Lucky... 0 #101 July 25, 2010 QuoteWhen did I say tax cut either. Having a debate with you is like herding cats. You didn't and you refuse to. It's grossly implied that tax cuts are teh answer, you won't assert that because it would be easy to slam that. We know wht you mean tho, tax cuts, my friends; just like your Republican hero. QuoteI'm talking about cutting needless spending as our debt is unsustainable and at some point we are going to have to rely on something other than being able to just pay off the interest and let china foot the bill. Yep, Clinton's plan worker well, chop military spending, increase taxes and open some social programs, or were teh Clinton years economically bad? QuoteDo i really need to quote historical context of why spending money you don't have is bad, or do you have a basic understanding of macroeconomics? I'm teh pro-Clinton guy here, you are not. Clinton raised taxes and cut spending from previous presidents; that's the model I advocate, you don't have teh courage to claim that tax cuts are needed too, even tho that's what you mean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #102 July 25, 2010 So instead of addressing my point you merely make, incorrect, personal inferences of me. Cool thread bro.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #103 July 25, 2010 QuoteSo instead of addressing my point you merely make, incorrect, personal inferences of me. Cool thread bro. Your point: Cut spending - do I need to go cut-n-paste where I stated that's a good idea? I did address it and will address any point you have, juts post it. My point: Are tax cuts good? You didn't touch it and won't, then strawman to make it appear that I didn't address yours. Post any questions you have - I'll answer, but answer mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #104 July 25, 2010 Quote Love how you disclose your career field or any other aspect; must be proud. Well, it's not as a process server or some other faux legal job. You're in fine form today, whining to Bill about attacks while calling us Circle K clerks. Grow a pair already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #105 July 25, 2010 QuoteQuote Love how you disclose your career field or any other aspect; must be proud. Well, it's not as a process server or some other faux legal job. You're in fine form today, whining to Bill about attacks while calling us Circle K clerks. Grow a pair already. Nice strawman, saying, "...you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself." Is the same as claiming someone must be a Cirkle K clerk. But at least you and yours don't have to dream up an excuse for tax cuts being damaging to the economy; a ridiculous claim made by the same. I've never claimed to be a legal professional, just an acft mech professional. Not sure how you drempt that up, perhaps too much time on the Ouija board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #106 July 25, 2010 QuoteSo instead of addressing my point you merely make, incorrect, personal inferences of me. Cool thread bro. So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other Are tax increases ever beneficial? If so, when have they been? Are tax cuts beneficial? If so, when have they been? This should warrant some kind of squirming or, if you're smart, just keep runnin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #107 July 25, 2010 Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. A little thin skinned there? ooh the big bad man from the internet insulted me - let me run to the nearest moderator and tattle. What a joke!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #108 July 26, 2010 it's a completely unrelated issue While irrelevant, since you're so curious I'll let you know how I feel about it. I support eliminating our tax system and creating a new progressive consumption tax in it's place.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #109 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. A little thin skinned there? ooh the big bad man from the internet insulted me - let me run to the nearest moderator and tattle. What a joke! Right, if I let the woman light me off, I get booted. The joke is that you want the double standard. Don't worry, substantive issues are for those here to debate; move along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #110 July 26, 2010 Quoteit's a completely unrelated issue While irrelevant, since you're so curious I'll let you know how I feel about it. I support eliminating our tax system and creating a new progressive consumption tax in it's place. Republicans, unemp issues, taxation is an element of that as either or both taxes pay for unemp / deficit spending does. Totally relevant. Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other Are tax increases ever beneficial? If so, when have they been? Are tax cuts beneficial? If so, when have they been? So to answer your guarded reply: So eliminate the income tax system I think you were trying to say and shift all taxes to consumption. Yea, many people have suggested this and on teh surface it sounds good, but remember, society is guided via our tax system, so that would dissuade buying/spending and promote all other things. This is the rub, the economy needs to run with all elements and no need to hire if consumption is down. We need a distributed tax process, even if it becomes very complicated. It would be noce to think we could simplify the process, but it really need to be universal, in evry aspect of our lives to avoid eliminating some areas and flooding others. To have great economic activity we need high taxes followed by generous writeoffs. This keeps the economic activity high, if we need to slow it to avoid inflation we can merely raise the int rate, which in turn appreciates our dollar value. That is a one-way street, we can't lower rates enough to always motivate economic activity, GWB found that to be true as he lowered taxes, economy stagnated, he and the fed had to keep cutting rates to try to motivate the economy, the unexpected result was that house values skyrocketed as a home's value relies on 2 main elements: - Principal - Interest They react inversely to each other. Once they gave the monster life, it had to run its course. Never has anything good happened when we've run the top marginal brkt has gone below 70%, let alone 50% 30%, etc. Yet why all the ideologues run for low taxes is just retarded. They can't provide evidence that it has ever been beneficial let alone constantly beneficial yet they clammer their lockstepped chant of, "Tax cuts, my friends" forever, despite a mountain of 90 years of evidence showing a constant trend of low taxes = fucked economy. Let's raise teh top margina brkt > 50% and keep the writeoffs so the rich can stay in the game rather than pull their cash and get a free ride, stagnating the economy in the name of, "fairness." