rushmc 23 #51 June 30, 2010 Quote I thought you were referring to the royal you. That would have made it perfectly aceptable as the standard has been set by a moderator on this site"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #52 June 30, 2010 Quote Quote I thought you were referring to the royal you. That would have made it perfectly aceptable as the standard has been set by a moderator on this site Still clueless as to what that means! ("All" the anti gun nuts?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 June 30, 2010 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3887509;search_string=%26quot%3Broyal%26quot%3B;#3887509 Post 28"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #54 June 30, 2010 Actually is it post 25 Sorry"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #55 June 30, 2010 QuoteActually is it post 25 Sorry Thanks, strangest damn thing I ever heard, but it is their game board, so gotta play by their rulse...just part of life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #56 June 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteActually is it post 25 Sorry Thanks, strangest damn thing I ever heard, but it is their game board, so gotta play by their rulse...just part of life! Yep But now you know where the royal came from"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #57 June 30, 2010 It really is funny to see all you guys be all upset about the royal we part....obviously none of you understand what the pluralis majestatis is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyBastard 0 #58 June 30, 2010 guns kill more people than they save. period. they are designed solely to kill people. i don't get americas fascination with them, and i've held a magnum, but my penis got NO bigger!Dude #320 "Superstitious" is just a polite way of saying "incredibly fucking stupid". DONK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #59 June 30, 2010 Upset, no---amused. More by the application than existence.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #60 June 30, 2010 Quote they are designed solely to kill people. hmm...I should ask for a refund then. I have 7 defective guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #61 June 30, 2010 Quote It really is funny to see all you guys be all upset about the royal we part....obviously none of you understand what the pluralis majestatis is. Upset? Not really And the One person or royal we ? big deal. It is the justification he used for the blatant PA. But he has set the standard. Doubt anyone else will be able to follow the lead It is called hypocrisy."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #62 June 30, 2010 Quote It really is funny to see all you guys be all upset about the royal we part....obviously none of you understand what the pluralis majestatis is. Did you miss the part where I said I didn't go to college? and it still makes no sense..other than be general, not direct! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #63 June 30, 2010 > I have 7 defective guns. They won't kill people? Interesting. Handguns are designed to kill people. That drives their design. They can be used for other things, of course, Take a parachute. It is designed to decelerate you at the end of a freefall and allow you to land safely. It can also be groundlaunched or kited, and can even be used as a car cover. THat doesn't change its intended purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #64 June 30, 2010 Quote Quote they are designed solely to kill people. hmm...I should ask for a refund then. I have 7 defective guns. ROFL.... I have "one" that works, some assholes were shooting at my naighbors house ,My 45 in their face took the fight right out of them!but the other 5 are defective! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #65 June 30, 2010 Quote And the One person or royal we ? big deal. It is the justification he used for the blatant PA. But he has set the standard. Doubt anyone else will be able to follow the lead Except that Pluralis Majestatis by definition refers back to the person using it. Basically he told himself to go fuck himself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #66 June 30, 2010 Quote Quote And the One person or royal we ? big deal. It is the justification he used for the blatant PA. But he has set the standard. Doubt anyone else will be able to follow the lead Except that Pluralis Majestatis by definition refers back to the person using it. Basically he told himself to go fuck himself Then why the fuck not just say that? why code words, and latin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #67 June 30, 2010 Quote> I have 7 defective guns. They won't kill people? Interesting. Handguns are designed to kill people. That drives their design. They can be used for other things, of course, You lost a word there from the prior citation. He said solely. And even your revision is incorrect. The 22s used for competitive shooting are not at all designed with the goal of killing people. My .22 has primary value as a full weight practice pistol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #68 June 30, 2010 Quote Quote And the One person or royal we ? big deal. It is the justification he used for the blatant PA. But he has set the standard. Doubt anyone else will be able to follow the lead Except that Pluralis Majestatis by definition refers back to the person using it. Basically he told himself to go fuck himself Now, If I really believed that is what he meant and said, well, in the royal sense, I would hope he could get it done"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martlet 0 #69 June 30, 2010 QuoteQuote> I have 7 defective guns. They won't kill people? Interesting. Handguns are designed to kill people. That drives their design. They can be used for other things, of course, You lost a word there from the prior citation. He said solely. And even your revision is incorrect. The 22s used for competitive shooting are not at all designed with the goal of killing people. My .22 has primary value as a full weight practice pistol. I could care less what it was designed for, personally. It's amazing that people assume the right to limit guns using the "saving lives" premise. In the meantime, denying others the right to own and use them as they see fit, harming nobody. The crimes committed with guns are already crimes. In most cases, they can be committed with knives, hammers, or or other household implements. You want to save lives? Ban automobiles. Those suckers kill a lot of people. They're also the favorite tool of drunk drivers. If you banned cars, we'd have far fewer drunk drivers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #70 June 30, 2010 QuoteQuoteGee, there appears to be some posters conspicuously absent in this thread. If today is an average day in the USA, some 80 - 100 people will die from gunshots today. Satisfied? It's nice that even when suicides are included guns are involved in an insignificant number of deaths. Every day over 750 Americans finish the slow suicide resulting from obesity and over eating. We'd do better regulating Big Macs than Mac 10s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #71 June 30, 2010 > The 22s used for competitive shooting are not at all designed with the >goal of killing people. Of course; there will always be exceptions. There are skydiving canopies that have been redesigned for ground launching; they are no longer designed primarily for stopping your freefall. Nevertheless, parachutes are designed to stop your freefall and save your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #72 June 30, 2010 So what you're saying is that you're right....except when you're wrongYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #73 June 30, 2010 >So what you're saying is that you're right....except when you're wrong Nope. I'm saying that facts don't change even when you find them somewhat inconvenient. Handguns are designed to project deadly force. That's why they are used for home defense, by police officers and by criminals. They are useful tools when deadly force, or the threat thereof, is required. They can also be used for other things. They can be used to practice the projection of deadly force. (That's why many targets in ranges have human shapes.) They can be used by people who like to collect such things. They can even be used as bottle openers. But if you argued that "I use my gun as a bottle opener, therefore it's not designed to be deadly" you'd look pretty silly, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #74 June 30, 2010 Quote Handguns are designed to project deadly force. That's why they are used for home defense, by police officers and by criminals. They are useful tools when deadly force, or the threat thereof, is required. you continue to fail to address the "solely" modifier. It makes an easy argument for you, but it's not entirely the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,063 #75 June 30, 2010 >you continue to fail to address the "solely" modifier. Sorry, I didn't go far enough back in the thread then. Handguns are designed to kill first and foremost, although they are used for other things - so "solely" is not accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites