end of the day???

Cool

BUT you and I BOTH know it goes far beyond that when it gets to the DUMB ASS stage of "Here hold my beer, Watch this" stage.

If at the end of the day everyone unloads their weapons and locks them up... party on...

BUT

I have see too many stupid camp tricks with drunks shooting in the night.,>:(>:(>:(

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If at the end of the day everyone unloads their weapons and locks them up... party on...



I don't think anyone will argue that. That sounds more reasonable than your earlier post:

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I would just be happy that anyone who gets drunk while hunting would be a trip to the county jail.

If you want to go hunting.. LEAVE the fucking BOOZE and BEER at home.

Of course that would exclude about 80% of fucking hunters who are just trying to get away from their families and party in the woods for a week.
If they want to do that.. LEAVE the fucking guns at home and go camping.



Just like skydiving, it is ok to drink on a hunting trip/DZ. Just keep the hunting/skydiving seperated from the booz.

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I have see too many stupid camp tricks with drunks shooting in the night.,>:(>:(>:(



Sounds like you need to choose your friends better, or groups you hunt with.

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Sounds like you need to choose your friends better, or groups you hunt with.

I am VERY choosy.. trouble is most of the morons want to stay in similar camp sites. When I start hearing guns goping off at night while some dickweeds are partying... just down the road.. I get the hell out of the area. This is one of the reasons I really do like hunting in wilderness areas, you have to pack in by foot or on horseback, THAT cuts down on the number of SLOB HUNTERS drastically.

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Rather have a stoner with a gun than a drunk with a gun.



I do not care if EITHER group owns guns... BUT if you start doing STUPID shit with your guns while drunk or stoned.... you need to be held accountable, your RIGHT to own and to use them does not include endangering the people around you because you are too fucking stupid to handle them in a responsible manner.

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I agree, and every person who drives a car or flies a plane or rides a motorcycle, or operates a train ... I think you get the point... should take responsability for thier actions regardless of circumstance. Just sayin I preffer the stoners over the drunks... jusss sayin :)

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I agree, and every person who drives a car or flies a plane or rides a motorcycle, or operates a train ... I think you get the point... should take responsability for thier actions regardless of circumstance. Just sayin I preffer the stoners over the drunks... jusss sayin :)




Are you advocating that eveyone who owns and operates a GUN should be licensed????

All the things you listed require that in some form

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Rather have a stoner with a gun than a drunk with a gun.



I do not care if EITHER group owns guns... BUT if you start doing STUPID shit with your guns while drunk or stoned.... you need to be held accountable, your RIGHT to own and to use them does not include endangering the people around you because you are too fucking stupid to handle them in a responsible manner.



How about if we just remove the words "while drunk or stoned" from that paragraph and run with it?

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Rather have a stoner with a gun than a drunk with a gun.



I do not care if EITHER group owns guns... BUT if you start doing STUPID shit with your guns while drunk or stoned.... you need to be held accountable, your RIGHT to own and to use them does not include endangering the people around you because you are too fucking stupid to handle them in a responsible manner.



How about if we just remove the words "while drunk or stoned" from that paragraph and run with it?

James




Are you advocating gun controll???

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If by "gun control" you mean the ability to put rounds on target then yes I am.;)

What I meant was that I like the sound of "If you start doing Stupid shit with your guns you need to be held accountable". I fully believe that people should be held accountable for their actions be they staight/drunk/stoned/sober or whatever.

James

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If by "gun control" you mean the ability to put rounds on target then yes I am.;)

What I meant was that I like the sound of "If you start doing Stupid shit with your guns you need to be held accountable". I fully believe that people should be held accountable for their actions be they staight/drunk/stoned/sober or whatever.

James




So you are wanting the "nanny state" to ensure this responsibility????


The stupid fuckers who are supposed to be protecting and serving cant even get off their fat asses to make sure children are not harmed, or the myriad of OTHER things they are supposed to be doing. Hell they are too busy writing traffic tickets so they can pay for all their new toys.... in between coffee and swilling donuts breaks.

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I have see too many stupid camp tricks with drunks shooting in the night.,



Then punish the ones that are actually guilty, but leave alone the responsible ones. I am not in favor of putting restrictions on an entire group of any kind, just because a few members of that group act irresponsibly. I believe the guilty should be punished, not the innocent.

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