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #111 July 26, 2010 I dont understand. All they said was cut something, somewhere, to pay for it !!! That is not saying... all you unemployed guys can eat dog food !!! is it ???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #112 July 26, 2010 Quote Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other That reads as a multiple choice question. I'd say his answer was other. Get off your horse.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #113 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,108 #114 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #115 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah.. odd how that did not warrent a banning... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #116 July 26, 2010 QuoteI dont understand. All they said was cut something, somewhere, to pay for it !!! That is not saying... all you unemployed guys can eat dog food !!! is it ???? Right, they meant to not cut any corporate welfare tho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #117 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other That reads as a multiple choice question. I'd say his answer was other. Get off your horse. It's not, it can be anything he wants, hence the, "Other." I know, real hard to understand. You can run like he did, it speaks volumes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #118 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah.. odd how that did not warrent a banning... I've gotta think Bill hasn't seen it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scruffy 0 #119 July 26, 2010 not running from anything, I just don't find this conversation that interesting. you asked a question I answered it, sorry if I didn't write "other" to preface it. I figured you were smart enough to follow. Anyways, if you want to talk about why not spending money on unemployed people for nearly 2 years is a bad thing feel free to ask a question and I'll probably have a response. If you want to talk about tax cuts start a thread it would be relevant to and i'm sure people who are willing to defend the practices of bush and regean would love to talk to you.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhaig 0 #120 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other That reads as a multiple choice question. I'd say his answer was other. Get off your horse. It's not, it can be anything he wants, hence the, "Other." I know, real hard to understand. You can run like he did, it speaks volumes. did you read my second sentence? "I'd say his answer was other" yes I noticed the option. I commented on it. you clearly didn't read my last sentence "get off your horse" as you're stuck to the "you don't agree with me, so you're stupid" attitude. I kept my earlier reply short so you might have the attention span to read & comprehend the whole thing. clearly that approach didn't work.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #121 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah, I've been given a time-out for far less. I was just amused at the irony of lucky whining about somebody having the balls to come right out and say what they mean instead of just dancing around it by formulating group insults that are obviously aimed at a particular person. Balls. Some gots 'em, some don't.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #122 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other That reads as a multiple choice question. I'd say his answer was other. Get off your horse. It's not, it can be anything he wants, hence the, "Other." I know, real hard to understand. You can run like he did, it speaks volumes. did you read my second sentence? "I'd say his answer was other" yes I noticed the option. I commented on it. you clearly didn't read my last sentence "get off your horse" as you're stuck to the "you don't agree with me, so you're stupid" attitude. I kept my earlier reply short so you might have the attention span to read & comprehend the whole thing. clearly that approach didn't work. So you guessed why he ran from the question and then dropped an insult as a smokescreen to your running exit; WE ALL SAW THAT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhaig 0 #123 July 26, 2010 Quote So you guessed why he ran from the question and then dropped an insult as a smokescreen to your running exit; WE ALL SAW THAT. it seems to me that if others don't think what you think, you think they're stupid. not what you say (you dance the PA rules very nicely) but how you say it. I notice you didn't directly counter that observation. and my "running exit" ??? ah yes, that explains this response. I'm gone now. see? these words aren't really here. this isn't the post you're looking for-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #124 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah, I've been given a time-out for far less. I was just amused at the irony of lucky whining about somebody having the balls to come right out and say what they mean instead of just dancing around it by formulating group insults that are obviously aimed at a particular person. Balls. Some gots 'em, some don't. Most have come out and told others to fuck themselves, I don't think it takes balls. And we all deliver light veiled insults, of course you, you're special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #125 July 26, 2010 QuoteQuote So you guessed why he ran from the question and then dropped an insult as a smokescreen to your running exit; WE ALL SAW THAT. Quoteit seems to me that if others don't think what you think, you think they're stupid. not what you say (you dance the PA rules very nicely) but how you say it. I notice you didn't directly counter that observation. I think we all veil little jabs, I can think of one you posted today. But coming out and calling someone a pathetic ..... is too direct for this forum's moderation, so it seems. Quoteand my "running exit" ??? ah yes, that explains this response. I'm gone now. see? these words aren't really here. this isn't the post you're looking for Right, another running exit; we're used to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 5 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Belgian_Draft 0 #113 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #114 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #115 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah.. odd how that did not warrent a banning... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #116 July 26, 2010 QuoteI dont understand. All they said was cut something, somewhere, to pay for it !!! That is not saying... all you unemployed guys can eat dog food !!! is it ???? Right, they meant to not cut any corporate welfare tho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #117 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other That reads as a multiple choice question. I'd say his answer was other. Get off your horse. It's not, it can be anything he wants, hence the, "Other." I know, real hard to understand. You can run like he did, it speaks volumes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #118 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah.. odd how that did not warrent a banning... I've gotta think Bill hasn't seen it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #119 July 26, 2010 not running from anything, I just don't find this conversation that interesting. you asked a question I answered it, sorry if I didn't write "other" to preface it. I figured you were smart enough to follow. Anyways, if you want to talk about why not spending money on unemployed people for nearly 2 years is a bad thing feel free to ask a question and I'll probably have a response. If you want to talk about tax cuts start a thread it would be relevant to and i'm sure people who are willing to defend the practices of bush and regean would love to talk to you.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #120 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other That reads as a multiple choice question. I'd say his answer was other. Get off your horse. It's not, it can be anything he wants, hence the, "Other." I know, real hard to understand. You can run like he did, it speaks volumes. did you read my second sentence? "I'd say his answer was other" yes I noticed the option. I commented on it. you clearly didn't read my last sentence "get off your horse" as you're stuck to the "you don't agree with me, so you're stupid" attitude. I kept my earlier reply short so you might have the attention span to read & comprehend the whole thing. clearly that approach didn't work.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #121 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah, I've been given a time-out for far less. I was just amused at the irony of lucky whining about somebody having the balls to come right out and say what they mean instead of just dancing around it by formulating group insults that are obviously aimed at a particular person. Balls. Some gots 'em, some don't.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #122 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Here's a list of questions you must have accidentally missed: So no answer to the tax cut position? At the present: - Are you for tax cuts - For tax increases - No change to the tax code - Other That reads as a multiple choice question. I'd say his answer was other. Get off your horse. It's not, it can be anything he wants, hence the, "Other." I know, real hard to understand. You can run like he did, it speaks volumes. did you read my second sentence? "I'd say his answer was other" yes I noticed the option. I commented on it. you clearly didn't read my last sentence "get off your horse" as you're stuck to the "you don't agree with me, so you're stupid" attitude. I kept my earlier reply short so you might have the attention span to read & comprehend the whole thing. clearly that approach didn't work. So you guessed why he ran from the question and then dropped an insult as a smokescreen to your running exit; WE ALL SAW THAT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #123 July 26, 2010 Quote So you guessed why he ran from the question and then dropped an insult as a smokescreen to your running exit; WE ALL SAW THAT. it seems to me that if others don't think what you think, you think they're stupid. not what you say (you dance the PA rules very nicely) but how you say it. I notice you didn't directly counter that observation. and my "running exit" ??? ah yes, that explains this response. I'm gone now. see? these words aren't really here. this isn't the post you're looking for-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #124 July 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote The only reason you are so adamant on welfare , is because you are too pathetic and useless to take care of yourself. Bill has been notified, have a good one. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa See posts #10 and #15 of this thread. It does seem to be her style. I know people who have been banned for less. Yeah, I've been given a time-out for far less. I was just amused at the irony of lucky whining about somebody having the balls to come right out and say what they mean instead of just dancing around it by formulating group insults that are obviously aimed at a particular person. Balls. Some gots 'em, some don't. Most have come out and told others to fuck themselves, I don't think it takes balls. And we all deliver light veiled insults, of course you, you're special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #125 July 26, 2010 QuoteQuote So you guessed why he ran from the question and then dropped an insult as a smokescreen to your running exit; WE ALL SAW THAT. Quoteit seems to me that if others don't think what you think, you think they're stupid. not what you say (you dance the PA rules very nicely) but how you say it. I notice you didn't directly counter that observation. I think we all veil little jabs, I can think of one you posted today. But coming out and calling someone a pathetic ..... is too direct for this forum's moderation, so it seems. Quoteand my "running exit" ??? ah yes, that explains this response. I'm gone now. see? these words aren't really here. this isn't the post you're looking for Right, another running exit; we're used to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites