Rand Paul

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Whaddaya think?

I've not read much of anything about him until his recent news splash.

No opinions yet.

Anyone?

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Rob

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Whaddaya think?

I've not read much of anything about him until his recent news splash.

No opinions yet.

Anyone?

I think he fits the people who are his biggest supporters to a TEA.

Gotta keep them colored folk from minglin in polite private businesses



Rand Paul


Rand Paul takes outdated stance on segregation
The Tea Partier thinks private businesses should be exempt from the Civil Rights Act; the same argument as in 1891

When pushed by Maddow to explain comments he had made to The Louisville Courier-Journal, Paul argued that the parts of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that require private businesses serving the general public to serve all customers without regards to their race, gender, religion, or national origin need further "discussion." He insisted that he agreed with the parts of the act that required publicly owned facilities like public transportation to serve everyone regardless of race, but that private businesses should have been exempt. He asserted that the government shouldn’t "want to harbor in on private businesses and their policies" and that by forcing businesses to integrate the Civil Rights Act was deciding "that restaurants are publicly owned rather than privately owned." According to Paul, the historic battle to be served at lunch counters at Woolworths or Kress stores, or use the public restrooms or water fountains in those stores was, in fact, an intrusion. For Paul, the desegregation of these businesses was a kind of "government takeover" that infringed on the First Amendment rights of segregationist business owners to say "abhorrent things."

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If this is any indication Mr. Paul will lose in November, he is too out there for Kentucky voters (who are overwhelmingly Democrats, but normally vote Republican in national races). By electing him in the primary over the right/center Trey Grayson Republicans gave up a seat they have held for years.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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Whaddaya think?

I've not read much of anything about him until his recent news splash.

No opinions yet.

Anyone?

Put his foot in his mouth big time over civil rights. He's a lightweight.

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He's in the wrong forum. Social ethics aside, the cold logic of his point is not irrational. His point, if well-drafted, might make an for an interesting philosophy essay or law review article. But for a political campaign? Not a good way to sell the soap flakes.

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while I understand his point, and think that today there is less need for the government stepping in and determining the choices that private business can make with regards to their customers, at the time there was a need for such legislation.

I've always thought his old man was pretty right on about a bunch of things, but also thought he was to far "out there" to get elected to a higher office. It appears the apple did not fall far from the tree.

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I'll give him this much, he doesn't pull his punches.



http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100521/NEWS0108/305210019/Paul++BP+criticism+seems++un-American+

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"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

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I'll give him this much, he doesn't pull his punches.



http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100521/NEWS0108/305210019/Paul++BP+criticism+seems++un-American+

I can't make it clicky........geez........

True. One of the problems with that is while he's busy jabbing with his left he's probably left himself open to a Democratic uppercut. They'll have a field day with this. Might go down as the shortest political career on record.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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here you go

This probably isn't the year to go down on record as defending BP; between their overall safety record (not great), the initial blame game, their "estimate" of the flow (laughably low), and now their statement that "hey, we didn't estimate that -- it was the Coast Guard's fault!" they sound like the corporate version of a twatmuppet.

I agree with the statement about intellectual exercises belonging in law review articles and editorials. We need them. But probably not on the campaign trail.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Paul, 47 and an eye surgeon,

Aha; I knew it. You can't trust their kind.

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here you go

Wow. He looked pretty lousy in the Stephanopoulos interview. The "accidents happen" viewpoint isn't going to go over very well and I'm surprised that George didn't take him to task over the mining accident when it is clear that there were well known ventilation issues that were ignored. As for the BP comment, Paul has a point, it IS un-American for us to play hard ball with oil companies, at least based on history. We usually subsidize them, let them write legislation, send them a few regulators for some taxpayer funded sex, fail to collect the royalty payments that they owe, and give them about $100B/year in usage of our military resources.

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True. One of the problems with that is while he's busy jabbing with his left he's probably left himself open to a Democratic uppercut. They'll have a field day with this. Might go down as the shortest political career on record.

I couldn't agree more, like I said in my original post he won't play well to Kentucky voters who are mainly center/moderate democrats.
I like the candor but, I don't think it bodes well in a national election race.

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True. One of the problems with that is while he's busy jabbing with his left he's probably left himself open to a Democratic uppercut. They'll have a field day with this. Might go down as the shortest political career on record.

I couldn't agree more, like I said in my original post he won't play well to Kentucky voters who are mainly center/moderate democrats.
I like the candor but, I don't think it bodes well in a national election race.

His latest remarks about the recent mine disaster suggest he's a complete idiot.

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His latest remarks about the recent mine disaster suggest he's a complete idiot.

"We had a mining accident that was very tragic," Paul said. "Then we come in and it's always someone's fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen."

sounds inexperienced to me. not total idiocy. A more experienced politician would have followed that up with something about safety measures.

Maybe he should have started out as a community planner first.

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His latest remarks about the recent mine disaster suggest he's a complete idiot.

"We had a mining accident that was very tragic," Paul said. "Then we come in and it's always someone's fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen."

sounds inexperienced to me. .

Sounds like he didn't bother to investigate the company's dismal safety record before sticking his foot in his mouth to me.

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His latest remarks about the recent mine disaster suggest he's a complete idiot.

"We had a mining accident that was very tragic," Paul said. "Then we come in and it's always someone's fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen."

sounds inexperienced to me. .

Sounds like he didn't bother to investigate the company's dismal safety record before sticking his foot in his mouth to me.

well that's one way to say inexperienced. but if you're going to be like that ok.

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His latest remarks about the recent mine disaster suggest he's a complete idiot.

"We had a mining accident that was very tragic," Paul said. "Then we come in and it's always someone's fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen."

sounds inexperienced to me. not total idiocy. A more experienced politician would have followed that up with something about safety measures.

Maybe he should have started out as a community planner first.

Except the point of his statement is that he thinks the company shouldn't be held culpable and that the mining operation (and BP, and any other business/corporation you can think of) is regulated too much. He literally saw a case where a company failing to follow regulations led to the deaths of miners and thought "That company needs the government interfering in their business less." I agree with Kallend. That crosses well over into idiocy.

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It's really pretty simple - people who vote for him in the general election will be proving the adage, "In a democracy, people get the government they deserve."

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It's really pretty simple - people who vote for him in the general election will be proving the adage, "In a democracy, people get the government they deserve."

The same thing applies to Nancy Pelosi, except that Nancy Pelosi does a whole lot more damage to the nation than this Rand Paul fellow could ever dream of doing.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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The same thing applies to Nancy Pelosi, except that Nancy Pelosi does a whole lot more damage to the nation than this Rand Paul fellow could ever dream of doing.

What do you, a Canadian, see as damage that Pelosi is responsible for?
In your own words, please. In other words, no verbal vomit of right wing talking points...

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ROFLMAO ... there is no point debating you if you think Nancy Pelosi is a good politician. As far as I am concerned that psycho is a 100% certifiable and should be wearing a straight jacket.

BTW ... maybe you are not aware of this, but not all Canadians are Leftists and Marxists, though approximately 66% of the country does believe in the hardcore Leftist / Marxist mantra that big government should manage every aspect of your life. Some of us do believe in personal responsibility and believe that hard work pays dividends in a free market society. But we are in the minority. Most of the country feels that the government owes them their free ride in the nanny state from the cradle to the grave.

Ah yes Greece is a fine example we should all be following isn't it? NOT!!!

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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It's really pretty simple - people who vote for him in the general election will be proving the adage, "In a democracy, people get the government they deserve."

The same thing applies to Nancy Pelosi, except that Nancy Pelosi does a whole lot more damage to the nation than this Rand Paul fellow could ever dream of doing.

Doesn't speak to my point. Meaningless sloganistic talking point. Yes, we know: Pelosi bad. Whatever.

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Yes, we know: Pelosi bad. Whatever.

If you know Pelosi is bad, then you should keep the "people get the government they deserve" slogan to a minimum. Because as I pointed out, Pelosi is no different than this Rand Paul character you are out to slam. I don't know much about Rand Paul, but whenever Pelosi speaks I want to gag her and put a sack over her head. Heck fit her with some nice cement galoshes for all I care (of course that would not be very politically correct of me now would it).

You know they all (politicians) suck ass.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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Because as I pointed out, Pelosi is no different than this Rand Paul character you are out to slam. I don't know much about Rand Paul

Cognitive dissonance.

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It's really pretty simple - people who vote for him in the general election will be proving the adage, "In a democracy, people get the government they deserve."

It is pretty simple, that speaks to the current POTUS.

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"