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The post you replied to has nothing to do with the BP. And I'm perfectly willing to use SPLC as a source of first guess as to whether an organization counts as a hate group.

The SPLC has a number of its chapters listed as hate groups: link.

They don't tar the national organization as a rule, they go after individual chapters with actual activities.

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Now would you like to come up with a cogent argument why you believe many of those groups do not belong on that list? I mean they do wrap themselves in patriotic symbols and believe in Christian Identity, the flag and apple pie.

You must have me confused with some other poster. In never made those claims or inferences. The list is irrelevant to my point. I just wondered what makes a hate group "right wing" vs "left wing," in your opinion. In other words, if I were to want to start a hate group, and get a good website, and pass out literature, and hold meetings with people of like mind, and I came to you and said - Hey Ms. Amazon, what kind of hate group are we? How would you determine that? What questions would you ask?

I guess YOU have to determine what is right wing to you now doesn't it.

I realize a lot of our so called "conservative" posters here seem to think ANYONE that does not agree with them is a liberal as evidenced by their posting habits.

There is little room for anone who ain't marchin to their old time tunes.

Funny when I go to the C of CC website.. I see those same "conservative" values being trumpeted there.

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Do you have an answer for him, or just a redirect?

90% of the posts in this thread are redirects. What does the KKK, other hate groups, libs and tea parties have to do with wether or not the NBPP is a hate group?

And WTF does 90% of all hate groups are "right wing" have to do with the NBPP??? That's the most retarded post I've read in this thread, even more retarded than the OP labeling the NBPP as a "terrorist" group.

The only real question is do you think the NBPP is a hate group? Yes or no, and why do you think that?

There have been many links to articles, videos of voter intimidation, videos of NBPP's Chairman, etc... to back up the claim the NBPP is a hate group. They're on the list someone posted of all the "RW" groups.

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Seems White hate groups= "bad"

Black or Muslim hate groups = "OK"

I never realised hate was only allowed one sided...I was raised to know it is all Hate!

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BTW, for the record, (since some seem to be stuck on this point)

KKK =Terrorist

American Nazi's =Terrorst

Skinheads =Terrorist

New Black Panther Party = Terrorist!

Muslim Extremist = Terrorist

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I guess YOU have to determine what is right wing to you now doesn't it.

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Since you won't or can't answer the question, I suppose it will.

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I guess YOU have to determine what is right wing to you now doesn't it.

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Since you won't or can't answer the question, I suppose it will.

Come on.... you should know what qualifies as right wing.

How much of this do you agree with?

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I realize a lot of our so called "conservative" posters here seem to think ANYONE that does not agree with them is a liberal as evidenced by their posting habits.

Odd - that seems to be YOUR gig.

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There is little room for anone who ain't marchin to their old time tunes.

Same here.

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I realize a lot of our so called "conservative" posters here seem to think ANYONE that does not agree with them is a liberal as evidenced by their posting habits.

Odd - that seems to be YOUR gig.

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There is little room for anone who ain't marchin to their old time tunes.

Same here.

If it sounds like a right wing poster, and says the same tired old right wing mantra... then it must be a rhinocerous right Mikee

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I realize a lot of our so called "conservative" posters here seem to think ANYONE that does not agree with them is a liberal as evidenced by their posting habits.

Odd - that seems to be YOUR gig.

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There is little room for anone who ain't marchin to their old time tunes.

Same here.

If it sounds like a right wing poster, and says the same tired old right wing mantra... then it must be a rhinocerous right Mikee

And if it sounds like a left wing poster, and spews the same old tired left wing hate....then it must be a zebra - right Jeannie?

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I realize a lot of our so called "conservative" posters here seem to think ANYONE that does not agree with them is a liberal as evidenced by their posting habits.

Odd - that seems to be YOUR gig.

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There is little room for anone who ain't marchin to their old time tunes.

Same here.

If it sounds like a right wing poster, and says the same tired old right wing mantra... then it must be a rhinocerous right Mikee

And if it sounds like a left wing poster, and spews the same old tired left wing hate....then it must be a zebra - right Jeannie?

In the minds of the goose steppers... who the fuck knows since they think EVERYONE else but them are wrong about everything.... kinda goes with the paramoia... that everyone is out to get them.

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I realize a lot of our so called "conservative" posters here seem to think ANYONE that does not agree with them is a liberal as evidenced by their posting habits.

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There is little room for anone who ain't marchin to their old time tunes.

Same here.

