Famous Celebrities that have served in the Military...

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Joining the military is not signing up to kill.

If you're in the military then you're either doing the killing yourself or you are supporting in some manner those who do the killing.

And I understand that the military does humanitarian work and all the rest, but the primary purpose is to kill "enemies".

Everybody knows this. Why are you saying it as if it's going to be an epiphany to someone here? Did the thought occur to you one day and now you have this mission to let everybody know this new "dangerous" information? Or is it just another excuse to hate and feel general discontentment?

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Joining the military is not signing up to kill.

If you're in the military then you're either doing the killing yourself or you are supporting in some manner those who do the killing.

And I understand that the military does humanitarian work and all the rest, but the primary purpose is to kill "enemies".

...and if it weren't for those who have served this country, you would not have the freedom to say what you just did or any other freedoms you can think of.


Chuck

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Ronald Reagan.....well, sorta..... he had an EYE PROBLEM and didn't go to fight with the men, he sat home with the bitches and made military training movies.

GWB...... oh yea, he was able to play stateside and just walk away.

Well, at least you have come to accept the FACT that RR did have poor eyesight.

GWB served stateside. GHWB flew in the Pacific.

GHWB was the only ho0norable serviceman in a long time, I never brought that in. I'm sure he personally and privately disowns his drug addicted draft-dodging kid.

Yea, FR had poor eyesight, but it was good enough to enlist in the guard/reserve in 1937, wasn't an issue until the pussy was called to WWII to fight.

Oh and GWB played around with fighters stateside, he never even almost went to Nam.

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John Wayne.

Never served. Although he was a military supporter and supposedly regretted not having served.

Which translates to a Hollywood puss-hound who always talked of enlisting but couldn't pull away frrom the lavish lifestyle to do so = hypocrite. He was Clinton but under the guise of an all-American hero = joke.

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Eddie Rickenbacker
"Courage is doing what you are afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you are scared. "

and another..

My Daddy Yeah, he wasn't famous or a celebrity...but he was my hero! He taught me that it is not only ok to be scared, but also that any man who says he is never scared can't be trusted because he is either a lier, a fool, or both.

I'm assuming you didn't enlist.

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Post deleted, due to a low tolerance for bullshit.

Oh no, we've tolerated your BS for a long time; go ahead

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Wasn't Ted Williams in the air force or something like that - right in the middle of his baseball career, no less.

Yep. And Cleveland pitcher Robert William Andrew "Bob" Feller joined the Navy on December 8, 1941 and spent four prime years of his baseball career on the USS Alabama.

Yep, Tillman, of course. Maybe we should have a thread of all the celebrities who played the part, talked the BS, but showd that was all a giuse as tehy never enlisted.

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Joining the military is not signing up to kill.

If you're in the military then you're either doing the killing yourself or you are supporting in some manner those who do the killing.

And I understand that the military does humanitarian work and all the rest, but the primary purpose is to kill "enemies".

...and if it weren't for those who have served this country, you would not have the freedom to say what you just did or any other freedoms you can think of.


Chuck

Altho the last campaign that was about saving our asses was WWII, I totally agree.

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Ronald Reagan - Captain, US Army

George W. Bush - Jet pilot, National Guard

Jimmy Stewart - Army Air Corps and then Air National Guard - Brigadier General

George H. W. Bush - Navy Fighter Pilot (and skydiver)

Jack Palance - US Army - Had his face burned off in WWII - That's why his skin looked like leather

John McCain - Wild Weasel pilot in Vietnam - Retired Naval Captain (O6)

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GWB- NG Pilot
Clinton - Draft Dodger
GHWB - Navy pilot
Reagan - Army
Carter - Navy
Ford - Navy
Nixon - Navy (though he qualified for an exemption as a Quaker)
Lyndon Johnson - Navy Reserve and then requested combat duty in WWII although he was in Congress
JFK - PT Boat Commander WWII
Dwight D. Eisenhower - General of the Army
Harry S. Truman - Army Artillery WWI

If you want to go back to Teddy Roosevelt - Extreme badass Army

Go all the way back to George Washington and you will find he was known for leading from the front, returning with bullet holes in his clothes and no horse (poor beast having been shot out from under him). General Washington, however, rarely received a scratch.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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Ronald Reagan - Captain, US Army

George W. Bush - Jet pilot, National Guard

Jimmy Stewart - Army Air Corps and then Air National Guard - Brigadier General

George H. W. Bush - Navy Fighter Pilot (and skydiver)

