The diplomatic discussion on using the system to your advantage.

[rhys 0]

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I beleive a well presented and concise hypothesis

The facts are more important than being well presented and concise. Not surprising that you wouldn't rate that as high as being slick and short.

well prsented and concise does not necessarily exclude facts, it is clear there are facts that you ignore but those that you oppose have studied intently woth years of knowledge in the field.

You just callthem lyers and frauds.

That is 9/11 this conversaton is not, if you can't stick to the subject then butt out and go elsewhere!

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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I must admit I intentionally plucked a few strings to get such reactions.

Didn't finish the read nor is there a need...

....troll.

I suppse you can tell whether a book is any good by the picture on the front too?

Thats a talent you got there you know.

And only one of many.

Chuck Akers
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Houston, TX

[jakee 1,489]

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I beleive a well presented and concise hypothesis,

Concise? You have consistently refused to choose between any number of contradictory truther theories for what actually brought down the towers. You don't have any hypothesis for what actually happened.

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you say I am wrong, and beleive a different more vague and spread out hypothesis that goes against newtons laws of gravity.

What are "newtons laws of gravity"?

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You usual tactic of insulting peope and attacking thier integrety

No dude, that's your tactic. I've told you about this before - you can't go crying to the teacher when the other kids do to you what you've been doing to them.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rhys 0]

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I showed how your guy's data absolutely does not support his claims of freefall acceleration, and all you did was say that it didn't matter. It seems not to matter to you what is proven, you don't debate intellectually, just avoid the real issues, change the subject and pretend as if the facts always support your assertions.

Very similar to what has happened in this thread.

When you begin to describe yourself like that in an attempt to describe me, it means you have become aware of what it is you are doing and instead of accepting fault you are trying to blame me for your shortcomings, that is why you guys are so rifed up over a simple act yet you fail to condem the atrocities that happen before your eyes n a daily basis.

You put this energy into it because you dislike me and my beliefs, not becasue you are so anti what I did.

That is obvious, but you would like us to think you are acting out of the goodness of your heart.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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> but for this reason I would never send goods to anyone without payment . . .

. . . because there are people out there like you?

So true.

(Spin it anyway you like to make yourself feel better, rhys but you are wrong)

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I showed how your guy's data absolutely does not support his claims of freefall acceleration, and all you did was say that it didn't matter. It seems not to matter to you what is proven, you don't debate intellectually, just avoid the real issues, change the subject and pretend as if the facts always support your assertions.

Very similar to what has happened in this thread.

When you begin to describe yourself like that in an attempt to describe me, it means you have become aware of what it is you are doing and instead of accepting fault you are trying to blame me for your shortcomings, that is why you guys are so rifed up over a simple act yet you fail to condem the atrocities that happen before your eyes n a daily basis.

You put this energy into it because you dislike me and my beliefs, not becasue you are so anti what I did.

That is obvious, but you would like us to think you are acting out of the goodness of your heart.

What you are not getting is this has nothing to do with your beliefs dude

It has everything to do with your actions and then the lame attempts to justify said actions.

Many, inclding me would never trust you after this thread any further and we could throw you. And you caused this mistrust by YOUR actions and justifications.

You provided the data. YOU just dont like others opinions of YOUR data (situation/actions)

I just wonder who you are going to screw next. Someone close to you? I for one would never give you a chance to hose me over. I can see a comment such as "he is such a lame (insert political description here)he voted for (insert canidate here) or supported (insert topic here)and he deserves it".

Glad you can sleep with yourself. I couldnt

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[champu 1]

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Didn't finish the read nor is there a need...

....troll.

I suppse you can tell whether a book is any good by the picture on the front too?

Thats a talent you got there you know.

Well... if you look just below the picture you'll usually find the author's name, and that may be all you need to know.

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I have a nephew who, when he was a teenager, spent a lot of time in custody of the courts. He had a very simple problem...he thought anything that wasn't fastened down or in the physical possession of somebody was free to take. Tools, car parts, you name it and he probably stole it at some point. In his mind he was doing no wrong.
Your "justification" of your actions are eerily similar.

The difference is that he broke the law and was dishonest! does that run in the family?

