kallend 2,108 #51 April 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteIf all you can do to support your claim is bicker over the difference between implementing a law and enforcing it, you don't have much of a case. EXISTING law prohibits the sale of guns to felons. Correct, at least since GCA '68. QuoteNICS checks are a way of enforcing that law. NICS checks are only required by federal law of sales by licensed dealers. Correct. QuoteNICS checks are not required of private purchases. Also correct, on a Federal level. QuoteBills to require NICS checks of private purchases have been introduced at the state and federal level. Also correct. QuoteThe gun lobby has opposed such bills at the state and federal level. Cites were provided by me. Also correct. QuoteThat has been my position all along, and all of it is true. None of the above proves your 'gun lobby preventing enforcement of existing law' claim, sorry. I can't help your poor comprehension.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #52 April 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf all you can do to support your claim is bicker over the difference between implementing a law and enforcing it, you don't have much of a case. EXISTING law prohibits the sale of guns to felons. Correct, at least since GCA '68. QuoteNICS checks are a way of enforcing that law. NICS checks are only required by federal law of sales by licensed dealers. Correct. QuoteNICS checks are not required of private purchases. Also correct, on a Federal level. QuoteBills to require NICS checks of private purchases have been introduced at the state and federal level. Also correct. QuoteThe gun lobby has opposed such bills at the state and federal level. Cites were provided by me. Also correct. QuoteThat has been my position all along, and all of it is true. None of the above proves your 'gun lobby preventing enforcement of existing law' claim, sorry. I can't help your poor comprehension. I can't help your lies, either.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #53 April 6, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf all you can do to support your claim is bicker over the difference between implementing a law and enforcing it, you don't have much of a case. EXISTING law prohibits the sale of guns to felons. Correct, at least since GCA '68. QuoteNICS checks are a way of enforcing that law. NICS checks are only required by federal law of sales by licensed dealers. Correct. QuoteNICS checks are not required of private purchases. Also correct, on a Federal level. QuoteBills to require NICS checks of private purchases have been introduced at the state and federal level. Also correct. QuoteThe gun lobby has opposed such bills at the state and federal level. Cites were provided by me. Also correct. QuoteThat has been my position all along, and all of it is true. None of the above proves your 'gun lobby preventing enforcement of existing law' claim, sorry. I can't help your poor comprehension. I can't help your lies, either. Just because YOU can't understand something doesn't make it a lie.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #54 April 6, 2010 QuoteJust because YOU can't understand something don't believe my bullshit doesn't make it a lie. Fixed that for you, and yeah, it does. Unless, of course, you have PROOF that the gun lobby is somehow preventing NICS checks from being done, or forcing private sellers to make sales to known felons. You know, that pesky 'ENFORCEMENT of EXISTING law' that you were so vigorously bemoaning. Since you're so adamant about enforcement of existing law, I'm SURE that you are weekly writing your Congresscritters and demanding that they have ATF destroy the NICS records after 24 hours, as existing law demands.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #55 April 6, 2010 Just because YOU can't understand something doesn't make it a lie. It means, after the 10th time of explanation, that you are incapable of understanding.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #56 April 6, 2010 Quote Just because YOU can't understand something doesn't make it a lie. It means, after the 10th time of explanation, that you are incapable of understanding. Rhys has explained the 9/11 conspiracy to us hundreds or thousands of times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #57 April 6, 2010 Pity you can't apologize for making provably false accusations that you know to have been false.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #58 April 6, 2010 Quote Pity you can't apologize for making provably false accusations that you know to have been false. right back at you, grandpa. If after 10 explanations you still can't get it, it may mean that you're not just capable of understanding it. Old dogs, new tricks problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #59 April 6, 2010 QuoteQuote Pity you can't apologize for making provably false accusations that you know to have been false. right back at you, grandpa. If after 10 explanations you still can't get it, it may mean that you're not just capable of understanding it. Old dogs, new tricks problem. Which one of these assertions is false, kid? EXISTING law prohibits the sale of guns to felons. NICS checks are a way of enforcing that law. NICS checks are only required by federal law of sales by licensed dealers. NICS checks are not required of private purchases. Bills to require NICS checks of private purchases have been introduced at the state and federal level in order to make it more difficult for felons to buy guns in violation of the existing law prohibiting such purchases. The gun lobby has opposed such bills at the state and federal level. (Cites were provided previously by me). Well?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #60 April 6, 2010 Quote...after the 10th time of explanation... So why don't you quit saying the same things over and over again. Learn to walk away. Ah, but your ego won't let you, will it. You absolutely MUST have the last word! He who speaks last, wins! Therefore, we can all look forward to hearing you say the same thing over and over again, for an 11th time, and beyond... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #61 April 6, 2010 Quote .... Therefore, we can all look forward to hearing you say the same thing over and over again, for an 11th time, and beyond... That's fate of teachers. Seems, you never heard that ... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #62 April 6, 2010 Quote Quote .... Therefore, we can all look forward to hearing you say the same thing over and over again, for an 11th time, and beyond... That's fate of teachers. Seems, you never heard that ... As well as conspiracy nuts and other idiots. Mere repetition does not make something factual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #63 April 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote .... Therefore, we can all look forward to hearing you say the same thing over and over again, for an 11th time, and beyond... That's fate of teachers. Seems, you never heard that ... As well as conspiracy nuts and other idiots. Mere repetition does not make something factual. So Which one of these assertions is false? Should be easy for you. EXISTING law prohibits the sale of guns to felons. NICS checks are a way of enforcing that law. NICS checks are only required by federal law of sales by licensed dealers. NICS checks are not required of private purchases. Bills to require NICS checks of private purchases have been introduced at the state and federal level in order to make it more difficult for felons to buy guns in violation of the existing law prohibiting such purchases. The gun lobby has opposed such bills at the state and federal level. (Cites were provided previously by me).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #64 April 7, 2010 Learn to walk away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #65 April 7, 2010 QuoteLearn to walk away. Why don't you tell that to Mike Neal?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #66 April 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteLearn to walk away. Why don't you tell that to Mike Neal? Hey, all you have to do is show where the 'gun lobby is preventing enforcement of existing law' - you know, preventing dealers from making NICS checks or forcing private owners to sell to known criminals.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #67 April 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteLearn to walk away. Why don't you tell that to Mike Neal? Hey, all you have to do is show where the 'gun lobby is preventing enforcement of existing law' - you know, preventing dealers from making NICS checks or forcing private owners to sell to known criminals. Strawman. That is NOT what I claimed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #68 April 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteLearn to walk away. Why don't you tell that to Mike Neal? Hey, all you have to do is show where the 'gun lobby is preventing enforcement of existing law' - you know, preventing dealers from making NICS checks or forcing private owners to sell to known criminals. Strawman. That is NOT what I claimed. Ah, so you don't have any proof of the gun lobby interfering with the enforcement of existing laws - that's good because, after all, Quote You'll find that admitting your intellectual dishonesty is the first step to overcoming it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #69 April 7, 2010 Quote the gun lobby interfering with the enforcement of existing laws SAME LAME STRAWMAN again. That is NOT what I claimed in the MArch 4 post, or any other. EXISTING law prohibits the sale of guns to felons. NICS checks are a way of enforcing that law. NICS checks are only required by federal law of sales by licensed dealers. NICS checks are not required of private purchases. Bills to require NICS checks of private purchases have been introduced at the state and federal level in order to make it more difficult for felons to buy guns in violation of the existing law prohibiting such purchases. The gun lobby has opposed such bills at the state and federal level. (Cites were provided previously by me). QED... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #70 April 7, 2010 QuoteNICS checks are a way of enforcing that law. No - identification does not equal enforcement. But, while we're on that tack, why don't you show us all the convictions for Brady law violations compared to Brady law refusals, perfesser - since going after that 0.7% is so damned important vs. the 80% to you. QuoteThe gun lobby has opposed such bills at the state and federal level. (Cites were provided previously by me). Opposition to EXPANSION of a law does not equal a change in enforcement of a law.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #71 April 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteLearn to walk away. Why don't you tell that to Mike Neal? You two are the only ones still going at it to ridiculous lengths. If one of you walks away, the other won't have any reason to continue. Have the guts to be the one to stop. All you do with your continued repetition is render yourself moot. Honestly, I don't even bother to read about 90% of what you write any more. When I see your name, I just skip right over it. That's what you've done to yourself by behaving like this. With repetition, you just cheapen your own message, and render it less valuable and potent. Learn to say something once, and mean it. Explain further once or twice if necessary. But then let it go. Those intelligent enough to understand your point will have done so by then. Those that don't, never will. You're never going to convince everyone, and you need to accept that. With your current modus operandi, you just make yourself irrelevant. Learn to walk away. People will respect you more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #72 April 7, 2010 QuoteQuoteLearn to walk away. Why don't you tell that to Mike Neal? both of you... just let it go. it's gone back and forth for what now... 2 pages? just let it go-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #73 May 25, 2010 The latest installment in this series: "FBI says violent crime rate down again" http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ilVP2h1npd9Ma4TDw6o4plHxv7zQD9FT9GJO0 Got the message yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #74 May 25, 2010 Did not. Did to. Did not. Did to. I'm so glad I get to drop in on these philosophical discussions between mental giants. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #75 May 26, 2010 I'm glad we got all of that out of the way quickly this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