Jack Palance - US Army - Had his face burned off in WWII - That's why his skin looked like leather

John McCain - Wild Weasel pilot in Vietnam - Retired Naval Captain (O6)

Working backward -


GWB- NG Pilot
Clinton - Draft Dodger
GHWB - Navy pilot
Reagan - Army
Carter - Navy
Ford - Navy
Nixon - Navy (though he qualified for an exemption as a Quaker)
Lyndon Johnson - Navy Reserve and then requested combat duty in WWII although he was in Congress
JFK - PT Boat Commander WWII
Dwight D. Eisenhower - General of the Army
Harry S. Truman - Army Artillery WWI

If you want to go back to Teddy Roosevelt - Extreme badass Army

Go all the way back to George Washington and you will find he was known for leading from the front, returning with bullet holes in his clothes and no horse (poor beast having been shot out from under him). General Washington, however, rarely received a scratch.

If you wanna consider FR making training movies in the Army during WWII, the most critical military time for about the last 100 years, then more power bro. And to consider GWB's service as vluable or even honorable is also a joke. He's the 1st pres to that has military service and didn'tmake his 214 public record automatically. Finally, when we got the record it was lined out. He deserted the military and you call Clinton a draft dodger but call out ole cokehead???? We get it.

If I think of really great military service and correlate that with presidents, I think of Eisenhower and GHWB. Of course if we got back a way we can find more, but just in the last 50 or so years, those 2 rock.

Reagan, GWB, Clinton rank as those w/o service or w/o honorable service. There were wars going on and they all ran.

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Peter Sellers - RAF Airman

Spike Miligan - Army - Royal Artillery (Hitler - my part in his downfall)

Harry Secomb - Army - Royal Artillery

Michael Bentine - RAF

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Eddie Rickenbacker
"Courage is doing what you are afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you are scared. "

and another..

My Daddy Yeah, he wasn't famous or a celebrity...but he was my hero! He taught me that it is not only ok to be scared, but also that any man who says he is never scared can't be trusted because he is either a lier, a fool, or both.

I'm assuming you didn't enlist.

No, I didn't. But it wasn't for lack of trying. The military tends to avoid people with chronic back problems.
What does that have to do with anything?

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Ronald Reagan.....well, sorta..... he had an EYE PROBLEM and didn't go to fight with the men, he sat home with the bitches and made military training movies.

GWB...... oh yea, he was able to play stateside and just walk away.

Well, at least you have come to accept the FACT that RR did have poor eyesight.

GWB served stateside. GHWB flew in the Pacific.

GHWB was the only ho0norable serviceman in a long time, I never brought that in. I'm sure he personally and privately disowns his drug addicted draft-dodging kid.

Yea, FR had poor eyesight, but it was good enough to enlist in the guard/reserve in 1937, wasn't an issue until the pussy was called to WWII to fight.

Oh and GWB played around with fighters stateside, he never even almost went to Nam.

I think you are dead wrong about GHW's opinion of his son. But we'll never know for certain, will we?
RR held down a desk. It doesn't take very good eyesight to do that.

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John Wayne.

Never served. Although he was a military supporter and supposedly regretted not having served.

So why do you mention him here?

John Wayne was a twat, he made no attempt to enlist, let his studio get him off the draft and then became a fervent supporter of HUNAC to make up for it.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Eddie Rickenbacker
"Courage is doing what you are afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you are scared. "

and another..

My Daddy Yeah, he wasn't famous or a celebrity...but he was my hero! He taught me that it is not only ok to be scared, but also that any man who says he is never scared can't be trusted because he is either a lier, a fool, or both.

I'm assuming you didn't enlist.

No, I didn't. But it wasn't for lack of trying. The military tends to avoid people with chronic back problems.
What does that have to do with anything?

If Reagan had an eye problem, youcan have your back problem. Why? Well because you are a world reknowned acft engineer celebrity, that's why.

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Ronald Reagan.....well, sorta..... he had an EYE PROBLEM and didn't go to fight with the men, he sat home with the bitches and made military training movies.

GWB...... oh yea, he was able to play stateside and just walk away.

Well, at least you have come to accept the FACT that RR did have poor eyesight.

GWB served stateside. GHWB flew in the Pacific.

GHWB was the only ho0norable serviceman in a long time, I never brought that in. I'm sure he personally and privately disowns his drug addicted draft-dodging kid.

