futuredivot 0 #1 June 16, 2010 Evidently had a kick ass storm last night at home. Wind hail maybe a small tornado or two. Debris and damage all over the place. So, I've had to cut my trip short and go bond with the chainsaw to clean up. Plan-Get to work on my property opening access and dropping the damaged trees that may cause problems. Go help my neighbors do the same-Then go to my parents and do clean-up. Then I get to start clean-up at my place. It's be a hell of a lot easier to sit on my ass and wait for the government to send someone.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #2 June 16, 2010 You can't even hire some illegals to help you. Yeah, sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #3 June 16, 2010 QuoteEvidently had a kick ass storm last night at home. Wind hail maybe a small tornado or two. Debris and damage all over the place. So, I've had to cut my trip short and go bond with the chainsaw to clean up. Plan-Get to work on my property opening access and dropping the damaged trees that may cause problems. Go help my neighbors do the same-Then go to my parents and do clean-up. Then I get to start clean-up at my place. It's be a hell of a lot easier to sit on my ass and wait for the government to send someone. Why hasn't Obama made a visit?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #4 June 16, 2010 QuoteEvidently had a kick ass storm last night at home. Wind hail maybe a small tornado or two. Debris and damage all over the place. So, I've had to cut my trip short and go bond with the chainsaw to clean up. Plan-Get to work on my property opening access and dropping the damaged trees that may cause problems. Go help my neighbors do the same-Then go to my parents and do clean-up. Then I get to start clean-up at my place. It's be a hell of a lot easier to sit on my ass and wait for the government to send someone. All that to do and you still have enough time to come on here and tell everyone how great you are. Congrats!Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #5 June 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteEvidently had a kick ass storm last night at home. Wind hail maybe a small tornado or two. Debris and damage all over the place. So, I've had to cut my trip short and go bond with the chainsaw to clean up. Plan-Get to work on my property opening access and dropping the damaged trees that may cause problems. Go help my neighbors do the same-Then go to my parents and do clean-up. Then I get to start clean-up at my place. It's be a hell of a lot easier to sit on my ass and wait for the government to send someone. All that to do and you still have enough time to come on here and tell everyone how great you are. Congrats! Holy - Missing the Point, Batman. THAT was impressive.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #6 June 16, 2010 Quote Holy - Missing the Point, Batman. THAT was impressive. I didn't miss anything. Conservatives are great he is even greater, liberals are useless wasters of oxygen that never do anything except take handouts...that about right?Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #7 June 16, 2010 Quote Quote Holy - Missing the Point, Batman. THAT was impressive. I didn't miss anything. Conservatives are great he is even greater, liberals are useless wasters of oxygen that never do anything except take handouts...that about right? Nope - still missing it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 June 16, 2010 QuoteQuote Holy - Missing the Point, Batman. THAT was impressive. I didn't miss anything. Conservatives are great he is even greater, liberals are useless wasters of oxygen that never do anything except take handouts...that about right? Only in the minds of the terminally brain damaged Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #9 June 16, 2010 Fiscally conservative sucks too. Instead of driving a brand new big RV or sports car from my huge house at the beach to a DZ and jumping all new gear. I either drive my old '96 RV van or my '97 car (both with over 100K) from my modest house in BFE NC and jump either the 7 year old rig or the 16 year old one. All so I can save $$$ for retirement as well as not be in debt.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiverMike 5 #10 June 16, 2010 QuoteI didn't miss anything. Conservatives are great he is even greater, liberals are useless wasters of oxygen that never do anything except take handouts...that about right? Is agreeing with that considered a personal attack? For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 June 16, 2010 Quote Only in the minds of the terminally brain damaged But enough about Liberals. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #12 June 16, 2010 Quote Evidently had a kick ass storm last night at home. Wind hail maybe a small tornado or two. Debris and damage all over the place. So, I've had to cut my trip short and go bond with the chainsaw to clean up. Plan-Get to work on my property opening access and dropping the damaged trees that may cause problems. Go help my neighbors do the same-Then go to my parents and do clean-up. Then I get to start clean-up at my place. It's be a hell of a lot easier to sit on my ass and wait for the government to send someone. Well DO be careful with that chainsaw. Hate to see you pull an "Amazon". "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #13 June 16, 2010 Quote Quote I didn't miss anything. Conservatives are great he is even greater, liberals are useless wasters of oxygen that never do anything except take handouts...that about right? Is agreeing with that considered a personal attack? If so we are both Guilty! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #14 June 17, 2010 QuoteFiscally conservative sucks too. Instead of driving a brand new big RV or sports car from my huge house at the beach to a DZ and jumping all new gear. I either drive my old '96 RV van or my '97 car (both with over 100K) from my modest house in BFE NC and jump either the 7 year old rig or the 16 year old one. All so I can save $$$ for retirement as well as not be in debt. Maybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Those pesky government regulators at the SEC really did their jobs as true conservatives would DREAM of, right? They made the appearance of regulating, while actually doing nothing at all. We all know that businesses will always act in the best interests of the citizens, so minimal to no government regulation and oversight is needed, right? The ShrubCo MMS is another great example of the predictable outcome of conservative ideals. Minimal to no government regulation and NO enforcement of what little regulations existed. Total cooperation with the industry that is supposed to be tightly regulated. That has worked out to be totally bitchin, hasn't it? You stupid fucks STILL don't get it, do you? You swallow the bullshit from the corporate media, hook, line, and sinker. The practical outcome of the policies you support is totally predictable and obvious. Why are people so gullible so as to support that which is clearly NOT in their best interests? It is bizarre... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 June 17, 2010 QuoteMaybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Like Social Security, you mean? QuoteThose pesky government regulators at the SEC really did their jobs as true conservatives would DREAM of, right? They made the appearance of regulating, while actually doing nothing at all. Seems we've seen a lot of that over the last year and a half, huh? QuoteThe ShrubCo Obama MMS is another great example of the predictable outcome of conservative ideals. Minimal to no government regulation and NO enforcement of what little regulations existed. Total cooperation with the industry that is supposed to be tightly regulated. That has worked out to be totally bitchin, hasn't it? Sorry, it's Obama's MMS, now. QuoteYou stupid fucks STILL don't get it, do you? Quite evidently more than YOU do. QuoteYou swallow the bullshit from the corporate media, hook, line, and sinker. The practical outcome of the policies you support is totally predictable and obvious. Why are people so gullible so as to support that which is clearly NOT in their best interests? It is bizarre... Change "corporate" to 'government" and we have....you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #16 June 17, 2010 Quote Quote Fiscally conservative sucks too. Instead of driving a brand new big RV or sports car from my huge house at the beach to a DZ and jumping all new gear. I either drive my old '96 RV van or my '97 car (both with over 100K) from my modest house in BFE NC and jump either the 7 year old rig or the 16 year old one. All so I can save $$$ for retirement as well as not be in debt. Maybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Those pesky government regulators at the SEC really did their jobs as true conservatives would DREAM of, right? They made the appearance of regulating, while actually doing nothing at all. We all know that businesses will always act in the best interests of the citizens, so minimal to no government regulation and oversight is needed, right? The ShrubCo MMS is another great example of the predictable outcome of conservative ideals. Minimal to no government regulation and NO enforcement of what little regulations existed. Total cooperation with the industry that is supposed to be tightly regulated. That has worked out to be totally bitchin, hasn't it? You stupid fucks STILL don't get it, do you? You swallow the bullshit from the corporate media, hook, line, and sinker. The practical outcome of the policies you support is totally predictable and obvious. Why are people so gullible so as to support that which is clearly NOT in their best interests? It is bizarre... Not to mention most of the debt was incurred under Republican presidents who inherited stable scenarios and left total disaters. Yet the fiscal righties are teh brilliant ones who are beneficial for this country? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #17 June 17, 2010 Quote Quote Maybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Like Social Security, you mean? Quote Actually I am VERY thankful that the " Texican wot was in Charge" did not get his grubby greedy mits on Social Security like he wanted so he could turn it over to his rich buddies on Wall Street..You know..... His buddies that he was strokin off under the table would have stolen that too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #18 June 17, 2010 Minimal regulation is needed, but it needs to be enforced consistently and not be a conflict of interest. What we had in both cases you mentioned was appearance of regulation, some cases of over overregulation, and some of just downright fraud. Anytime you have someone telling someone not to do something but not enforcing it or if caught there are no real consequences you're going to have people not only disobeying but others getting a false sense of security.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 June 17, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Maybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Like Social Security, you mean? Quote Actually I am VERY thankful that the " Texican wot was in Charge" did not get his grubby greedy mits on Social Security like he wanted so he could turn it over to his rich buddies on Wall Street..You know..... His buddies that he was strokin off under the table would have stolen that too Evidently your near-terminal case of BDS prevents you from remembering that the proposed plan was to let the INDIVIDUALS invest part of their withholding. IOW - fail. But, while we're speaking of getting 'grubby greedy mitts on Social Security', perhaps you can tell me who was in charge of Congress in 1993, when the taxable percentage of Social Security was increased?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 June 17, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Maybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Like Social Security, you mean? Quote Actually I am VERY thankful that the " Texican wot was in Charge" did not get his grubby greedy mits on Social Security like he wanted so he could turn it over to his rich buddies on Wall Street..You know..... His buddies that he was strokin off under the table would have stolen that too Evidently your near-terminal case of BDS prevents you from remembering that the proposed plan was to let the INDIVIDUALS invest part of their withholding. IOW - fail. But, while we're speaking of getting 'grubby greedy mitts on Social Security', perhaps you can tell me who was in charge of Congress in 1993, when the taxable percentage of Social Security was increased? TskTsk Tsk.... You seem to forget that the Shrub was just following the great VOODOODOO Economics of St Ronald( not that the Shrub ever came up with much on his own.. hence his stellar performance in business and the state of the economy he left the country in)I do Believe it was actually St Ronald who started the real raid on our retirement funds Quote Wanted to privatize retirement, but never had opportunity Social Security was always more tar baby than Teflon for Reagan. He told me when he was governor of California that Barry Goldwater’s campaign had demonstrated that Republicans could not safely discuss the issue, but Reagan could not stop talking about it. I have no doubt that he shared the view that Social Security was a Ponzi scheme. He was intrigued with the idea of a voluntary plan that would have allowed workers to make their own investments. This idea would have undermined the system by depriving Social Security of the contributions of millions of the nation’s highest-paid workers. In 1976 he said that Social Security “could have made a provision for those who could do better on their own” and suggested that such recipients be allowed to leave the program upon showing that “they had made provisions for their non-earning years.” This declaration sent shudders through the ranks of Reagan’s political advisers, who knew his true feelings about Social Security.“ Source: The Role of a Lifetime, by Lou Cannon, p. 243 Jul 2, 1991 Suggested in 1975 to make social security voluntary In 1975, Reagan suggested ways to make social security voluntary. The demography of Florida made that as dangerous a position as Reagan could adopt on domestic matters. [Based on that issue], Ford beat Reagan [in the Florida primary in 1976] with 53% of the general vote, but with a crushing 60% of voters over sixty-five. Source: Reagan’s America, by Garry Wills, p. 329 Jul 2, 1987 Failed at restructuring system to avoid bankruptcy Reagan’s speech before Congress-a call for 100% support of his Program for Economic Recovery-was interrupted by 14 bursts of applause and three standing ovations. 63 Democrats subsequently joined the solid Republican minority. Speaker Tip O’Neill [concluded] “the will of the people is to go along with the President.” [After its passage], the Administration, overconfident, tried to restructure Social Security-which was clearly spending itself into bankruptcy-and discovered within days that “the will of the people“ did not extend so far as to mandate cutting the benefits of retirees. Keynesian economic theory, codified by the social engineers of the 60s and 70s, called for high, progressive tax rates, manipulative government spending, and welfare-state ”entitlements“ centering around Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid. Reaganomics questioned the wisdom of all these tenets, with the exception of Social Security, by now clearly too much of an article of American faith even to be debated. http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Ronald_Reagan_Social_Security.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 June 17, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Maybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Like Social Security, you mean? Quote Actually I am VERY thankful that the " Texican wot was in Charge" did not get his grubby greedy mits on Social Security like he wanted so he could turn it over to his rich buddies on Wall Street..You know..... His buddies that he was strokin off under the table would have stolen that too Evidently your near-terminal case of BDS prevents you from remembering that the proposed plan was to let the INDIVIDUALS invest part of their withholding. IOW - fail. But, while we're speaking of getting 'grubby greedy mitts on Social Security', perhaps you can tell me who was in charge of Congress in 1993, when the taxable percentage of Social Security was increased? Hmm There is an admin wanting to move all IRA's to the SS. I wonder who that is?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 June 17, 2010 Quote But, while we're speaking of getting 'grubby greedy mitts on Social Security', perhaps you can tell me who was in charge of Congress in 1993, when the taxable percentage of Social Security was increased? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #23 June 17, 2010 QuoteQuote Holy - Missing the Point, Batman. THAT was impressive. I didn't miss anything. Conservatives are great he is even greater, liberals are useless wasters of oxygen that never do anything except take handouts...that about right? Here is a hint . . . it has MOSTLY to do with Self-Reliance. See if you can figure out the rest of it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #24 June 17, 2010 >Here is a hint . . . it has MOSTLY to do with Self-Reliance. Except for energy - they want that to be provided to them at a low, low price, with government subsidies going to their favorite type. And roads; they want government roads. And wars, and police. And fire departments. And veteran's hospitals. (socialism! gasp) Every party wants their own government 'stuff.' Which is why we have a 13 trillion dollar deficit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #25 June 17, 2010 Quote>Here is a hint . . . it has MOSTLY to do with Self-Reliance. Except for energy - they want that to be provided to them at a low, low price, with government subsidies going to their favorite type. And roads; they want government roads. And wars, and police. And fire departments. And veteran's hospitals. (socialism! gasp) Every party wants their own government 'stuff.' Which is why we have a 13 trillion dollar deficit. I think, once again, you missed the point in your emotion driven post. Do you really need it explained to you as well?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
