Amazon 7 #226 July 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI guess YOU have to determine what is right wing to you now doesn't it. ?? Since you won't or can't answer the question, I suppose it will. Come on.... you should know what qualifies as right wing. How much of this do you agree with? These people call themselves "Conservatives," so that makes them conservative and what they say characterizes "the Right?" So - by that standard - if some other group calls itself "Socialist," whatever it claims defines "the Left?" Well, a lifelong Socialist from impeccable Progressive roots was none other than Benito Mussolini. The name he chose for his personal party was "Fascist," and he made it quite clear that Fascism, being his personal invention, was nothing more or less than whatever he claimed it was. Then you have Socialism as a National Institution. The "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" forseen by Marx was never so clearly typified as in the National Socialist German Workers Party - whose leader was a Prole if there ever was one. I see a lot more similarity amongst extremists of any stripe than I do differences, and think the labels they choose are largely arbitrary. Whether the claimed basis of a totalitarian regime is racial, religious, nationalistic or whatever is a matter of indifference in the long run. If you are being worked to death in a camp, I doubt if it would matter in the least if the organization that built it paid lip service to one political, religious or racial ideal or another - the net result is the same. In any event, you have a problem with definitions. When you have a multi-dimensional system characterized by a one-dimensional descriptor, it is not just ambiguous but entirely meaningless. When someone demonstrates the inability to define their terms ("Come on.... you should know what qualifies as right wing"), I call bullshit. BSBD, Winsor I would say that most of those who post here with "conservative" values... do indeed know what right wing is. They only need look in the mirror this morning while shaving, or washing their faces. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #227 July 21, 2010 >>I expect those who CLAIM it.. to live it. Therre is right and wrong.... >>and a whole lot of you folks on the fringe right preach it.. but certainly do >>not live it. >>Whats your excuse for supporting things that the Lord would not???? >Like adultery? Oh, wait - that's YOUR gig, too. Both of you cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #228 July 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteOr maybe it was where you told him "I know that's what Rush, Beck, and Hannity tell you, but use your own intellect for a change." Or maybe where you mention his "Limbaugh ruled world". Wow. You win, if you have enough free time to do searches Don't flatter yourself - as I recall, those were all on the first page of the search. Quoteon posts I made to another poster in other threads from months ago just to come up with a couple of quotes to support a mistake you clearly made, you have much more free time than I do. Um, no - that would be the mistake YOU made, talking about how you don't call people out.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #229 July 21, 2010 I would say that most of those who post here with "conservative" values... do indeed know what right wing is. They only need look in the mirror this morning while shaving, or washing their faces.Quote If you cannot define your terms, that renders meaningless anything you state. If, however, you are capable of defining your terms, please do so. Copy and paste of the lexical definition is acceptable - if those are the definitions you choose. BSBD. Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #230 July 21, 2010 QuoteDon't flatter yourself - as I recall, those were all on the first page of the search. I'm not sure what search you did, but I've replied to rushmc dozens of times over the years. You obviously had to read through a bunch of replies before you found two that you thought supported your position. QuoteUm, no - that would be the mistake YOU made, talking about how you don't call people out. What are you talking about? YOU MADE THE FUCKING MISTAKE!!! You chided me for another poster's words. When I pointed out that I wasn't the person you should be chiding you decided to show that I had done something remotely similar months ago. All I said in this thread was that I hadn't commented on his spelling or mis-linking. In fact, I've never called anyone out for spelling (do that search if you want) and I only call people out on linking things when their links don't support their argument. Anyway, you win. Your superior debate skills have clearly proven rushmc's assertion that leftist groups are the only hate groups that have recently been acting out. Well done (golf clap). - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #231 July 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteDon't flatter yourself - as I recall, those were all on the first page of the search. I'm not sure what search you did, but I've replied to rushmc dozens of times over the years. You obviously had to read through a bunch of replies before you found two that you thought supported your position. Nope - only took a second. Here's a hint: "Your search for [rushmc] in posts made by dang returned 79 results in 0.336s." QuoteQuoteUm, no - that would be the mistake YOU made, talking about how you don't call people out. What are you talking about? YOU MADE THE FUCKING MISTAKE!!! You chided me for another poster's words. When I pointed out that I wasn't the person you should be chiding you decided to show that I had done something remotely similar months ago. All I said in this thread was that I hadn't commented on his spelling or mis-linking. In fact, I've never called anyone out for spelling (do that search if you want) and I only call people out on linking things when their links don't support their argument. You didn't