Yea, FR had poor eyesight, but it was good enough to enlist in the guard/reserve in 1937, wasn't an issue until the pussy was called to WWII to fight.

Oh and GWB played around with fighters stateside, he never even almost went to Nam.

I think you are dead wrong about GHW's opinion of his son. But we'll never know for certain, will we?
RR held down a desk. It doesn't take very good eyesight to do that.

It's my opinion vs yours, but GHWBnever brags him up, so the silence is deafening - acquiescence.

No, doing a desk job or making movies requires little eyesight, but whne he was guard/reserve for 5 years before, gotta wonder how he slid past that. Quite obvious his eyesight was sufficent, when it came to going to war to perhaps die, the men go, the cowards flee. And this wasn't VN, this was where the greatest generation saved our asses. With all the proxy wars over ideological disputes, this one was actually over freedom and these were really tough guys stepping up. My dad's brother died in Germany in WWII, my dad served in Korea, well, in that period in N Africa. Reagan's a cunt, even if you like his failed politics and failed economic policies, he's a cunt.

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Wasn't Ted Williams in the air force or something like that - right in the middle of his baseball career, no less.

Twice. WW2 and Korea. Five years out of the middle of his career.

Charles Rangel and Duke Cunningham - The symmetry is palpable.
Harry Belafonte - USN
Charles Bronson - B29 Gunner
Kris Kristofferson - US Army (Ranger, Aviator)
Caesar Romero - USCG
Jesse Ventura - USN SEAL
Alex Hailey - USCG
Edgar A. Poe - West Point: Failed out.
James Whistler (Of Whistler's Mother fame) - West Point: Failed out ("If silicon had been a gas, I would have been a General.").

Membership in the National Guard is an honorable form of military service. To imply it is not, at any level, denigrates thousands of members serving today.

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Membership in the National Guard is an honorable form of military service. To imply it is not, at any level, denigrates thousands of members serving today.

Agreed. That being said, it is also a fact that during the Vietnam War many joined the National Guard to avoid getting shipped out to the rice paddies. Not just GW Bush, but also Dan Quayle, for example. There was a hell of a waiting list, and lots of "fortunate sons"* got in the Guard. Those who think that that was any less a form of draft dodging are being naive.

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

(Lyrics only): http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/john+fogerty/fortunate+son_20200607.html

OK, here's a name: John Kerry - Swiftboaters' slander notwithstanding.

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The Chickenhawk database: who did and did not serve?

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

http://www.bartcop.com/chickenhawks.htm


Recipients of draft deferments during Vietnam. Lots of republicans and conservatives on this list.:

http://www.nndb.com/event/806/000140386/

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I believe Axl Rose was also 101st

I looked it up, I am not finding anything out on it. He ran away from home and started hitchhiking. Nothing is said about joining the military.

Yeah I think your right. Must have been the tattoo on his arm that threw me when I was younger

Thought this was interesting though:

Maynard James Keenan (Singer for Tool) went to West Point.

Keenan never received an appointment to go to West Point. He was enlisted and studied at a West Point prep-school.

Ed Asner was in the U.S. Army Signal Corps in the early 50s.

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Membership in the National Guard is an honorable form of military service. To imply it is not, at any level, denigrates thousands of members serving today.

I don't think the Kent State killers were very honorable.

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Random thoughts:

Famous celebrities - is that redundant?

I noticed half the people mentioned in this thread are not what I would consider celebrities, but politicians.

Are politicians more celebrities than politicians?

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[There was a hell of a waiting list, and lots of "fortunate sons"* got in the Guard. Those who think that that was any less a form of draft dodging are being naive.

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

(Lyrics only): http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/john+fogerty/fortunate+son_20200607.html

Of course, Fogerty himself served. I believe he got out as a First Lieutenant. He was drafted in 1966, but was fortunate enough to get himself a Reservist slot just before that draft and didn't send him to Nam.

And - Fortunate Son was, I believe, written about David Eisenhower, who was an officer in the Navy.

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And I don't think he's shown up, but Jimi Hendrix was in the 101st. Just barely. He was outprocessed and didn't last long.

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Fortunate Son was, I believe, written about David Eisenhower, who was an officer in the Navy.

Naval Reserve, after graduating from college in 1969, during which he had a military deferment. He didn't enter law school until around 1972; so if he'd been an ordinary schlub, he'd have been subject to the draft, depending on his lottery number. Reserve slots, like N.G. slots, went disproportionately to the Fortunate Sons.