lost_n_confuzd 0 #1 July 8, 2010 Iran promotes 'Islamic' haircuts Quote(CNN) -- Iran has laid down the law: mullets won't make the cut. The Islamic regime, which strictly enforces head coverings for women, issued grooming guidelines for the guys this week. Among the do's that are now don'ts? The '80's Prince-style pompadour preferred by many young Iranian men, the Steven Seagal-style ponytail and the "business in the front, party in the back" sentiment of the mullet -- also popular among the Persian populace. The approved styles have a distinctly 1950s look to them: short on the front and sides for the most part. But the gel-slathered, combed-back 1980s look also received the government's blessing. The "Islamic" haircuts were unveiled at the Hijab and Chastity Festival, a fashion event designed to show how the country's youth can be stylish yet not run afoul of the fashion police. "Hair styles have been designed based on the shape of the neck, beard, the size of the chin and provincial cultures," said Jaleh Khodayar, the secretary of the festival. Her comments were reported by the semiofficial Mehr news agency. "In designing these hair styles, we have not tried to go backward. On the contrary, we have tried to make our designs a mixture of our traditions and Iranian culture, as well as the latest fashions and by doing so confront the cultural assault by the West (on our country)." Click Source to read on... Source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/07/iran.haircuts/index.html?hpt=C1 It starts as a "guideline", but will probably become a law enforced by the religious police, or Mutaween, in the future. The only good thing from these guidelines is that hopefully many Iranian men can suffer the same humility that they've imposed on their women. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #2 July 8, 2010 If they had specifically banned mullets i would say that would be a good thing. But they didn't. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #3 July 8, 2010 I wonder if they can wear their pants down around their ass with their underwear showing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #4 July 8, 2010 Quote I wonder if they can wear their pants down around their ass with their underwear showing? Dude, they wear their man-dresses with no underwear. Somethings no matter how hard you try and how much you drink, are just so disturbing that you can't get them out of your head. Have you ever seen 2 Arab men on guard duty with AK-47's slung over their shoulders holding hands and kissing? But there is no homosexuality in IranShariah law has strict grooming standards, which is what Iran is moving to as it cracks down on it's people, but these laws will only be enforced on the political enemies of the Supreme Leader."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #5 July 8, 2010 Iranians are not Arabs. And clergy aside, most Iranian men wear trousers. Sorry for the buzz-kill, dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #6 July 8, 2010 Thanks Andy. I was just about to say that’s the stupidest most close-minded post of this thread yet, but I like what you said better. I would also add. What you consider normal is considered disturbing by some one from a different culture open your eyes. Your view is not the only view.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #7 July 8, 2010 QuoteIranians are not Arabs. And clergy aside, most Iranian men wear trousers. Sorry for the buzz-kill, dude. Impossible, I saw it on youtube. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #8 July 8, 2010 The odd thing for me is that this is nothing new. I know from first hand experience that they have enforced such laws from the start. I have personally been arrested for my hair and my clothes before that was 18 years ago when i had first returned to Iran. Quote The only good thing from these guidelines is that hopefully many Iranian men can suffer the same humility that they've imposed on their women. This is the hardest thing for me to try to explain to any one who has not experience the culture. Islam has a dress code for men and woman. So when it is categorized as just them trying to be dicks to woman it shows the typical western view of a culture they do not understand.. In Islam men and woman are required to keep parts of their bodies that would be enticing to the other sex covered. They want men and woman WHEN iIN PUBLIC to not be viewed as objects Sexual promiscuity is not a badge of honor in our culture. All that said is just to give you a better picture like I said I don’t expect it to make sense to you why people are that way they just are. However I absolutely agree with you that it is a bullshit rule. I don’t agree with anyone telling someone else how they should live their life. When religion and government are combined you have nothing but fascism.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #9 July 8, 2010 Quote Quote Iranians are not Arabs. And clergy aside, most Iranian men wear trousers. Sorry for the buzz-kill, dude. Impossible, I saw it on youtube. Not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. The same goes for the people of Iran. However I can't help but have dismay over how the fundamentalists are taking over countries little by little. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 July 8, 2010 Quote This is the hardest thing for me to try to explain to any one who has not experience the culture. Islam has a dress code for men and woman. So when it is categorized as just them trying to be dicks to woman it shows the typical western view of a culture they do not understand.. In Islam men and woman are required to keep parts of their bodies that would be enticing to the other sex covered. They want men and woman WHEN iIN PUBLIC to not be viewed as objects It's going to be difficult to explain given the two standards. For some Islamics, apparently any part of a woman is too enticing to be seen. Even the face is too much. Couple with bans on education, this seems more about keeping women down than protecting them from being seen as objects, esp when so many get killed like objects (honor killings). But that said, men got a lot of crap in the US for their long hair too. My father's offer to give time in math instruction to my school was passed over in the early 80s because it was too long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #11 July 8, 2010 QuoteNot all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. The same goes for the people of Iran. All those towelheads are muslims Ayrabs.....I saw it on youtube. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 July 8, 2010 QuoteQuote It's going to be difficult to explain given the two standards. For some Islamics, apparently any part of a woman is too enticing to be seen. Even the face is too much. Couple with bans on education, this seems more about keeping women down than protecting them from being seen as objects, esp when so many get killed like objects (honor killings). Harry Potter Star Padma Patil Dad, Brother Charged With Threatening To Kill Her Harry Potter actress Afshan Azad's father and brother have been charged with threatening to kill her. The 22-year-old, who plays witch Padma Patil in four of the wizard movies, was allegedly attacked by her two family members at her home in Manchester, England in May (10). Her dad and brother allegedly began arguing with the star over her boyfriend and demanded that she end the relationship. When Afshan refused she was allegedly attacked and left "badly bruised", reports Britain's Daily Express. Abdul Azad, 54, and his son Ashraf, 28, appeared at Manchester Magistrates' Court on Tuesday (29Jun10), accused of threatening to kill Afshan. Her brother was also charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm. Her Boyfriend is Hindu... she is Muslim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Southern_Man 0 #13 July 8, 2010 51% of Iranians are Persians. 3% of Iranians are Arabs. Other places say 65% Perian and 2% Arabs. Most of the non-Persians in Iran are various groups of Turkish speakers."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #14 July 8, 2010 Quote It's going to be difficult to explain given the two standards. For some Islamics, apparently any part of a woman is too enticing to be seen. Even the face is too much. Couple with bans on education, this seems more about keeping women down than protecting them from being seen as objects, esp when so many get killed like objects (honor killings). For some (insert any religion) add fucked up things they do. There is no point to such an argument. There are some people who do some fucked up shit all over the place. However in this thread he was mentioning Iran. Religion is used to manipulate and do many horrible things. It has been used to justify murder, torture, slavery, etc we can go on forever. Quote But that said, men got a lot of crap in the US for their long hair too. My father's offer to give time in math instruction to my school was passed over in the early 80s because it was too long. I bet he was never garbed from his car with armed solders holding Aks and takin to jail because his hair was long. Oh and long is relative my hair was like the kid in terminator 2 It was not like a Rock stare. Looking back it looked kinda gay. Iran is a crazy crazy place. Some days you feel like your living in Paris and other days it feels like you’re in broken African nation. There is so much contradiction. The safety and peace we have here is........i cant think of a word that would expreess how happy it makes me. But i love it life is so good that i get board, thats how spoild i think we are. and thankgod for that.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #15 July 8, 2010 No mullets? What about parachute pants - do they get to keep those? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #16 July 8, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Iranians are not Arabs. And clergy aside, most Iranian men wear trousers. Sorry for the buzz-kill, dude. Impossible, I saw it on youtube. Not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. The same goes for the people of Iran. However I can't help but have dismay over how the fundamentalists are taking over countries little by little. Speaking on a macro level, revolutions tend to occur in countries where governments are oppressive, or corrupt, or both. Many countries that in the past, say, 50 years have had either Communist or Muslim fundamentalist revolutions and/or coups d'etat were countries that had puppet governments covertly installed and/or propped by the American CIA because they were anti-Communist, when anti-Communism was, quite myopically, the only thing US foreign policy gave two shits about. This occurred all over Latin America and Asia, and to a lesser degree in Africa. Those governments' leaders took billions in American aid (one of the top 5 or so reasons Americans never developed a national health care system after WW2 like the rest of the developed world did), stole most of it, looted their own countries' treasuries as well (think: Imelda Marcos's shoes), kept their citizens in poverty, and repressed them with US-trained secret police to keep them compliant. This happened all over the world: Nicaragua. Panama. Guatemala. Argentina. Chile. South Vietnam. Indonesia. The Philippines. And, among others, Iran. In 1953, the CIA sponsored the coup that overthrew the existing government in Iran and replaced it with the Shah. He was a thief and a tyrant, but he was a bulwark against Communism, so the US propped him up. His secret police, the Savak, was notorious for its domestic brutality against Iranian citizens. The Islamic revolution in Iran of 1979 was the eventual result of that. If Americans want to direct their anger and disgust at the existence of the government Iran has had since 1979, a large portion of that anger and disgust should be directed at one of the principal root causes: the United States government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #17 July 8, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt's going to be difficult to explain given the two standards. For some Islamics, apparently any part of a woman is too enticing to be seen. Even the face is too much. Couple with bans on education, this seems more about keeping women down than protecting them from being seen as objects, esp when so many get killed like objects (honor killings). For some (insert any religion) add fucked up things they do. There is no point to such an argument. There are some people who do some fucked up shit all over the place. Indeed. But here we're talking about governments leading the insanity, which is a bit different than a whacky church or cult. Quote Quote But that said, men got a lot of crap in the US for their long hair too. My father's offer to give time in math instruction to my school was passed over in the early 80s because it was too long. I bet he was never garbed from his car with armed solders holding Aks and takin to jail because his hair was long. Oh and long is relative my hair was like the kid in terminator 2 It was not like a Rock stare. Hey, I was trying to throw you a bone here, but if you want to argue that Iran is more fucked up than the US, I'm not going to oppose you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #18 July 9, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Iranians are not Arabs. And clergy aside, most Iranian men wear trousers. Sorry for the buzz-kill, dude. Impossible, I saw it on youtube. Not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. The same goes for the people of Iran. However I can't help but have dismay over how the fundamentalists are taking over countries little by little. Speaking on a macro level, revolutions tend to occur in countries where governments are oppressive, or corrupt, or both. Many countries that in the past, say, 50 years have had either Communist or Muslim fundamentalist revolutions and/or coups d'etat were countries that had puppet governments covertly installed and/or propped by the American CIA because they were anti-Communist, when anti-Communism was, quite myopically, the only thing US foreign policy gave two shits about. This occurred all over Latin America and Asia, and to a lesser degree in Africa. Those governments' leaders took billions in American aid (one of the top 5 or so reasons Americans never developed a national health care system after WW2 like the rest of the developed world did), stole most of it, looted their own countries' treasuries as well (think: Imelda Marcos's shoes), kept their citizens in poverty, and repressed them with US-trained secret police to keep them compliant. This happened all over the world: Nicaragua. Panama. Guatemala. Argentina. Chile. South Vietnam. Indonesia. The Philippines. And, among others, Iran. In 1953, the CIA sponsored the coup that overthrew the existing government in Iran and replaced it with the Shah. He was a thief and a tyrant, but he was a bulwark against Communism, so the US propped him up. His secret police, the Savak, was notorious for its domestic brutality against Iranian citizens. The Islamic revolution in Iran of 1979 was the eventual result of that. If Americans want to direct their anger and disgust at the existence of the government Iran has had since 1979, a large portion of that anger and disgust should be directed at one of the principal root causes: the United States government. Not trying to split hairs over semantics, just trying to make a prediction. Iran, being mostly Shia will crack down on the population with the religious police and republican guard. Soon everyone not wearing traditional garb, head wrap, or not having a proper beard and mustache in accordance with Sharia law will be prosecuted because they are not loyal to their religion or their supreme leader. We've already seen it in other Muslim countries. I really don't think we are that far off from it."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #19 July 9, 2010 Quote Hey, I was trying to throw you a bone here, but if you want to argue that Iran is more fucked up than the US, I'm not going to oppose you. Contrary to some peoples belief I don’t approach any of the debates on here with the mindset of “I must protect my side”. People usually try to make a bad guy(s) and a good guy(s) in their head. Often the characters in real life are a lot more complicated. So true Irans has a bad government, and when it comes to freedom it is much more fucked then the US. At the same time the woman in Iran are not viewed or treated like many on here assume. We have more women in school then men, they have all the rights that men do. Now again I am not saying they are free as they are here, but I am also saying the perception that people have of for exs. of Saudi woman does not apply to Iran. Oh and if your going to throw me a bone can I get two ankles? Mine are fucked.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #20 July 9, 2010 QuoteContrary to some peoples belief I don’t approach any of the debates on here with the mindset of “I must protect my side”. People usually try to make a bad guy(s) and a good guy(s) in their head. Often the characters in real life are a lot more complicated. I refer you to any of the Israel/Gaza threads. QuoteSo true Irans has a bad government, and when it comes to freedom it is much more fucked then the US. At the same time the woman in Iran are not viewed or treated like many on here assume. We have more women in school then men, they have all the rights that men do. Have you let Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani know that? I can't seem to find where the man in the alleged adultery situation was whipped, imprisoned for the last 4 years or under threat of death by stoning.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #21 July 9, 2010 You have to start at the middle to see both sides Mike. I don't think you are or will ever be capable of that. QuoteHave you let Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani know that? I can't seem to find where the man in the alleged adultery situation was whipped, imprisoned for the last 4 years or under threat of death by stoning. (your type of logic answer below) Hey is everyone in Texas a racists fuck? Because I heard they like to drag black people to there death. Why do all texans hate black people and are so violent? ................................................Thats the way your mind works Mike. You grab one thing that supports your viwe and disriguard the hunders of things that don't.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #22 July 9, 2010 QuoteYou have to start at the middle to see both sides Mike. I don't think you are or will ever be capable of that. Make sure you let us all know when YOU start, ok? QuoteQuoteHave you let Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani know that? I can't seem to find where the man in the alleged adultery situation was whipped, imprisoned for the last 4 years or under threat of death by stoning. (your type of logic answer below) Hey is everyone in Texas a racists fuck? Because I heard they like to drag black people to there death. Why do all texans hate black people and are so violent? ................................................Thats the way your mind works Mike. You grab one thing that supports your viwe and disriguard the hunders of things that don't. 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Southern_Man 0 #13 July 8, 2010 51% of Iranians are Persians. 3% of Iranians are Arabs. Other places say 65% Perian and 2% Arabs. Most of the non-Persians in Iran are various groups of Turkish speakers."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #14 July 8, 2010 Quote It's going to be difficult to explain given the two standards. For some Islamics, apparently any part of a woman is too enticing to be seen. Even the face is too much. Couple with bans on education, this seems more about keeping women down than protecting them from being seen as objects, esp when so many get killed like objects (honor killings). For some (insert any religion) add fucked up things they do. There is no point to such an argument. There are some people who do some fucked up shit all over the place. However in this thread he was mentioning Iran. Religion is used to manipulate and do many horrible things. It has been used to justify murder, torture, slavery, etc we can go on forever. Quote But that said, men got a lot of crap in the US for their long hair too. My father's offer to give time in math instruction to my school was passed over in the early 80s because it was too long. I bet he was never garbed from his car with armed solders holding Aks and takin to jail because his hair was long. Oh and long is relative my hair was like the kid in terminator 2 It was not like a Rock stare. Looking back it looked kinda gay. Iran is a crazy crazy place. Some days you feel like your living in Paris and other days it feels like you’re in broken African nation. There is so much contradiction. The safety and peace we have here is........i cant think of a word that would expreess how happy it makes me. But i love it life is so good that i get board, thats how spoild i think we are. and thankgod for that.