Half of U.S. pays no federal income tax

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The bottom 40 percent, on average, make a profit from the federal income tax, meaning they get more money in tax credits than they would otherwise owe in taxes. For those people, the government sends them a payment.

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The bottom 40 percent, on average, make a profit from the federal income tax, meaning they get more money in tax credits than they would otherwise owe in taxes. For those people, the government sends them a payment.

Sucks to be poor/homeless/unemployed/disabled. On the whole I wouldn't trade places with them.

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Apparently Exxon Mobil (albeit a corporation) is among those that didn't pay any income tax in 2009:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/06/exxon-tax/

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Sucks to be poor/homeless/unemployed/disabled/ExxonMobil

fixie.

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The bottom 40 percent, on average, make a profit from the federal income tax, meaning they get more money in tax credits than they would otherwise owe in taxes. For those people, the government sends them a payment.

if they get sent payments of millions we can call them bankers

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Sucks to be poor/homeless/unemployed/disabled. On the whole I wouldn't trade places with them.

And that makes up half the population? No wonder al the good parking spaces are full.

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I'm not surprised there's a large percentage, but the figure is a little higher than I expected.

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I'm not surprised there's a large percentage, but the figure is a little higher than I expected.

What's more telling is the amount of people who instantly jump in to defend the practice. Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get more. Of course they aren't willing to give any themselves. They'll just insist that other's pay more in taxes. See... liberals equate supporting government handouts to actually caring. Ask one of them how many checks they've written or hours they've spent at a food kitchen. Voting for the wealthy to pay more in taxes helps them sleep better. Sad really.

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I'm not surprised there's a large percentage, but the figure is a little higher than I expected.

What's more telling is the amount of people who instantly jump in to defend the practice. Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get more. Of course they aren't willing to give any themselves. They'll just insist that other's pay more in taxes. See... liberals equate supporting government handouts to actually caring. Ask one of them how many checks they've written or hours they've spent at a food kitchen. Voting for the wealthy to pay more in taxes helps them sleep better. Sad really.

What's more telling is the amount of people who instantly jump in to defend the practice of using sophisticated tax shelters to avoid paying taxes that "ordinary" slobs pay because, well, said slobs just don't have the kind of loot to be able to ante into the big boys' game. Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get even more exemptions and shelters that are simply out of the question for the average middle class family trying to keep their home and get their kids through state college.
Of course, they won't offer to pay any more taxes themselves, or to give up their loss-on-investment exemptions. See, right-wingers - and of course all conservatives must be painted with a broad, derisive brush - equate the social infrastructure, like roads, police, public education, firefighters, public health inspectors, air traffic control, etc., as something to be paid for with other people's taxes, but certainly not their own, if they can avoid it. Ask one of them how many checks they've written or hours they've spent at a food kitchen. Voting for lower middle class people who don't have employer-based health insurance to not have a unified health care system like every other country does, while voting themselves even more tax cuts, helps them sleep better. Sad, really.

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I'm not surprised there's a large percentage, but the figure is a little higher than I expected.

What's more telling is the amount of people who instantly jump in to defend the practice. Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get more. Of course they aren't willing to give any themselves. They'll just insist that other's pay more in taxes. See... liberals equate supporting government handouts to actually caring. Ask one of them how many checks they've written or hours they've spent at a food kitchen. Voting for the wealthy to pay more in taxes helps them sleep better. Sad really.

What's more telling is the amount of people who instantly jump in to defend the practice of using sophisticated tax shelters to avoid paying taxes that "ordinary" slobs pay because, well, said slobs just don't have the kind of loot to be able to ante into the big boys' game. Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get even more exemptions and shelters that are simply out of the question for the average middle class family trying to keep their home and get their kids through state college.
Of course, they won't offer to pay any more taxes themselves, or to give up their loss-on-investment exemptions. See, right-wingers - and of course all conservatives must be painted with a broad, derisive brush - equate the social infrastructure, like roads, police, public education, firefighters, public health inspectors, air traffic control, etc., as something to be paid for with other people's taxes, but certainly not their own, if they can avoid it. Ask one of them how many checks they've written or hours they've spent at a food kitchen. Voting for lower middle class people who don't have employer-based health insurance to not have a unified health care system like every other country does, while voting themselves even more tax cuts, helps them sleep better. Sad, really.

