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[SkyChimp 0]

Good bye Democracy and Representative Republic. Hello to a nation ruled by an individual wearing a black robe!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/04/federal-judge-overturns-californias-sex-marriage-ban/

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

[BikerBabe 0]

where's the "agree with the proper use of checks and balances such that the majority is not able to summarily deny the rights of a minority" option?

Thank god for those individuals in black robes, or we'd still have Jim Crow laws, too. You DO realize that the only reason we have integrated schools, water fountains, buses, parks, restaurants, workplaces, etc is because of those "guys in black robes", right?

*facepalm*

something tells me you probably should have voted for the third option yourself...

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[Andy9o8 2]

Look up the phrase "push poll". Then get back to us.

[champu 1]

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Good bye Democracy and Representative Republic. Hello to a nation ruled by an individual wearing a black robe!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/04/federal-judge-overturns-californias-sex-marriage-ban/

I think a paraphrasing in the article of the closing arguments says it best:

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He told Judge Walker that tradition or fears of harm to heterosexual unions were legally insufficient grounds to discriminate against gay couples.

If 52% of the population voted that walking was illegal and that you had to hop everywhere, I don't think you'd be defending it as a victory of democracy.

[Amazon 7]

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where's the "agree with the proper use of checks and balances such that the majority is not able to summarily deny the rights of a minority" option?

Thank god for those individuals in black robes, or we'd still have Jim Crow laws, too. You DO realize that the only reason we have integrated schools, water fountains, buses, parks, restaurants, workplaces, etc is because of those "guys in black robes", right?

*facepalm*

something tells me you probably should have voted for the third option yourself...[/reply

I am thinking that some people here are good with demonizing other people based on if the demonization is being touted by those in black robes are being worn in their pulpits.

[lawrocket 3]

We have a Constitution that sets a floor of rights that politicans and voters are not allowed to overrule without a Constitutional amendment.

This is by no means over. I'll have to look at the decision to see whether the judge pulled this out of his ass or whether he reasoned it well.

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[kallend 2,032]

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Good bye Democracy and Representative Republic. Hello to a nation ruled by an individual wearing a black robe!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/04/federal-judge-overturns-californias-sex-marriage-ban/

Most people get to read the Constitution before they reach the age at which they are allowed to skydive. You should try it sometime, you may be enlightened.

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[billvon 3,009]

>Agree with use of democracy and feel that the vote of "We The
>People" should stand.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. . . . .

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Yes, that document should stand (which, today, it did.)

[quade 4]

A few things should be noted;

1) Walker was appointed by Bush 41. I had actually expected the decision to go the other way based just on this fact alone.

2) It's not over 'til it's over. However this was ruled it was going to be immediately appealed by the other side. This case doesn't end until the US Supreme Court says it does.

3) Lincoln said, "A majority held in restraint by Constitutional checks and limitation... is the only true sovereign of a free people."

The phrase "activist judge" gets tossed around a lot, but the fact is it's the way the government was set up to begin with; THREE branches. Each as a check and balance on the other two.

BTW, this image is from the side of the Ronald Reagan Federal Court building about a mile from where I live. In the heart of ultra-conservative Orange County.

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[Master_Yoda 0]

Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has over turned it.

I'm glad I moved to Texas.

[Amazon 7]

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Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has over turned it.

I'm glad I moved to Texas.

Wow..good thing you managed to get out while you could.... now all those peoples marriages in California have lost all their sanctity.

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Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has over turned it.

What makes you think the US is a democracy? Since when has a vote ever been fair when it comes to minority rights?

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[billvon 3,009]

>Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has
>over turned it.

Yep. People voted against interracial marriage for years until the Supreme Court overturned it. I think we're all glad they did.

[Lucky... 0]

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Hello to a nation ruled by an individual wearing a black robe!!

I know, next thing you know the justices will strike down slavery and give women voting rights. You should check yourself before majing inane sttaements. But I see the justices were right on with Heller aned McDonald, you konow, those activists.

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We have a Constitution that sets a floor of rights that politicans and voters are not allowed to overrule without a Constitutional amendment.

This is by no means over. I'll have to look at the decision to see whether the judge pulled this out of his ass or whether he reasoned it well.

Yea like, "well regulated" meaning, "well oiled" and not, "well controlled" or, "well governed." Also, how is a militia like private gun owner rights? That's pulling majic from one's ass. I like it, but it is a massive stretch.

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The phrase "activist judge" gets tossed around a lot,...

That shows that the author of said cliche is totally clueless but upset about the decision.

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Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has over turned it.

I'm glad I moved to Texas.

Yea, they aint got them there dirty faggots there, huh?

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>Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has
>over turned it.

Yep. People voted against interracial marriage for years until the Supreme Court overturned it. I think we're all glad they did.

Better example than I came up with. Loving V Virginia, filed 1959, decided 1968 by those activists. I read that the last state to repeal antimiscegenation laws from their books was Georgia and they polled the citizens and discovered that 40% of them still wanted the laws on the books. Altho that was a minority, it was 32 years later and not much of a minority.

[ianmdrennan 2]

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Thought it was funny, and appropriate

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Saw this on facebook today.

Thought it was funny, and appropriate

Yea, LOL.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has over turned it.

Twice each, I believe. And the first time around, the mayor of SF did it on his own and a judge stopped it.

There are places in the world where minority rights are meaningless. Usually, however, the majority rights aren't always much better and you get whatever the government wants.

[Shotgun 1]

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Yep. People voted against interracial marriage for years until the Supreme Court overturned it. I think we're all glad they did.

Not too sure about "all." I'm guessing that there are still people out there who think that interracial marriage should be illegal.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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>Three times the voters of CA have voted NO. And 3 times a judge has
>over turned it.

Yep. People voted against interracial marriage for years until the Supreme Court overturned it. I think we're all glad they did.

I think you know better than that.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

The article was sometimes confusing when referring to the constitution when both California and US constitutional law and procedure were involved.
What do people think the chances are that the SCOTUS ruling (assuming there is one) will be nation wide in effect?

[metalslug 36]

It is all too easy to proclaim "we the people", just so long as you're one of "the people".

To put things in perspective a bit, in my country; Constitutional law is one of the few things that holds "new" South Africa together.
If the law was put to a vote each time here; I believe we would rapidly become a Zimbabwe. Mass seizures of private property and acquittals for some of the biggest criminals that we have.
In recent years our courts have overturned countless bizarre and unconstitutional government actions.
Just this week, our politically appointed Chief of Police was sentenced to 15 years on corruption charges, with some outcry from a majority demographic who appear to dislike the ruling.
Since caucasian interests are now a minority here, we are more grateful than ever for a legal system that can still function to protect them.

If, or when, constitutional law no longer functions here then I would be forced to emigrate to a place where the interests of "the people" reflect my own.
This is perhaps in keeping with arguments made by some US citizens about their own country; "If you don't like it here, then leave."