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QuoteQuoteKaffee: W, did you order the waterboarding?!
Judge: You don't have to answer that question--
George: I'll answer the question. You want answers?
Kaffee: I think I'm entitled.
George: You want answers?!
Kaffee: I want the truth!
George: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with water. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom! You weep for Mohammed and you curse the US. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Mohammed's waterboarding, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives! You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that spigot! You need me on that spigot! We use words like "gurgle", "cough", "choke". We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline! I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "Thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a hose, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
Kaffee: Did you order the waterboarding?
George: I did the job that—-
Kaffee: Did you order the waterboarding?!
George: You're goddamn right I did!!
And those are the words of a True Man. Damn I wish we had more like em. Give me a HOSE, I'll make dem terrist bastards talk.
"OB, get the hell out of the way, your doing it all wrong. Get, now...and take that damn teleprompter with ya. Hey don't walk off with the hose...WHAT? your going home and taking the beer with ya." "Well then go on home, no body likes playing with ya any way."
Oh, so you like war crimes? Hey, it was pretty cool when, after Hiro Hito surrendered that many US servicemen in Japanese prisons were murdered, huh? Damn right, wish they had more Japanese solders doing it, right? See, when one side acts like assholes, the other side(s) do too. Rules are rules, if you have to ask if it's torture, it obviously is.
rhaig 0
Quoteif you have to ask if it's torture, it obviously is.
Is it torture to shoot the enemy with a round that is small enough to not kill them, but will require at least 2 more soldiers to care for them?
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Rob
Rob
QuoteQuote"Yeah, we waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed," Bush told a Grand Rapids audience Wednesday, of the self-professed 9/11 mastermind. "I'd do it again to save lives."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/bushs-glib-waterboarding_n_599893.html
Seems an odd thing to admit to, considering the gravity of the statement
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fair enough I say
QuoteQuote"Yeah, we waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed," Bush told a Grand Rapids audience Wednesday, of the self-professed 9/11 mastermind. "I'd do it again to save lives."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/bushs-glib-waterboarding_n_599893.html
Seems an odd thing to admit to, considering the gravity of the statement
This is funny. That's what this is.
The CIA has been waterboarding, and much worse, for years now. During the height of the cold war they did things that make waterboarding look like tiddly winks. It spans many administrations. None are lilly white. The Bush haters who just want to pin this to GW are a bunch of fucking morons.
The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer.
Channman 2
Your right, couldn't get the bastard to talk, had to put a cap in em...right through his gizzard
He going to tell me something for sure now, soon has he stops his yelling
DaVinci 0
QuoteDo you think that will be what the Chinese will do??
Being that they were willing to kill female children just for being female.... I am willing to bet they will do whatever they want to do.
Quote***"Yeah, we waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed," Bush told a Grand Rapids audience Wednesday, of the self-professed 9/11 mastermind. "I'd do it again to save lives."
It takes a real man to make that statement... one that's not just out for himself and worried about his "image".
This thread is going to be worthless and full of crap. There will be no sensible arguments over his character, as too many can't see past their personal hate for him.
*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.*
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tr027 0
QuoteSee, when one side acts like assholes, the other side(s) do too.
reminds me of this:
Anonymity sabotaging online discussions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1vD5EHeAFM&playnext_from=TL&videos=VbXN5kcUmWs&feature=sub
"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957
...lame. Gimme the bag and the bucket of water! I'll do it and be proud of it. But flying two jumbo jets into buildings and empty Pennsylvania fields is ok? Dumbass.
riddler 0
QuoteThe Bush haters who just want to pin this to GW are a bunch of fucking morons.
You have evidence of what the CIA has been doing during the cold-war years? Or is that just speculation?
OTOH, Bush freely admitted what was done under his administration. And it is definitely against international convention.
Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
Which war was that? The Gulf War? The Vietnam War? The Korean War? The Cold War? We won those wars by NOT fighting them to the bitter end.
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