Andy9o8 2 #26 June 18, 2010 Predictably, when it was reported by Fox"News", Fox edited-out the most outrageous part of Barton's groveling: the "apology" to BP. What a surprise. See for yourselves: http://www.examiner.com/x-21777-Las-Vegas-Democrat-Examiner~y2010m6d17-Rep-Barton-apologizes-to-BP-Fox-News-edits-Apology-Video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #27 June 18, 2010 Quote In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. http://blogs.forbes.com/beltway/2010/06/15/where-big-oil-puts-its-money-on-capitol-hill/ "In addition, those running for office (almost all of the lawmakers listed above are up for re-election) tend to look to profitable industries when raising campaign cash. That's why it's not too surprising that the biggest recipient of contributions from BP during the 2008 election cycle was an Illinois senator named Barack Obama, who took in $71,000 from political action committees and individuals connected to the company. The second biggest recipient? Obama's Republican challenger for the White House, Arizona Sen. John McCain, with nearly $37,000 in contributions tied to BP."You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #28 June 18, 2010 i've heard the apology on fow news on more than one occasion yesterday. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #29 June 18, 2010 Quotei've heard the apology on fow news on more than one occasion yesterday. Which means that once their splice-job was outed publicly, they "fixed" it. Presto change-o! Doesn't change that they did it and tried to get away with it. I'm sure that they'll try to pretend it didn't happen; but if really pressed, they'll just claim they were just editing for space. But with Fox's existing history of deliberate distortions, they simply have no credibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #30 June 18, 2010 Quote Legislative branch: writes laws Executive branch: approves laws Judicial branch: enforces laws I thought it was more like this: Legislative branch: writes laws Executive branch: enforces laws Judicial branch: makes sure laws are not in conflict ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #31 June 18, 2010 QuoteQuote Legislative branch: writes laws Executive branch: approves laws Judicial branch: enforces laws I thought it was more like this: Legislative branch: writes laws Executive branch: enforces laws Judicial branch: makes sure laws are not in conflict Nope. Legislative branch: raises money to stay in office Executive branch: raises money to stay in office Judicial branch: does all the real work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 June 18, 2010 It's so true - but I don't know if it makes me laugh or cry Legislative branch: raises money to stay in office Executive branch: raises money to stay in office Judicial branch: ignores the law and does whatever their guts and unreasonable political bias tells them to do My favorite is still when congress members are grilling judicial candidates and say things like "Mr. ___, as a judge, you'll be responsible for writing law - how would you ............?" seriously? don't the legislators even know their own job descriptions? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #33 June 18, 2010 Even Republican leadership attacked Rep. Barton for his comments, and demanded that he apologize. The only defenders he has left are the right-wingers on this forum. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37759828/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/ It's pretty clear to any reasonable person, Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, that BP fucked up badly, and ought to pay to clean up their mess. At least, it ought to be clear. Edit: well, if I'd have taken the time to read the whole article I linked, I'd have found out that a handful of Republicans still support what Barton said. My bad. So I stand corrected -- he does have supporters outside this forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #34 June 18, 2010 QuoteFrom Rep. Joe Barton this morning: In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. Not quite true. The oil and gas industry is not BP. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37759828/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/ QuoteIts data showed that Barton has collected $1,447,880 from political action committees and individuals connected with the oil and gas industry since 1989. Federal Election Commission records show that during the current 2009-10 campaign cycle, the oil and gas industry has been the second-biggest contributor to Barton, at $100,470, behind only the electric utility industry ($162,800). BP, however, has not been especially generous. FEC records show that the company isn't even among his 100 top contributors — in fact, since 1990, it has given Barton an average of only $1,350 a year. Public Campaign, which calls itself a nonpartisan advocate for reducing campaign costs, said its analysis shows that he has received $27,000 in contributions from BP since taking office in 1985. But..... http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64420A20100505 QuoteDuring his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 June 18, 2010 Quote Even Republican leadership attacked Rep. Barton for his comments, and demanded that he apologize. The only defenders he has left are the right-wingers on this forum. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37759828/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/ It's pretty clear to any reasonable person, Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, that BP fucked up badly, and ought to pay to clean up their mess. At least, it ought to be clear. Edit: well, if I'd have taken the time to read the whole article I linked, I'd have found out that a handful of Republicans still support what Barton said. My bad. So I stand corrected -- he does have supporters outside this forum. Many have assumed here that my supporting Barton indicates that I must some how think bp should be not held responsible for the mess. That is NOT the case. But, that said, what Obama and congress have done is pure bull shit and Barton had the guts to say as much. Kudos to him. The rest of his party (those not backing him) are a bunch of limp spined politions"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #36 June 18, 2010 QuoteFrom Rep. Joe Barton this morning: "I’m ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday. I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown — in this case a $20 billion shakedown." In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. Coming next - Sarah Palin apologizes to Exxon for putting that reef in the way of their tanker, and John McCain apologizes to Mexico for the disturbing lack of trolley service across the Arizona/Mexico border. While we don't know how the discussions off camera have been, the rhetoric out of President Obama since he decided to get involved a couple weeks ago has done nothing to help. BPs value has shrunk by 50%. 1 in 7 investing Americans and 1 in 6 investing British have a connection to BP. Pension plans that require their holdings to offer a dividend may have to offload BP further. Meanwhile, the children in the administration are demanding billions that BP no longer has because their market cap is half of what it used to be, and on the coattails of what BP has already publicly stated it would do time and again in addition to full mitigation of the affected area. These people have no f**k**g clue. You can't get any restitution out of a company if you drive it out of business. You partner up with them up front, contain, and inspire investor confidence and save the money talk for behind the scenes to be released via select press release and/or press conference later. Since our Republican leadership is too much of a pansy to see that fact (given the reaction by Rep. Boehner and Cantor), I will apologize to BP, and all of Britain for that matter for the treatment that our President has given your company, and in fact, all of you by proxy since BP is such a significant part of your economy. I am sorry that our leadership fails to recognize the repeated statements by BPs leadership committing to clean up and restitution to all the affected businesses and communities along the Gulf. Despite that apology, let it in no way allow you to think that the eyes of the world are upon you and that you must perform in your duty to contain, cap, and clean-up this mess. Edit to add: I would also like to apologize on behalf of my fellow Americans who are boycotting BP gas stations thinking that it hurts BP, when all it is hurting are small business, and local franchise owners, and BP can sell its refined products through other channels and not be affected by such uneducated action.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #37 June 18, 2010 QuoteWhile we don't know how the discussions off camera have been, the rhetoric out of President Obama since he decided to get involved a couple weeks ago has done nothing to help. BPs value has shrunk by 50%. 1 in 7 investing Americans and 1 in 6 investing British have a connection to BP. Pension plans that require their holdings to offer a dividend may have to offload BP further. Wow.....just WOW.....an American conservative talking like a communist. Insinuating that the state is responsible to uphold the value of a company because it impacts the populace. QuoteMeanwhile, the children in the administration are demanding billions that BP no longer has because their market cap is half of what it used to be, and on the coattails of what BP has already publicly stated it would do time and again in addition to full mitigation of the affected area. Markets love certainty. stock is up now that an amount has been established. BP's legal liability is capped at $75 million. I wonder what they were promised or told to blow that far past that amount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 June 18, 2010 Ah, where did he say it is the stated responcibility to uphold stock value???? The point is that the state should not be able to destroy a companies stock value with the bull shit rhetoric like Obama did! Then of course one could take your comments and apply them to the stimulus bs as well but, that is another thread"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #39 June 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteFrom Rep. Joe Barton this morning: "I’m ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday. I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown — in this case a $20 billion shakedown." In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. Coming next - Sarah Palin apologizes to Exxon for putting that reef in the way of their tanker, and John McCain apologizes to Mexico for the disturbing lack of trolley service across the Arizona/Mexico border. The guy has guts and called Obama for what he is Live with it DO you think the good congressman has yet to remove the rather large bright green with yellow BP logo butt plug yet??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 June 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteFrom Rep. Joe Barton this morning: "I’m ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday. I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown — in this case a $20 billion shakedown." In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. Coming next - Sarah Palin apologizes to Exxon for putting that reef in the way of their tanker, and John McCain apologizes to Mexico for the disturbing lack of trolley service across the Arizona/Mexico border. The guy has guts and called Obama for what he is Live with it DO you think the good congressman has yet to remove the rather large bright green with yellow BP logo butt plug yet??? I never look down there What are you seeing?