If it sounds like a right wing poster, and says the same tired old right wing mantra... then it must be a rhinocerous right Mikee

And if it sounds like a left wing poster, and spews the same old tired left wing hate....then it must be a zebra - right Jeannie?

In the minds of the goose steppers... who the fuck knows since they think EVERYONE else but them are wrong about everything.... kinda goes with the paramoia... that everyone is out to get them.

Oh, so just like YOU do over and over and over and over and over, then.

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Nah I would be good with everyone just letting other people live their lives... something those in the American Taliban AKA the rePUBICan Party with its run amuck fundamentalist platforms will not allow

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Nah I would be good with everyone just letting other people live their lives... something those in the American Taliban AKA the rePUBICan Party with its run amuck fundamentalist platforms will not allow

Speaking of paranoia... but perhaps I'm wrong - maybe you can show me all those incidents of people being forced to church at gunpoint?

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Nah I would be good with everyone just letting other people live their lives... something those in the American Taliban AKA the rePUBICan Party with its run amuck fundamentalist platforms will not allow

Speaking of paranoia... but perhaps I'm wrong - maybe you can show me all those incidents of people being forced to church at gunpoint?

How about the millions of Americans who show up in church in their small communities because to not show up means to be ostracized in their community.

How about Ari Force Cadets forced to attend for the same reason.

It goes on and on Mike and if your fellow travelers had their way we would indeed have a de facto theocracy... not just in places where the inflexible hold sway.

The amount of stupid laws in this society that is based on morals clauses based on Biblical Scripture is appalling. And the Christian Identity movement...aka Aryan Nations, KKK, C 0f CC etc. is indeed a part of that drive.

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Nah I would be good with everyone just letting other people live their lives... something those in the American Taliban AKA the rePUBICan Party with its run amuck fundamentalist platforms will not allow

Speaking of paranoia... but perhaps I'm wrong - maybe you can show me all those incidents of people being forced to church at gunpoint?

ROFLMAO...

Might find such pictures in Iraq or iran!

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Nah I would be good with everyone just letting other people live their lives... something those in the American Taliban AKA the rePUBICan Party with its run amuck fundamentalist platforms will not allow

Speaking of paranoia... but perhaps I'm wrong - maybe you can show me all those incidents of people being forced to church at gunpoint?

How about the millions of Americans who show up in church in their small communities because to not show up means to be ostracized in theri community.

How about Ari Force Cadets forced to attend for the same reason.

It goes on and on Mike and if your fellow travellers had their way we would indeed have a de facto theocracy... not just in places where the inflexible hold sway.

The amount of stupid laws in this society that is based on morals clauses based on Biblical Scripture is appalling. And the Christian Identity movement...aka Aryan Nations, KKK, C 0f CC etc. is indeed a part of that drive.

So...You finally see it....The NBBP is no diffferent than ANY hate group!

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Nah I would be good with everyone just letting other people live their lives... something those in the American Taliban AKA the rePUBICan Party with its run amuck fundamentalist platforms will not allow

Speaking of paranoia... but perhaps I'm wrong - maybe you can show me all those incidents of people being forced to church at gunpoint?

ROFLMAO...

Might find such pictures in Iraq or iran!

Ohg wait - you mean she didn't respond to that one?

BIG F'n surprise.

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It goes on and on Mike and if your fellow travelers had their way we would indeed have a de facto theocracy... not just in places where the inflexible hold sway.

Yes, that right, Jeanne - the bible-thumpers are coming to get you!!!

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The amount of stupid laws in this society that is based on morals clauses based on Biblical Scripture is appalling.

Odd - you seem to be all ABOUT morals (death penalty, Obamacare, etc) so long as the morals argument goes YOUR way.

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Nah I would be good with everyone just letting other people live their lives... something those in the American Taliban AKA the rePUBICan Party with its run amuck fundamentalist platforms will not allow

Speaking of paranoia... but perhaps I'm wrong - maybe you can show me all those incidents of people being forced to church at gunpoint?

How about the millions of Americans who show up in church in their small communities because to not show up means to be ostracized in theri community.

How about Ari Force Cadets forced to attend for the same reason.

It goes on and on Mike and if your fellow travellers had their way we would indeed have a de facto theocracy... not just in places where the inflexible hold sway.

The amount of stupid laws in this society that is based on morals clauses based on Biblical Scripture is appalling. And the Christian Identity movement...aka Aryan Nations, KKK, C 0f CC etc. is indeed a part of that drive.

So...You finally see it....The NBBP is no diffferent than ANY hate group!

HOLY SHIT PRIVATE PYLE....... I do believe I said that WAY the fuck back here

Some folks just aint so quick on the uptake around these parts

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It goes on and on Mike and if your fellow travelers had their way we would indeed have a de facto theocracy... not just in places where the inflexible hold sway.

Yes, that right, Jeanne - the bible-thumpers are coming to get you!!!

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The amount of stupid laws in this society that is based on morals clauses based on Biblical Scripture is appalling.

Odd - you seem to be all ABOUT morals (death penalty, Obamacare, etc) so long as the morals argument goes YOUR way.

8 years of Parochial school and growing up with fine ole down home Bible Belt types to teach you what Jesus would do has that effect.

I expect those who CLAIM it.. to live it. Therre is right and wrong.... and a whole lot of you folks on the fringe right preach it.. but certainly do not live it.

Whats your excuse for supporting things that the Lord would not????

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It goes on and on Mike and if your fellow travelers had their way we would indeed have a de facto theocracy... not just in places where the inflexible hold sway.

Yes, that right, Jeanne - the bible-thumpers are coming to get you!!!

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The amount of stupid laws in this society that is based on morals clauses based on Biblical Scripture is appalling.

Odd - you seem to be all ABOUT morals (death penalty, Obamacare, etc) so long as the morals argument goes YOUR way.

8 years of Parochial school and growing up with fine ole down home Bible Belt types to teach you what Jesus would do has that effect.

I expect those who CLAIM it.. to live it. Therre is right and wrong.... and a whole lot of you folks on the fringe right preach it.. but certainly do not live it.

Whats your excuse for supporting things that the Lord would not????

Like adultery? Oh, wait - that's YOUR gig, too.

Sorry, but I never claimed to be a bible thumper.

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I guess YOU have to determine what is right wing to you now doesn't it.

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Since you won't or can't answer the question, I suppose it will.

Come on.... you should know what qualifies as right wing.

How much of this do you agree with?

These people call themselves "Conservatives," so that makes them conservative and what they say characterizes "the Right?"

So - by that standard - if some other group calls itself "Socialist," whatever it claims defines "the Left?"

Well, a lifelong Socialist from impeccable Progressive roots was none other than Benito Mussolini. The name he chose for his personal party was "Fascist," and he made it quite clear that Fascism, being his personal invention, was nothing more or less than whatever he claimed it was.

Then you have Socialism as a National Institution. The "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" forseen by Marx was never so clearly typified as in the National Socialist German Workers Party - whose leader was a Prole if there ever was one.

I see a lot more similarity amongst extremists of any stripe than I do differences, and think the labels they choose are largely arbitrary. Whether the claimed basis of a totalitarian regime is racial, religious, nationalistic or whatever is a matter of indifference in the long run. If you are being worked to death in a camp, I doubt if it would matter in the least if the organization that built it paid lip service to one political, religious or racial ideal or another - the net result is the same.

In any event, you have a problem with definitions. When you have a multi-dimensional system characterized by a one-dimensional descriptor, it is not just ambiguous but entirely meaningless.

When someone demonstrates the inability to define their terms ("Come on.... you should know what qualifies as right wing"), I call bullshit.


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Or maybe it was where you told him "I know that's what Rush, Beck, and Hannity tell you, but use your own intellect for a change."

Or maybe where you mention his "Limbaugh ruled world".

Wow. You win, if you have enough free time to do searches on posts I made to another poster in other threads from months ago just to come up with a couple of quotes to support a mistake you clearly made, you have much more free time than I do.

You've beaten me into submission, congrats.

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It goes on and on Mike and if your fellow travelers had their way we would indeed have a de facto theocracy... not just in places where the inflexible hold sway.

Yes, that right, Jeanne - the bible-thumpers are coming to get you!!!

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The amount of stupid laws in this society that is based on morals clauses based on Biblical Scripture is appalling.

Odd - you seem to be all ABOUT morals (death penalty, Obamacare, etc) so long as the morals argument goes YOUR way.

8 years of Parochial school and growing up with fine ole down home Bible Belt types to teach you what Jesus would do has that effect.

I expect those who CLAIM it.. to live it. Therre is right and wrong.... and a whole lot of you folks on the fringe right preach it.. but certainly do not live it.

Whats your excuse for supporting things that the Lord would not????

Like adultery? Oh, wait - that's YOUR gig, too.

Sorry, but I never claimed to be a bible thumper.

I would say a VERY large percentage of your fellow travellers are BOTH