You also broke the law are were dishonest.
You also don't understand how/why what you did was wrong regardless of how many people explain it to you.

HAMMER:
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You also broke the law are were dishonest.

I don't think he broke the law. However, "not breaking the law" shouldn't be the definition of "OK."

Breaking the law is where it gets really bad -- life isn't a contest to see just how sleazy we can be without actually breaking the law.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I think he did, but I also think it is one of those situations where if a judge had to decide it would come down to whether the judge got laid the night before. It's really walking a thin line.
But I agree. Life shouldn't be about who can be the sleaziest without crossing the line.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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But I agree. Life shouldn't be about who can be the sleaziest without crossing the line.

N O W ya tell me?!

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[rhys 0]

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Well... if you look just below the picture you'll usually find the author's name, and that may be all you need to know.

And some authors have good and bad work, fiction and non ficton.

Things are not constant, if you set your ways to a constant, you will be left behind.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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I think he did, but I also think it is one of those situations where if a judge had to decide it would come down to whether the judge got laid the night before. It's really walking a thin line.

You 'think' or you 'know'? What is it that you base this assertion on?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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I don't think he broke the law. However, "not breaking the law" shouldn't be the definition of "OK."

Breaking the law is where it gets really bad -- life isn't a contest to see just how sleazy we can be without actually breaking the law.

Wendy P.

if i were sleazy i would not be where I am today, i would not have the mst beutiful wife in the world, there is none other like her i can garantee that.

I'm not perfect, I am always learning and making mistakes, I am sometimes a little cheeky but not a bad person. I consider what I did the same as the others calling me a fraud or a thief, that itself bad, it is false, an oxymoron and hypocritical.

But in their eyes they must be perfect, perfect must be so fucking boring!

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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that itself bad, it is false, an oxymoron and hypocritical.

It is none of the above.
1. Bad - Only according to you.
2. False - see above.
3. Oxymoron - don't know why you tried to use such a big word incorrectly. An oxymoron (from Greek "sharp dull") is a figure of speech that combines normally contradictory terms like Jumbo Shrimp.
4. Hypocritical - a hypocrite thinks that what he usually professes does not somehow apply to him. Everybody who has indicated you are deceitful has also indicated it is something they wouldn't do.

For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.

[Bolas 5]

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if i were sleazy i would not be where I am today, i would not have the mst beutiful wife in the world, there is none other like her i can garantee that.

While that is admirable you feel that way about your wife, the two statements have no correlation.

There are plenty of sleezy people that are very successful and/or find loving mates, just as there are plenty of stupid people too.
Here's proof:
http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[wmw999 2,444]

You gotta remember that someone who is sleazy in one arena isn't necessarily sleazy in all of them.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Bolas 5]

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You gotta remember that someone who is sleazy in one arena isn't necessarily sleazy in all of them.

Wendy P.

Or to all people. True as well.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[champu 1]

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Well... if you look just below the picture you'll usually find the author's name, and that may be all you need to know.

And some authors have good and bad work, fiction and non ficton.

Things are not constant, if you set your ways to a constant, you will be left behind.

"Things are not constant"

That's deep man.

I don't expect everyone to intently read everything I write here (or anywhere for that matter.) Posts get buried in the noise pretty regularly. But there are only a few people on these boards who have passed over something I've written and gone on to boast later in the thread how no one has anything useful to say. In one instance someone actually hit reply to my post, deleted my username from the "Re:" line, and made a post to that effect.

Life is too short to take affronts on the internet (or many places) seriously, to be sure, but life's also too short to take the few of you seriously at anything you write.

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I think he did, but I also think it is one of those situations where if a judge had to decide it would come down to whether the judge got laid the night before. It's really walking a thin line.

You 'think' or you 'know'? What is it that you base this assertion on?

Do you even fucking READ what people post?? If you did you would not have to ask that stupid ass question.
You claim to be successful and overachieve at everything. Excuse me, but the freakin' stupid shit you post here makes that very, VERY hard to believe.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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It is none of the above.
1. Bad - Only according to you.
2. False - see above.
3. Oxymoron - don't know why you tried to use such a big word incorrectly. An oxymoron (from Greek "sharp dull") is a figure of speech that combines normally contradictory terms like Jumbo Shrimp.
4. Hypocritical - a hypocrite thinks that what he usually professes does not somehow apply to him. Everybody who has indicated you are deceitful has also indicated it is something they wouldn't do.

1, If I call you a thief, and you are not, is that not bad? If I accuse you of doing somethng you did not do, would you consider that bad?

2, False see above.

3, If someone calles me a liar or wrong or imorral, and is being so by saying such, that is what i beleive to be the definition of an oxymoron.

4, hypocrite, see 90% of the above posts replying to mine.

wendy and tardo are the only rational ones can think of that have contributed to this conversation. there may be others but i cannot think of them at this time.

I'd like to thank each and every one of you for helping me to grow and be a better person, whether you are for or against my actions, you have given me a deeper understanding of what it is, that makes people react to certain things they way they do.

i am getting bored of this subject now and wish to move on to others.

Withj such a bunch of people that wish the best for those around them and thier local communities, i challenge you to debate the subject of iran and what threat it poses to the 'rest of us' in the 'Osama bin Ladin in Iran' thread.

I don't expect any of you to, but if you feel you are right and I am wrong with our philosiphies then you might want to explain that me me also.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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i am getting bored of this subject now and wish to move on to others.

I'm certain you would like a thread in which you expose your true intent to go away.

BTW, I never heard the term Seppo before you started tossing it around here.

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seppo

Slang for Americans - as septic tank rhymes with yank, but Americans are also full of shit like septic tanks

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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3, If someone calles me a liar or wrong or imorral, and is being so by saying such, that is what i beleive to be the definition of an oxymoron.

It's not. Closer to hypocrisy or irony.

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4, hypocrite, see 90% of the above posts replying to mine.

Are you saying they're all immoral thiefs too?

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wendy and tardo are the only rational ones can think of that have contributed to this conversation. there may be others but i cannot think of them at this time.

This beckons for a repeat reading of your #3. It isn't an oxymoron, but it is amusing to read.

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i am getting bored of this subject now and wish to move on to others.

Like your quarterly 9/11 thread? Talk about beating the horse.

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It's not. Closer to hypocrisy or irony.

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Word Origin & History

oxymoron
1657, from Gk. oxymoron, noun use of neut. of oxymoros (adj.) "pointedly foolish," from oxys "sharp" (see acrid) + moros "stupid." Rhetorical figure by which contradictory terms are conjoined so as to give point to the statement or expression; the word itself is an illustration of the thing. Now often used loosely to mean "contradiction in terms."

Take it how you will, hypocrite or contradictory will suffice.

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Are you saying they're all immoral thiefs too?

No I'm saying they are hypocrites.

They try to tell lies in order to justify thier beleifs/to belittle me. I just tell the truth and see what happens.

I don't claim to be right, I claim to be doing 'what feels right' to me.
Everyone had a fair chance to prove me wrong, but they cannot do that from accusations alone!

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This beckons for a repeat reading of your #3. It isn't an oxymoron, but it is amusing to read.

I'm not sure what you mean there you'll haver ot clarify.

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Like your quarterly 9/11 thread? Talk about beating the horse.

This is exactly the same, I bleive what i beleive is the most ratonal explanation, and there is scientific proof and evidence toback up my assertions.

The deniers say they debunk the presence of Nanothermite in the dust samples by simply saying it is not true, that the researchers are loonies, tin foil hatters, and frauds.

Yet once again, like in this conversation, there is no ratonal explanation for these assertions. There is tngable evidence to back it up the explosive dempolition hypothesis but if everybody refuses to look at it, then what use is it.

If ridicule and the removal of public acceptance are used as weapons against truth, as soon as you decide to take part in that ridicule, you very much become respnsable for the deaths of many thousands of people, you become respoinsable for the downfall of democracy and free speech in America and you become a murderer by association.

This is how I think, and much like you and your mates think I am a thief, by the same rationale you are a murderer.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

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This is how I think, and much like you and your mates think I am a thief, by the same rationale you are a murderer.

Other than the minor difference that you actually touched the items you "rented," and openly admitted to the fraud.