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #41 June 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFrom Rep. Joe Barton this morning: "I’m ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday. I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown — in this case a $20 billion shakedown." In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. Coming next - Sarah Palin apologizes to Exxon for putting that reef in the way of their tanker, and John McCain apologizes to Mexico for the disturbing lack of trolley service across the Arizona/Mexico border. The guy has guts and called Obama for what he is Live with it DO you think the good congressman has yet to remove the rather large bright green with yellow BP logo butt plug yet??? I never look down there What are you seeing? Seems to be a really large one based on the campaign contributions he has recieved.... ... I wonder how many more they have bought and paid for to Texican politicians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #42 June 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFrom Rep. Joe Barton this morning: "I’m ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday. I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown — in this case a $20 billion shakedown." In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. Coming next - Sarah Palin apologizes to Exxon for putting that reef in the way of their tanker, and John McCain apologizes to Mexico for the disturbing lack of trolley service across the Arizona/Mexico border. The guy has guts and called Obama for what he is Live with it DO you think the good congressman has yet to remove the rather large bright green with yellow BP logo butt plug yet??? I never look down there What are you seeing? He removed it from his ass and it is now firmly lodged in his mouth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 June 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFrom Rep. Joe Barton this morning: "I’m ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday. I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown — in this case a $20 billion shakedown." In a startling coincidence that I am sure has nothing to do with this, Barton has received $1.4 million from BP in campaign contributions. Coming next - Sarah Palin apologizes to Exxon for putting that reef in the way of their tanker, and John McCain apologizes to Mexico for the disturbing lack of trolley service across the Arizona/Mexico border. The guy has guts and called Obama for what he is Live with it DO you think the good congressman has yet to remove the rather large bright green with yellow BP logo butt plug yet??? I never look down there What are you seeing? He removed it from his ass and it is now firmly lodged in his mouth. And you could tell how? By the smell?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #44 June 18, 2010 Quote Seems to be a really large one based on the campaign contributions he has recieved.... ... I wonder how many more they have bought and paid for to Texican politicians. how big can it be based on 27k over 20 years? As two of us have tried to correct - the 1.4M number is a lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #45 June 18, 2010 QuoteSeems to be a really large one based on the campaign contributions he has recieved. If that's the case, then our current CiC isn't sitting too comfortably in the oval office-and this time it isn't because Monica is under the desk.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 June 18, 2010 QuoteQuote Seems to be a really large one based on the campaign contributions he has recieved.... ... I wonder how many more they have bought and paid for to Texican politicians. how big can it be based on 27k over 20 years? As two of us have tried to correct - the 1.4M number is a lie. That still buys a bunch... Just need the BP LOGO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #47 June 18, 2010 Quote Quote Seems to be a really large one based on the campaign contributions he has recieved. If that's the case, then our current CiC isn't sitting too comfortably in the oval office-and this time it isn't because Monica is under the desk. Yeah and you guys are still jealous Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #48 June 18, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Seems to be a really large one based on the campaign contributions he has recieved. If that's the case, then our current CiC isn't sitting too comfortably in the oval office-and this time it isn't because Monica is under the desk. Yeah and you guys are still jealous Not jealousy, sympathy-I've had to do my share of fat chicks too.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #49 June 18, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Seems to be a really large one based on the campaign contributions he has recieved. If that's the case, then our current CiC isn't sitting too comfortably in the oval office-and this time it isn't because Monica is under the desk. Yeah and you guys are still jealous Not jealousy, sympathy-I've had to do my share of fat chicks too. DUDE.. he was getting blow jobs...... and ole Bill as a southern man... knows how rare those are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #50 June 18, 2010 I saw that last night and couldn’t believe it. But what I can’t not believe but should by now i guess is some of the replays to this thread. Does any one think BP should not be held responsible for the damage they caused if they are proven to be negligent?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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