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in 2012?



Well, the 12/20/2012 thing is intriguing. Who knows?

I just want to be ready to meet Jesus on a day by day, moment to moment basis.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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I just want to be ready to meet Jesus on a day by day, moment to moment basis.



and that is cool. But is there not millions of atheists, agnostics, and other religious or not religious folk out there who live the same way? with morals, kindness, and care for their fellow man?

I think what these so called christophobes are "afraid" of is that organized church provides something to rally alongside and back mafia mentality. To presume JC, like you said, would back any kind of political party is ludicrous.

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So, lets take a look at the 'facts' (such as they are) in this case:) ...

  • The ' accused' was seen feeding poor people, who had no food of their own (scroungers?) with a couple of fish and a few slices of bread....

  • He was caught healing folk who carried no health insurance and didn't offer him any payment for his services..

  • He upset a bunch of Capitalists and their money tables

    I put it to you, that these are the acts of a traitor to the Capitalist cause .... nay it even makes him a card carrying [cough] ..... Socialist.



    In his defense.... it has been stated that he did not in fact exists and that some of the stories have been made up, whilst others are better attributed to any number of other people ... an amalgam of personalities passed off as a single one:P

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    Christianity is destined for obscurity and irrelevance....a mere footnote in human history, like all religions, past and present. :o:ph34r:

    "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings."
    "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."

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    The only form of government that is indicated in Scripture is theocracy. Jesus will establish His theocratic government when He returns to begin His Millennial reign. Until then we have to do the best we can with what we have. I don't believe in socialism.

    God is neither Republican or Democrat. Some folks do not understand that.



    Let me get this straight, Ron.

    Let's say someone comes along and convincingly presents him or herself as the second coming of Jesus. They sell the idea and establish a large band of followers. Would you go along with them when they work to overthrow the current secular government of the USA, to establish a "christian" theocratic government?

    That certainly isn't what one would expect from people who love this country and consider themselves patriots. Quite the opposite. Next thing you know proposing secession from the Union will be considered patriotic. Oh yeah, in Texas, it already is.

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    Or you could just send out a mass email with this link.

    http://getsavedonline.org/



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    There is absolutely no cost to join the kingdom of God! There are no hidden fees or membership costs either. John 3:16...

    ...Take control of my life and help me be what You want me to be. I repent of my sins and surrender myself totally and completely to You.



    That's a lot to ask, even if it's for free.

    Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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    May I suggest the people that taught you through their life, havent got a clue what they are talking about?
    furthermore , its not hard to look up the word socialist on wikipeddia.
    Perhaps you might answer my other points?



    Insulting my grandparents, parents, ranking NCO's and officers, colleagues, co-workers and supervising managers is not a very diplomatic approach. But, I'll let it slide considering your social upbringing.

    Andy9o8 made a supporting post for you and to me that Obama is not a socialist. I accept that.

    Conservatism and capitalism do not fall in the same concept as evolution of species.

    Done.
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    Christianity is destined for obscurity and irrelevance....a mere footnote in human history, like all religions, past and present. :o:ph34r:



    Well then, I guess that settles it, Christophobes win.
    Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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    I don't think there is any truely Islamic country. Saudi Arabia and that region has been poluted by Wahibi salafist thinking. Corruption is everywhere. I guess the problem with religion is man.
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    Let me get this straight, Ron.

    Let's say someone comes along and convincingly presents him or herself as the second coming of Jesus. They sell the idea and establish a large band of followers. Would you go along with them when they work to overthrow the current secular government of the USA, to establish a "christian" theocratic government?

    That certainly isn't what one would expect from people who love this country and consider themselves patriots. Quite the opposite. Next thing you know proposing secession from the Union will be considered patriotic. Oh yeah, in Texas, it already is.



    You lack Scriptural understanding. No one can sell themselves as "The Second Advent." It will be factually determined following the seven year tribulation period and will occur at Mt. Olivet in Israel.
    Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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    No one can sell themselves as "The Second Advent." It will be factually determined following the seven year tribulation period and will occur at Mt. Olivet in Israel.



    What do you believe will happen during the seven year tribulation? (I am somewhat familiar with what the Bible says, but since there are so many differing opinions, I am asking specifically what you believe.)

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    What do you believe will happen during the seven year tribulation? (I am somewhat familiar with what the Bible says, but since there are so many differing opinions, I am asking specifically what you believe.)



    Like you, I have been reading about, listening to tapes and lectures and discussing the tribulation since I surrendered to Jesus in 1981. Bottom line, I don't have a clear understanding beyond the basic prophetic time line.

    1. The anti-christ will establish world peace through world order.
    2. The peace will last 3.5 years until he defiles the temple in Jerusalem.
    3. Chaos, misery, death, disease and worse maladies will begin and last the final 3.5 years.
    4. Jesus Christ will return in the flesh at Mt. Olivet and begin His millennial reign following the defeat of the anti-christ an his minions on the Plain of Megiddo.

    Marv Rosenthal publisher of "Zion's Fire" magazine has been producing an in depth academic study on the Revelation, Rapture and Second Coming for the past year of so.
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    What do you believe will happen during the seven year tribulation? (I am somewhat familiar with what the Bible says, but since there are so many differing opinions, I am asking specifically what you believe.)



    Like you, I have been reading about, listening to tapes and lectures and discussing the tribulation since I surrendered to Jesus in 1981. Bottom line, I don't have a clear understanding beyond the basic prophetic time line.

    1. The anti-christ will establish world peace through world order.
    2. The peace will last 3.5 years until he defiles the temple in Jerusalem.
    3. Chaos, misery, death, disease and worse maladies will begin and last the final 3.5 years.
    4. Jesus Christ will return in the flesh at Mt. Olivet and begin His millennial reign following the defeat of the anti-christ an his minions on the Plain of Megiddo.

    Marv Rosenthal publisher of "Zion's Fire" magazine has been producing an in depth academic study on the Revelation, Rapture and Second Coming for the past year of so.



    Where's Bill Cole when you need him?
    "Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings."
    "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."

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    What do you believe will happen during the seven year tribulation? (I am somewhat familiar with what the Bible says, but since there are so many differing opinions, I am asking specifically what you believe.)



    Like you, I have been reading about, listening to tapes and lectures and discussing the tribulation since I surrendered to Jesus in 1981. Bottom line, I don't have a clear understanding beyond the basic prophetic time line.

    1. The anti-christ will establish world peace through world order.
    2. The peace will last 3.5 years until he defiles the temple in Jerusalem.
    3. Chaos, misery, death, disease and worse maladies will begin and last the final 3.5 years.
    4. Jesus Christ will return in the flesh at Mt. Olivet and begin His millennial reign following the defeat of the anti-christ an his minions on the Plain of Megiddo.

    Marv Rosenthal publisher of "Zion's Fire" magazine has been producing an in depth academic study on the Revelation, Rapture and Second Coming for the past year of so.
    :D:D:D:D:D:D
    That would not be funnier if Micheal Palin read it:D:D

    OH and how come the re-resurrection of your chirst will only be a "millennial reign" has he got somewhere else to be. Does he not have the time for us, given his all mightness has pretty much abandoned us and left us to the Muslim/Taoist/Hindhi/Budhist/shinto/jewish/and assorted other heathen hordes for 2 millennia.
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    Like you, I have been reading about, listening to tapes and lectures and discussing the tribulation since I surrendered to Jesus in 1981.



    Well, it's not really "like me" because I haven't been doing any of those things. I've only read enough to have some idea of what it's about. I was just curious about your belief, so thanks for answering.


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    1. The anti-christ will establish world peace through world order.
    2. The peace will last 3.5 years until he defiles the temple in Jerusalem.
    3. Chaos, misery, death, disease and worse maladies will begin and last the final 3.5 years.
    4. Jesus Christ will return in the flesh at Mt. Olivet and begin His millennial reign following the defeat of the anti-christ an his minions on the Plain of Megiddo.



    I don't envision world peace happening any time soon (if ever). But if it did happen, I'd be concerned that those who believe this stuff would intentionally do something to end the peace in 3.5 years. (Hmm, I think Tom Robbins wrote a book about that.)

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    Let me get this straight, Ron.

    Let's say someone comes along and convincingly presents him or herself as the second coming of Jesus. They sell the idea and establish a large band of followers. Would you go along with them when they work to overthrow the current secular government of the USA, to establish a "christian" theocratic government?

    That certainly isn't what one would expect from people who love this country and consider themselves patriots. Quite the opposite. Next thing you know proposing secession from the Union will be considered patriotic. Oh yeah, in Texas, it already is.



    You lack Scriptural understanding. No one can sell themselves as "The Second Advent." It will be factually determined following the seven year tribulation period and will occur at Mt. Olivet in Israel.



    This sure seems like a YES answer to my question.

    You WILL go along with whomever makes a convincing case that they are the Second Coming.

    Nice...

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