Thanks. Point proven. The rich don't pay enough to make you happy so they're evil. They're evil for wanting to keep their own money. You somehow feel like you care about the poor because you want them to pay more. The billions of dollars they shell out in taxes every year isn't enough for you and your deficit led handouts. Demonizing the wealthy seems so much easier than actually working to fix the problem.

And every other country has a healthcare plan now? Seems like I've touched a nerve. Calm down. There's no reason to get upset. Just keep blaming the country's problems on the wealthy and maybe we'll get somewhere. Keep bitching that their billions aren't enough. I'm sure the budget will balance itself and then each and every one one of us can have checks arrive in the mail along with our free quality healthcare. It's so easy to complain that other people aren't doing enough for your agendas, isn't it?

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>Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get
> more. Of course they aren't willing to give any themselves. They'll just
>insist that other's pay more in taxes.

I'm a liberal and I'm one of the people paying more in taxes - and I'm willing to pay more if the objective is good enough. Looks like your rant is a bit mis-aimed.

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I'm not surprised there's a large percentage, but the figure is a little higher than I expected.

What's more telling is the amount of people who instantly jump in to defend the practice. Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get more. Of course they aren't willing to give any themselves. They'll just insist that other's pay more in taxes. See... liberals equate supporting government handouts to actually caring. Ask one of them how many checks they've written or hours they've spent at a food kitchen. Voting for the wealthy to pay more in taxes helps them sleep better. Sad really.

I'm a liberal and I'm one of the people paying more in taxes - a lot more, and I'm willing to pay more if the objective is good enough.

Sad thing is that there is such a disparity in income between the bankers who brought us this lovely RECESSION and still walked away with $Millions in bonuses, and the poor SOB's who lost their jobs on account of the recession and have to rely on taxpayer handouts..

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It's so easy to complain that other people aren't doing enough for your agendas, isn't it?

you seem to find it easy

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Apparently Exxon Mobil (albeit a corporation) is among those that didn't pay any income tax in 2009:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/06/exxon-tax/

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Sucks to be poor/homeless/unemployed/disabled/ExxonMobil

fixie.

I wonder how much we subsidized them last year.

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>Some of them, if not all, will continue further and bitch that they don't get
> more. Of course they aren't willing to give any themselves. They'll just
>insist that other's pay more in taxes.

I'm a liberal and I'm one of the people paying more in taxes - and I'm willing to pay more if the objective is good enough. Looks like your rant is a bit mis-aimed.

Not really. Pretty much proves my point exactly. Liberals equate paying taxes to caring. When have you ever written a check to the government saying "For good objectives only?" Paying your federally mandated taxes does not mean it goes towards a good objective and it certainly doesn't mean you care about the poor. It means you paid your taxes; that's it.

Then people have the audacity to bitch and wine because the wealthy aren't contributing more to the 40% of the population getting a check in the mail for free.

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It's so easy to complain that other people aren't doing enough for your agendas, isn't it?

you seem to find it easy

Do try and keep up. I realize it's difficult without an alternet link to copy and paste.

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Apparently Exxon Mobil (albeit a corporation) is among those that didn't pay any income tax in 2009:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/06/exxon-tax/

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Sucks to be poor/homeless/unemployed/disabled/ExxonMobil

fixie.

I wonder how much we subsidized them last year.

Exxon pays billions in taxes every year.... although thinkprogress is usually such a reliable source, I would suggest reading a little further.

