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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.



so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?
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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.



so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?



Feel free to show where I said that, Kevin.
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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.


so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?


Feel free to show where I said that, Kevin.


just did :)
(now back to blatant israeli racism - the thread topic)
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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.


so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?


Feel free to show where I said that, Kevin.


just did :)
(now back to blatant israeli racism - the thread topic)


Lie.

Show the post I made that said those exact words, Kevin. PROVE something, for once in your posting history.
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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.


so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?


Feel free to show where I said that, Kevin.


just did :)
(now back to blatant israeli racism - the thread topic)


Lie.

Show the post I made that said those exact words, Kevin. PROVE something, for once in your posting history.


nevermind, he just likes saying that about pretty much everyone.. :D
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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.


so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?


Feel free to show where I said that, Kevin.


just did :)
(now back to blatant israeli racism - the thread topic)


Lie.

Show the post I made that said those exact words, Kevin. PROVE something, for once in your posting history.


nevermind, he just likes saying that about pretty much everyone.. :D


Oh, I know - I was just hoping for some integrity in his posting, for once.

How ya been, VB?
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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.


so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?


Feel free to show where I said that, Kevin.


just did :)
(now back to blatant israeli racism - the thread topic)


Lie.

Show the post I made that said those exact words, Kevin. PROVE something, for once in your posting history.


show me the quote where hitler says the exact words 'i am going to extirminate all the jews in death camps'.
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It will happen eventually. It's pretty peaceful after an armageddon. :P



I don't get the sense that either the Jews or the Muslims want Armageddon in their area. It seems to be mainly Christians who don't actually have to live in the area who are warmongering for Armageddon in the Middle East. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
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To be fair, they were prosecuted and convicted -- so obviously it's seen as wrong by many.

Wendy P.



A correction - it's seen as wrong outside of the Muslim community.


so you're calling all arabs bloodthirsty animals?


Feel free to show where I said that, Kevin.


just did :)
(now back to blatant israeli racism - the thread topic)


Lie.

Show the post I made that said those exact words, Kevin. PROVE something, for once in your posting history.


show me the quote where hitler says the exact words 'i am going to extirminate all the jews in death camps'.


Hitler doesn't post here.

Prove your claim.
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doing good, i'll probably win the prize for the most hop n'pops this season, enjoying the new gear, learning the new canopy and working on getting my swoop on!

oh wait, this is SC, i cant talk skydiving here, right!? :P

:D:D:D

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doing good, i'll probably win the prize for the most hop n'pops this season, enjoying the new gear, learning the new canopy and working on getting my swoop on!



Glad things are going well for you.

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oh wait, this is SC, i cant talk skydiving here, right!? :P

:D:D:D



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There - all fixed! ;)
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doing good, i'll probably win the prize for the most hop n'pops this season, enjoying the new gear, learning the new canopy and working on getting my swoop on!

oh wait, this is SC, i cant talk skydiving here, right!? :P

:D:D:D



No, Chris, you cannot. Please respect the rules of SC:

Rape, blood, guns, war & war veterans, 2nd amendment of the US, July 4th, Nov. 11th, bashing *your* president - oh wait, you don't have (a new and single) one, so just take our new guy :P - give it to him! >:(

Yeah. And enjoy ... ;)

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it's even better here, we have SEVEN of them idiots, one stepping back and another one that everyone WANTS to step back!

now that the secret is out, everyone on SC wants to immigrate switzerland.. :P

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it's even better here, we have SEVEN of them idiots, one stepping back and another one that everyone WANTS to step back!

now that the secret is out, everyone on SC wants to immigrate switzerland.. :P



Pffff - we have a new one - and no one is ever taking notice of him. He's invisible.

I know you have a lot of *heads* over there; I don't mind - just let me in. :)

Over and out. ;)

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It will happen eventually. It's pretty peaceful after an armageddon. :P



I don't get the sense that either the Jews or the Muslims want Armageddon in their area. It seems to be mainly Christians who don't actually have to live in the area who are warmongering for Armageddon in the Middle East. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.


Not saying they want it, but when you have religions that have been battling each other for thousands of years over their beliefs and want the other one gone with no hope of peace... Add in advances in weapon technology...

Voila.
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So it's up to their government to make laws to enforce that? Religious culture (beyond basic morality) is a horrible basis for a government. Unsure



once and for all, there are no such laws in Israel.
The reason here was the deception, not actually being an Arab.
don't mix up the facts. as much as I think taking this to court is stupid, the issue wasn't inter-racial relationships.
Israel is a free country and you can sleep with whoever you want. the issue here was the lies he told to get her to sleep with him.
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Not saying they want it, but when you have religions that have been battling each other for thousands of years over their beliefs



The history is not nearly so long. The modern state of Israel is only 62 years old--less than a human lifespan and offering some hope that new ideas for peace may surface when the older generation--on all sides--dies out. When the Jewish people last controlled Israel, Islam did not even exist.

It's easy to vaguely talk about "thousands of years of conflict" in the Middle East but the current configuration is fairly new by historical standards.
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some new facts on this issue which were not mentioned before...

- He wasn't convicted. It was a plea bargain. so the judge had nothing to do with him being found guilty
- the problem started with the sentence (his lawyers didnt expect jail time). high ranking officials also said no jail time was in order.
- there will be an appeal and it will most likely be reversed.


so, so much for the racist Israeli system... he pleaded guilty...

oh, and on top of it all, he is married too....
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once and for all, there are no such laws in Israel.
The reason here was the deception, not actually being an Arab.
don't mix up the facts. as much as I think taking this to court is stupid, the issue wasn't inter-racial relationships.
Israel is a free country and you can sleep with whoever you want. the issue here was the lies he told to get her to sleep with him.



Is this a statute, or is it based on case law?

I am interested in reading the statute or the precedents.

I suspect he would not have been convicted if he had lied about his income or profession but I guess I a cynical that way.
"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

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I don't think it's a f**'kd up ruling.
There is a significant difference between the religious laws and separatism in Israeli/Arab relations that the US doesn't have the foggiest clue about.
What if she became pregnant? Both of their religious cultures prohibit them from sleeping with each other let alone making a child.
FWIW, a rabbi hailing from Jerusalem says that it is indeed illegal to lie about your background for purposes of sex or a business transaction in Israel. But he's from Chabad Lubavitch, so some Jews won't accept him as having any intelligence.:S



Wow, DSE, I am shocked that you would say this was not a f**ked up ruling. I guess you were okay w/ U.S. antimiscegenation laws, since, you know, it was prohibited by the culture and many religious authorities said it was wrong. After all, what would happen if they had children?
"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

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I don't think it's a f**'kd up ruling.
There is a significant difference between the religious laws and separatism in Israeli/Arab relations that the US doesn't have the foggiest clue about.
What if she became pregnant? Both of their religious cultures prohibit them from sleeping with each other let alone making a child.
FWIW, a rabbi hailing from Jerusalem says that it is indeed illegal to lie about your background for purposes of sex or a business transaction in Israel. But he's from Chabad Lubavitch, so some Jews won't accept him as having any intelligence.:S



Wow, DSE, I am shocked that you would say this was not a f**ked up ruling. I guess you were okay w/ U.S. antimiscegenation laws, since, you know, it was prohibited by the culture and many religious authorities said it was wrong. After all, what would happen if they had children?


You ENTIRELY missed the point.
Culture and religion aren't necessarily the same thing.

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I don't think it's a f**'kd up ruling.
There is a significant difference between the religious laws and separatism in Israeli/Arab relations that the US doesn't have the foggiest clue about.
What if she became pregnant? Both of their religious cultures prohibit them from sleeping with each other let alone making a child.
FWIW, a rabbi hailing from Jerusalem says that it is indeed illegal to lie about your background for purposes of sex or a business transaction in Israel. But he's from Chabad Lubavitch, so some Jews won't accept him as having any intelligence.:S



Wow, DSE, I am shocked that you would say this was not a f**ked up ruling. I guess you were okay w/ U.S. antimiscegenation laws, since, you know, it was prohibited by the culture and many religious authorities said it was wrong. After all, what would happen if they had children?


You ENTIRELY missed the point.
Culture and religion aren't necessarily the same thing.


the point being it was a f***d up decision - and you agree with it!
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