specify 'in this thread' in your original statement about not calling people out. QuoteAnyway, you win. Your superior debate skills links to evidence have clearly proven rushmc's assertion that leftist groups are the only hate groups that have recently been acting out. Well done (golf clap). Fixed that for you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #232 July 21, 2010 Quote I would say that most of those who post here with "conservative" values... do indeed know what right wing is. They only need look in the mirror this morning while shaving, or washing their faces. Quote If you cannot define your terms, that renders meaningless anything you state. If, however, you are capable of defining your terms, please do so. Copy and paste of the lexical definition is acceptable - if those are the definitions you choose. BSBD. Winsor Hey go for it.. as a LEARNING excercise for you since you and others seem to need it SPELLED out for you." ">right wing Main Entry: right wing Function: noun Date: 1856 1 : the rightist division of a group or party 2 : right 8 — right–wing \ˈrīt-ˈwiŋ, -ˌwiŋ\ adjective — right–wing·er \ˈrīt-ˈwiŋ-ər, ˌrīt-\ noun Right Wing Politics Today it is primarily used to refer to political groups that have a historical connection with the traditional Right, including conservatives, reactionaries, monarchists, aristocrats and theocrats. The term is also used to describe those who support free market capitalism, and those who support some forms of nationalism. The US Department of Homeland Security defines right-wing extremism as hate groups who target racial, ethnic or religious minorities and may be dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. Religious fundamentalists have often supported the use of political power to enforce their religious beliefs. Conservative authoritarians and those on the far right have supported corporatism.[52] Right-wing populism is a combination of ethno-nationalism with anti-elitist populist rhetoric and a radical critique of existing political institutions. According to Margaret Canovan, a right-wing populist is "...a charismatic leader, using the tactics of politicians’ populism to go past the politicians and intellectual elite and appeal to the reactionary sentiments of the populace, often buttressing his claim to speak for the people by the use of referendums. Modern examples of right-wing populists include Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Glenn Beck in America, Udo Voigt in Germany, and Silvio Berlusconi in Italy.[55][56][ The term "family values" has had different meanings in different cultures. In the late 20th- and early 21st Centuries, the term has been frequently used in political debate, especially by social and religious conservatives, who believe that the world has seen a decline in family values since the end of the Second World War.[47] The term has been used as a buzzword by right-wing parties such as the Republican Party in the United States, the Family First Party in Australia, the Conservative party in the United Kingdom and the Bharatiya Janata Party in India. Right-wing supporters of "family values" generally oppose abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, and adultery. The Christian right is a major political force in the West, supported by the Republican Party in the United States and by Christian Democratic parties in Europe. They generally support laws upholding religious values, and laws against illegal immigration.[60] Hindu nationalism has been a part of right-wing politics in India. A form of conservative populism, the movement has attracted not only privileged groups fearing encroachment on their dominant positions, but also "plebeian" and impoverished groups seeking recognition around a majoritarian rhetoric of cultural pride, order, and national strength.[61] The Likud party in Israel expresses support for the Torah within the context of civil Judaism. Many Islamist groups have been associated with the right, such as the Great Union Party,[62] the Felicity Party[63] of Turkey and the Combatant Clergy Association/Association of Millitant Clergy ('Jame'e-ye Rowhaniyat-e Mobarez)[64][65] and the Islamic Society of Engineers[66][67] of Iran. Today many social and religious conservatives find themselves in opposition to scientific organizations over such topics as evolution and the global warming debate.[ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #233 July 22, 2010 http://www.wyff4.com/news/24341935/detail.html Black Panther's Statement Shocks Former NAACP Pres.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #234 July 24, 2010 Hmm, The Bush Admin dropped it? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/24/gop-lawmakers-investigation-alleged-racial-politics-justice-dept/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next Page 10 of 10 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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DanG 1 #230 July 21, 2010 QuoteDon't flatter yourself - as I recall, those were all on the first page of the search. I'm not sure what search you did, but I've replied to rushmc dozens of times over the years. You obviously had to read through a bunch of replies before you found two that you thought supported your position. QuoteUm, no - that would be the mistake YOU made, talking about how you don't call people out. What are you talking about? YOU MADE THE FUCKING MISTAKE!!! You chided me for another poster's words. When I pointed out that I wasn't the person you should be chiding you decided to show that I had done something remotely similar months ago. All I said in this thread was that I hadn't commented on his spelling or mis-linking. In fact, I've never called anyone out for spelling (do that search if you want) and I only call people out on linking things when their links don't support their argument. Anyway, you win. Your superior debate skills have clearly proven rushmc's assertion that leftist groups are the only hate groups that have recently been acting out. Well done (golf clap). - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #231 July 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteDon't flatter yourself - as I recall, those were all on the first page of the search. I'm not sure what search you did, but I've replied to rushmc dozens of times over the years. You obviously had to read through a bunch of replies before you found two that you thought supported your position. Nope - only took a second. Here's a hint: "Your search for [rushmc] in posts made by dang returned 79 results in 0.336s." QuoteQuoteUm, no - that would be the mistake YOU made, talking about how you don't call people out. What are you talking about? YOU MADE THE FUCKING MISTAKE!!! You chided me for another poster's words. When I pointed out that I wasn't the person you should be chiding you decided to show that I had done something remotely similar months ago. All I said in this thread was that I hadn't commented on his spelling or mis-linking. In fact, I've never called anyone out for spelling (do that search if you want) and I only call people out on linking things when their links don't support their argument. You didn't specify 'in this thread' in your original statement about not calling people out. QuoteAnyway, you win. Your superior debate skills links to evidence have clearly proven rushmc's assertion that leftist groups are the only hate groups that have recently been acting out. Well done (golf clap). Fixed that for you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #232 July 21, 2010 Quote I would say that most of those who post here with "conservative" values... do indeed know what right wing is. They only need look in the mirror this morning while shaving, or washing their faces. Quote If you cannot define your terms, that renders meaningless anything you state. If, however, you are capable of defining your terms, please do so. Copy and paste of the lexical definition is acceptable - if those are the definitions you choose. BSBD. Winsor Hey go for it.. as a LEARNING excercise for you since you and others seem to need it SPELLED out for you." ">right wing Main Entry: right wing Function: noun Date: 1856 1 : the rightist division of a group or party 2 : right 8 — right–wing \ˈrīt-ˈwiŋ, -ˌwiŋ\ adjective — right–wing·er \ˈrīt-ˈwiŋ-ər, ˌrīt-\ noun Right Wing Politics Today it is primarily used to refer to political groups that have a historical connection with the traditional Right, including conservatives, reactionaries, monarchists, aristocrats and theocrats. The term is also used to describe those who support free market capitalism, and those who support some forms of nationalism. The US Department of Homeland Security defines right-wing extremism as hate groups who target racial, ethnic or religious minorities and may be dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. Religious fundamentalists have often supported the use of political power to enforce their religious beliefs. Conservative authoritarians and those on the far right have supported corporatism.[52] Right-wing populism is a combination of ethno-nationalism with anti-elitist populist rhetoric and a radical critique of existing political institutions. According to Margaret Canovan, a right-wing populist is "...a charismatic leader, using the tactics of politicians’ populism to go past the politicians and intellectual elite and appeal to the reactionary sentiments of the populace, often buttressing his claim to speak for the people by the use of referendums. Modern examples of right-wing populists include Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Glenn Beck in America, Udo Voigt in Germany, and Silvio Berlusconi in Italy.[55][56][ The term "family values" has had different meanings in different cultures. In the late 20th- and early 21st Centuries, the term has been frequently used in political debate, especially by social and religious conservatives, who believe that the world has seen a decline in family values since the end of the Second World War.[47] The term has been used as a buzzword by right-wing parties such as the Republican Party in the United States, the Family First Party in Australia, the Conservative party in the United Kingdom and the Bharatiya Janata Party in India. Right-wing supporters of "family values" generally oppose abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, and adultery. The Christian right is a major political force in the West, supported by the Republican Party in the United States and by Christian Democratic parties in Europe. They generally support laws upholding religious values, and laws against illegal immigration.[60] Hindu nationalism has been a part of right-wing politics in India. A form of conservative populism, the movement has attracted not only privileged groups fearing encroachment on their dominant positions, but also "plebeian" and impoverished groups seeking recognition around a majoritarian rhetoric of cultural pride, order, and national strength.[61] The Likud party in Israel expresses support for the Torah within the context of civil Judaism. Many Islamist groups have been associated with the right, such as the Great Union Party,[62] the Felicity Party[63] of Turkey and the Combatant Clergy Association/Association of Millitant Clergy ('Jame'e-ye Rowhaniyat-e Mobarez)[64][65] and the Islamic Society of Engineers[66][67] of Iran. Today many social and religious conservatives find themselves in opposition to scientific organizations over such topics as evolution and the global warming debate.[ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #233 July 22, 2010 http://www.wyff4.com/news/24341935/detail.html Black Panther's Statement Shocks Former NAACP Pres.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #234 July 24, 2010 Hmm, The Bush Admin dropped it? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/24/gop-lawmakers-investigation-alleged-racial-politics-justice-dept/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