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Sad thing is that there is such a disparity in income between the bankers who brought us this lovely RECESSION

Lately we have not agreed on much, but this is one area where I think you will find we do have some common ground with each other. Not so much on the salary front (the salaries of bankers does not bother me as much as it bothers you), but in how the global banking community created this recession to further their agenda. Honestly I can't see it happening, but getting away from the Federal Reserve (Bank of Canada, Bank of England, etc, etc, etc) is the only way the common people on the street will ever see the light of day. How much of the tax revenues governments collect goes towards serving the debt to these global private bankers? It's mind boggling how society allowed such a thing to happen ...

When it comes to the global bankers, there is little difference if a Democrat or a Republican is in power. Little difference if a Conservative or a Liberal is in power. We are all being setup as the banker's slaves.

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> Liberals equate paying taxes to caring.

No, I equate it to paying for services, like roads, air traffic control, emergent medical and fire services, the military, NASA etc. Some of them are used by everyone; some are used by only a few.

> Paying your federally mandated taxes does not mean it goes towards a
>good objective and it certainly doesn't mean you care about the poor. It
>means you paid your taxes; that's it.

Correct. It just means you are supporting the US government with all its expenses - the military, the CDC etc. It behooves us to make sure those are good uses of money, because later we don't have a choice on what to support.

I do find it funny that the very people who wave the "SUPPORT THE TROOPS!" flag would also be the first to refuse to do so if they had that option.

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It's so easy to complain that other people aren't doing enough for your agendas, isn't it?

you seem to find it easy

Do try and keep up. I realize it's difficult without an alternet link to copy and paste.

increasing the minimum wage will mean a lot more people paying income tax - problem solved for you

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About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.

2 distinct classes of folks here being lumped together. If we have people who have enough deductions and exemptions that 'should' be paying some income tax that needs to be addressed.

When it comes to Federal Income Tax you shouldn't get back any more than you paid in.

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This thread goes hand-in-hand with the thread called "How will the United States end?"

When over half the people can vote to keep paying nothing, forcing the other half to pay for benefits for everyone else, then we no longer have a democracy/republic - we have a tyranny of the majority, which is what our government structure was designed to prevent.

Those few who pay the taxes to support everyone else will no longer have an incentive to work hard and prosper. And then America will spiral out of control into bankruptcy and chaos. That's exactly where we're headed, because we've become a bunch of spoiled brats who want everything for ourselves right now, even though we can't afford it.

That chaos will give us an opportunity to start over again, returning to our roots, and throwing off the decades of nonsense that our government has heaped upon us. We need politicians who promise us less government, not more, and citizens willing to vote for them.

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We need politicians who promise us less government, not more, and citizens willing to vote for them.

Better...we need politicians who actually do what they promised during the campaign. Every last one of them at some point promise less government but very few deliver.

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Those few who pay the taxes to support everyone else will no longer have an incentive to work hard and prosper.

pay the workers a decent minimum wage and they'll earn enough to pay income tax
(i hear the rich and their bankers are still prospering - odd)

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Sad thing is that there is such a disparity in income between the bankers who brought us this lovely RECESSION

Lately we have not agreed on much, but this is one area where I think you will find we do have some common ground with each other. Not so much on the salary front (the salaries of bankers does not bother me as much as it bothers you), but in how the global banking community created this recession to further their agenda. Honestly I can't see it happening, but getting away from the Federal Reserve (Bank of Canada, Bank of England, etc, etc, etc) is the only way the common people on the street will ever see the light of day. How much of the tax revenues governments collect goes towards serving the debt to these global private bankers? It's mind boggling how society allowed such a thing to happen ...

When it comes to the global bankers, there is little difference if a Democrat or a Republican is in power. Little difference if a Conservative or a Liberal is in power. We are all being setup as the banker's slaves.

Not really that mind boggling. The international monetary system is so complex most just don't understand it or how it works. They probably don't care either.

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