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 July 8, 2010 No mullets? What about parachute pants - do they get to keep those? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 July 8, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Iranians are not Arabs. And clergy aside, most Iranian men wear trousers. Sorry for the buzz-kill, dude. Impossible, I saw it on youtube. Not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. The same goes for the people of Iran. However I can't help but have dismay over how the fundamentalists are taking over countries little by little. Speaking on a macro level, revolutions tend to occur in countries where governments are oppressive, or corrupt, or both. Many countries that in the past, say, 50 years have had either Communist or Muslim fundamentalist revolutions and/or coups d'etat were countries that had puppet governments covertly installed and/or propped by the American CIA because they were anti-Communist, when anti-Communism was, quite myopically, the only thing US foreign policy gave two shits about. This occurred all over Latin America and Asia, and to a lesser degree in Africa. Those governments' leaders took billions in American aid (one of the top 5 or so reasons Americans never developed a national health care system after WW2 like the rest of the developed world did), stole most of it, looted their own countries' treasuries as well (think: Imelda Marcos's shoes), kept their citizens in poverty, and repressed them with US-trained secret police to keep them compliant. This happened all over the world: Nicaragua. Panama. Guatemala. Argentina. Chile. South Vietnam. Indonesia. The Philippines. And, among others, Iran. In 1953, the CIA sponsored the coup that overthrew the existing government in Iran and replaced it with the Shah. He was a thief and a tyrant, but he was a bulwark against Communism, so the US propped him up. His secret police, the Savak, was notorious for its domestic brutality against Iranian citizens. The Islamic revolution in Iran of 1979 was the eventual result of that. If Americans want to direct their anger and disgust at the existence of the government Iran has had since 1979, a large portion of that anger and disgust should be directed at one of the principal root causes: the United States government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #17 July 8, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt's going to be difficult to explain given the two standards. For some Islamics, apparently any part of a woman is too enticing to be seen. Even the face is too much. Couple with bans on education, this seems more about keeping women down than protecting them from being seen as objects, esp when so many get killed like objects (honor killings). For some (insert any religion) add fucked up things they do. There is no point to such an argument. There are some people who do some fucked up shit all over the place. Indeed. But here we're talking about governments leading the insanity, which is a bit different than a whacky church or cult. Quote Quote But that said, men got a lot of crap in the US for their long hair too. My father's offer to give time in math instruction to my school was passed over in the early 80s because it was too long. I bet he was never garbed from his car with armed solders holding Aks and takin to jail because his hair was long. Oh and long is relative my hair was like the kid in terminator 2 It was not like a Rock stare. Hey, I was trying to throw you a bone here, but if you want to argue that Iran is more fucked up than the US, I'm not going to oppose you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #18 July 9, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Iranians are not Arabs. And clergy aside, most Iranian men wear trousers. Sorry for the buzz-kill, dude. Impossible, I saw it on youtube. Not all Arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are Arabs. The same goes for the people of Iran. However I can't help but have dismay over how the fundamentalists are taking over countries little by little. Speaking on a macro level, revolutions tend to occur in countries where governments are oppressive, or corrupt, or both. Many countries that in the past, say, 50 years have had either Communist or Muslim fundamentalist revolutions and/or coups d'etat were countries that had puppet governments covertly installed and/or propped by the American CIA because they were anti-Communist, when anti-Communism was, quite myopically, the only thing US foreign policy gave two shits about. This occurred all over Latin America and Asia, and to a lesser degree in Africa. Those governments' leaders took billions in American aid (one of the top 5 or so reasons Americans never developed a national health care system after WW2 like the rest of the developed world did), stole most of it, looted their own countries' treasuries as well (think: Imelda Marcos's shoes), kept their citizens in poverty, and repressed them with US-trained secret police to keep them compliant. This happened all over the world: Nicaragua. Panama. Guatemala. Argentina. Chile. South Vietnam. Indonesia. The Philippines. And, among others, Iran. In 1953, the CIA sponsored the coup that overthrew the existing government in Iran and replaced it with the Shah. He was a thief and a tyrant, but he was a bulwark against Communism, so the US propped him up. His secret police, the Savak, was notorious for its domestic brutality against Iranian citizens. The Islamic revolution in Iran of 1979 was the eventual result of that. If Americans want to direct their anger and disgust at the existence of the government Iran has had since 1979, a large portion of that anger and disgust should be directed at one of the principal root causes: the United States government. Not trying to split hairs over semantics, just trying to make a prediction. Iran, being mostly Shia will crack down on the population with the religious police and republican guard. Soon everyone not wearing traditional garb, head wrap, or not having a proper beard and mustache in accordance with Sharia law will be prosecuted because they are not loyal to their religion or their supreme leader. We've already seen it in other Muslim countries. I really don't think we are that far off from it."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #19 July 9, 2010 Quote Hey, I was trying to throw you a bone here, but if you want to argue that Iran is more fucked up than the US, I'm not going to oppose you. Contrary to some peoples belief I don’t approach any of the debates on here with the mindset of “I must protect my side”. People usually try to make a bad guy(s) and a good guy(s) in their head. Often the characters in real life are a lot more complicated. So true Irans has a bad government, and when it comes to freedom it is much more fucked then the US. At the same time the woman in Iran are not viewed or treated like many on here assume. We have more women in school then men, they have all the rights that men do. Now again I am not saying they are free as they are here, but I am also saying the perception that people have of for exs. of Saudi woman does not apply to Iran. Oh and if your going to throw me a bone can I get two ankles? Mine are fucked.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #20 July 9, 2010 QuoteContrary to some peoples belief I don’t approach any of the debates on here with the mindset of “I must protect my side”. People usually try to make a bad guy(s) and a good guy(s) in their head. Often the characters in real life are a lot more complicated. I refer you to any of the Israel/Gaza threads. QuoteSo true Irans has a bad government, and when it comes to freedom it is much more fucked then the US. At the same time the woman in Iran are not viewed or treated like many on here assume. We have more women in school then men, they have all the rights that men do. Have you let Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani know that? I can't seem to find where the man in the alleged adultery situation was whipped, imprisoned for the last 4 years or under threat of death by stoning.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #21 July 9, 2010 You have to start at the middle to see both sides Mike. I don't think you are or will ever be capable of that. QuoteHave you let Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani know that? I can't seem to find where the man in the alleged adultery situation was whipped, imprisoned for the last 4 years or under threat of death by stoning. (your type of logic answer below) Hey is everyone in Texas a racists fuck? Because I heard they like to drag black people to there death. Why do all texans hate black people and are so violent? ................................................Thats the way your mind works Mike. You grab one thing that supports your viwe and disriguard the hunders of things that don't.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 July 9, 2010 QuoteYou have to start at the middle to see both sides Mike. I don't think you are or will ever be capable of that. Make sure you let us all know when YOU start, ok? QuoteQuoteHave you let Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani know that? I can't seem to find where the man in the alleged adultery situation was whipped, imprisoned for the last 4 years or under threat of death by stoning. (your type of logic answer below) Hey is everyone in Texas a racists fuck? Because I heard they like to drag black people to there death. Why do all texans hate black people and are so violent? ................................................Thats the way your mind works Mike. You grab one thing that supports your viwe and disriguard the hunders of things that don't. So prove me wrong - show me where the man was punished.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites