mnealtx 0 #26 June 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteSeeing as how over 200 American were killed in Mexico between 2004 and 2008 ...and 83,119 were killed in the USA between 2004 and 2008 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_07.html You're eventually going to come up with something relevant to travel in Mexico (that being the premise of the thread), right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #27 June 21, 2010 QuoteCancun is not Mexico, it's an US tourist island in Mexico Which was part of the point I was trying to make. Cancun may be somewhat safe.. But even as close as 15 miles away, Even the locals will not travel on the roads because of the murders and kidnappings. Anyone that thinks it is safe to be in Mexico right now is either completely uninformed or has their head up their ass. When you have 100`s of people slaughtering each other over drug trafficking and there is little if any police presence (Outside of major tourist areas) then common sense says it just might be a good idea to say away for a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #28 June 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteSeeing as how over 200 American were killed in Mexico between 2004 and 2008 ...and 83,119 were killed in the USA between 2004 and 2008 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_07.html Between 2004 & 2008 is irrelevant. The animals have been on the warpath in Mexico only lately. This dysfunctional narco government is helpless as they're killing police, public officials as well as innocent victims. This cannot in any way be compared to the US where similar killings would have immediate and very severe full scale consequences for the offenders.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #29 June 21, 2010 Just be sure you have all of your paperwork in order. It is very difficult to enter the US from Mexico without proper documentation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #30 June 21, 2010 Sounds like good advice, to me. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #31 June 21, 2010 Quote It's a work trip, not personal. Cause the drug cartels care that it is work and not play?Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #32 June 21, 2010 Quote Quote It's a work trip, not personal. Cause the drug cartels care that it is work and not play? The drug cartels don't care, but I'm pretty sure his boss does.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #33 June 21, 2010 QuoteMost of the people that think it's dangerous have never been to mexico. It's like people telling you how crazy it is to jump from an airplane Any other time I would agree with you, but Mexico is not safe for anyone right now. I spent many summers in Mexico as a kid and loved it. You couldn't pay me to go there right now.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatmiser 0 #34 June 21, 2010 Quote Just be sure you have all of your paperwork in order. It is very difficult to enter the US from Mexico without proper documentation. Nah, a three week hike through the desert works. People do it all the time!What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #35 June 21, 2010 QuoteCancun may be somewhat safe I could be wrong, but I believe Cancun even had some drug violence not to long ago.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #36 June 21, 2010 Id be asking my boss for all kinds of kidnap insurance.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #37 June 21, 2010 Quote LQQK out for the chilangos! ...and 'chupacabra'! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 June 21, 2010 QuoteQuote LQQK out for the chilangos! ...and 'chupacabra'! Chuck I was *SO* gonna mention that, but didn't.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #39 June 21, 2010 QuoteI'm sure more American teenager die alone in Cancun thru alcohol poisoning during spring brake than all other Americans together in the rest of the country... Cancun is not Mexico, it's an US tourist island in Mexico Keep telling yourself that. Read the news, do a google search. Then try to say that it is safe.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #40 June 21, 2010 This thread makes me think of the Us citizens being held in Iran right now. People live with their heads in the clouds. Lets go to Afganistan and see the pretty out of the way places... lets go find that pretty waterfall. Oh...we didnt know it was in Iran. Oh they hate us there. Oh we are in jail now. Geez we are just wonderful Americans and are only here to enjoy this pretty scene in the desert. Can we go home now? People get a clue. It is not a good time to be an American traveling right now. FYI, the rest of the world really doesn't like us. We are targets just about every country we go to.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #41 June 21, 2010 QuoteSign posted along road in border area. Garsh,,,They are sooo friendly down that way...wish we could do the same Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #42 June 21, 2010 Quote Quote I'm sure more American teenager die alone in Cancun thru alcohol poisoning during spring brake than all other Americans together in the rest of the country... Cancun is not Mexico, it's an US tourist island in Mexico Keep telling yourself that. Read the news, do a google search. Then try to say that it is safe. Okay....I did ~Cancun's murder rate is approximately 4.7 per 100000 population...much lower than comparable US cities. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #43 June 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote I'm sure more American teenager die alone in Cancun thru alcohol poisoning during spring brake than all other Americans together in the rest of the country... Cancun is not Mexico, it's an US tourist island in Mexico Keep telling yourself that. Read the news, do a google search. Then try to say that it is safe. Okay....I did ~Cancun's murder rate is approximately 4.7 per 100000 population...much lower than comparable US cities. How old is the data? In the last 18 months it has gotten a lot "sportier" there!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #44 June 21, 2010 I will look more when I get home, but I bet those are older number. Try looking for numbers in the last 12 months. I bet you see that rate get a lot higher. . AS luck would have it, I was just on the phone with a customer from Mexico City. He didn't recommend Americans traveling to Mexico right now. In fact he said that he is getting ready to leave. He is the VP of a medium sized Marketing company and fears for his and his families safety. Enough for me to not want to go.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #45 June 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote I'm sure more American teenager die alone in Cancun thru alcohol poisoning during spring brake than all other Americans together in the rest of the country... Cancun is not Mexico, it's an US tourist island in Mexico Keep telling yourself that. Read the news, do a google search. Then try to say that it is safe. Okay....I did ~Cancun's murder rate is approximately 4.7 per 100000 population...much lower than comparable US cities. How old is the data? In the last 18 months it has gotten a lot "sportier" there! Yeah '07 is the latest I can find... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #46 June 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote LQQK out for the chilangos! ...and 'chupacabra'! Chuck I was *SO* gonna mention that, but didn't. Nanner... nanner!Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #47 June 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I'm sure more American teenager die alone in Cancun thru alcohol poisoning during spring brake than all other Americans together in the rest of the country... Cancun is not Mexico, it's an US tourist island in Mexico Keep telling yourself that. Read the news, do a google search. Then try to say that it is safe. They probably can't keep-up so, what's the use! Chuck Okay....I did ~Cancun's murder rate is approximately 4.7 per 100000 population...much lower than comparable US cities. How old is the data? In the last 18 months it has gotten a lot "sportier" there! Yeah '07 is the latest I can find... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #48 June 22, 2010 QuoteMost of the people that think it's dangerous have never been to mexico. Well just last weekend a corp plane broke down and the VIP's on board where not allowed to leave the protective detail or seek alternative travel arrangements. So the VIP's were stuck in Mexico at the hotel for fear of a kidnapping. Many of us have first hand knowledge and many more have official knowledge. Does that mean you are sure to die or get kidnapped? No, but the warnings should be listened to and considered. Personally, I would not go to many places in MX unless I had to go, and then I would stay as low profile as possible. Some areas are fine, but even the tourist places are seeing violence http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6111426-mexico-police-found-12-corpses-in-cancun-beach QuotePolice in the popular beach resort town in Mexico, Cancun, Friday (18 / 6), found the corpses of 12 people with signs they were tortured before being killed by drug gangs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #49 June 22, 2010 Quote..and 83,119 were killed in the USA between 2004 and 2008 And there were 300M in the US from 2004-2008, how many Americans were in MX at that time? You don't seem to grasp statistics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #50 June 22, 2010 I do travel Central and South America but I won't go to Mexico right now.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
