kallend 2,026 #51 August 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote In another thread somebody sarcastically asked what Obama has done during his term so far. Well, there is this; "Last U.S. combat convoy has left Iraq" All Obama has done is to continue with the plan put in place by President Bush, to turn the security of the country back over to the Iraqiis. So this isn't really an Obama accomplishment - it's just the beginning of the end as planned by Bush all along. But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? And Obama gets the blame for a lot of the huge bailouts that were implemented under Bush. How's that work?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #52 August 21, 2010 ".... Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country. In this battle, we have fought for the cause of liberty, and for the peace of the world. Our nation and our coalition are proud of this accomplishment — yet it is you, the members of the United States military, who achieved it. Your courage — your willingness to face danger for your country and for each other — made this day possible. Because of you, our nation is more secure. Because of you, the tyrant has fallen, and Iraq is free. .... This nation thanks all of the members of our coalition who joined in a noble cause. We thank the Armed Forces of the United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland, who shared in the hardships of war. We thank all of the citizens of Iraq who welcomed our troops and joined in the liberation of their own country. And tonight, I have a special word for Secretary (Donald) Rumsfeld, for General (Tommy) Franks, and for all the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States: America is grateful for a job well done. ...." Above is an excerpt (of CBS news) of speech of your 43rd president upon his lion-hearted and brave landing on the deck of USS Abraham Lincoln. How'd you call the bold printed parts? By just playing wordgames, the content will not be changed. He still is a well-known liar. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #53 August 21, 2010 Quote ".... Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country. In this battle, we have fought for the cause of liberty, and for the peace of the world. Our nation and our coalition are proud of this accomplishment — yet it is you, the members of the United States military, who achieved it. Your courage — your willingness to face danger for your country and for each other — made this day possible. Because of you, our nation is more secure. Because of you, the tyrant has fallen, and Iraq is free. .... This nation thanks all of the members of our coalition who joined in a noble cause. We thank the Armed Forces of the United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland, who shared in the hardships of war. We thank all of the citizens of Iraq who welcomed our troops and joined in the liberation of their own country. And tonight, I have a special word for Secretary (Donald) Rumsfeld, for General (Tommy) Franks, and for all the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States: America is grateful for a job well done. ...." Above is an excerpt (of CBS news) of speech of your 43rd president upon his lion-hearted and brave landing on the deck of USS Abraham Lincoln. How'd you call the bold printed parts? By just playing wordgames, the content will not be changed. He still is a well-known liar. You still have not provided any proof that "you heard with my own 2 ears" that he said mission accomplished. You are the one playing word games. Nice try though. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1981 to 1988 is 7 years-Kallend (oops, it's actually 8 years Kallend) The decade of the 80's was from 1980 to 1989. 10 years. If you remove 1980 and 1989 you have 1981 to 1988. 8 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #54 August 22, 2010 News: "Combat brigades remain in Iraq" Army Times: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/08/dn-brigades-stay-under-different-name-081910/ So who's lying? Obama, or the U.S. Army? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #55 August 23, 2010 >So who's lying? Obama, or the U.S. Army? You are. From the article: ======= Soldiers from the 2nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team of the 25th Infantry Division are deployed in Iraq as members of an Advise and Assist Brigade, the Army’s designation for brigades selected to conduct security force assistance. ====== In other words, all combat brigades have left. Some of the people in those brigades have joined other brigades to serve as security. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #56 August 23, 2010 Quote>So who's lying? Obama, or the U.S. Army? You are. From the article: ======= Soldiers from the 2nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team of the 25th Infantry Division are deployed in Iraq as members of an Advise and Assist Brigade, the Army’s designation for brigades selected to conduct security force assistance. ====== In other words, all combat brigades have left. Some of the people in those brigades have joined other brigades to serve as security. From the article: ========== So while the “last full U.S. combat brigade” have left Iraq, just under 50,000 soldiers from specially trained heavy, infantry and Stryker brigades will stay, as well as two combat aviation brigades. ========== So in Obama-world and billvon-world, combat aviation brigades aren't combat brigades. And 50,000 combat soldiers still in Iraq are no longer combat soldiers. That sure is a lot of new paper-pushers and bottle washers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #57 August 23, 2010 >So in Obama-world and billvon-world, combat aviation brigades aren't >combat brigades. In reality, combat brigades are combat brigades, and Advise and Assist Brigades are Advise and Assist Brigades, and logistics brigades are logistics brigades. If a mall hires off-duty police officers and has them patrol the mall, the mall does not become a police station. (Well, at least in the real world, that is; if you need to launch another political attack, I guess you could call it whatever you want.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #58 August 23, 2010 Ok, let's use the mall. So there was a major ongoing problem at the mall, and the police were sent in to do high visibility patrols and crime suppression. Then the mall hired off duty officers to handle patrol along with mall security guards. Would you say that police weren't patroling the mall anymore?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #59 August 23, 2010 >So there was a major ongoing problem at the mall, and the police were sent >in to do high visibility patrols and crime suppression. Then the mall hired >off duty officers to handle patrol along with mall security guards. Would you >say that police weren't patroling the mall anymore? If there was a squad of police there, then yes, I'd say that there was a squad of police there. (stating the obvious of course) If that squad of police leaves, and the only people remaining were the regular security patrol (some of whom were off duty police officers) and someone said "the police squad is still there!" - they would be lying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #60 August 24, 2010 Probably was all planned to be that way in the original "'planned by Bush" withdrawal plan that he came up with that you're giving him all the credit for. The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #61 August 24, 2010 Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Binkus 0 #62 August 24, 2010 Technically just becouse they are ina combat brgade does not automatically make them a combat force. In all of your large units you also have service support and combat support soldiers. Though I would be willing to bet that a large portion of the advise and assist forces do come from combat roles, however their mission is not combat operations anymore. It can be spun either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #63 August 24, 2010 QuoteTechnically just becouse they are ina combat brgade does not automatically make them a combat force. In all of your large units you also have service support and combat support soldiers. Though I would be willing to bet that a large portion of the advise and assist forces do come from combat roles, however their mission is not combat operations anymore. It can be spun either way. So . . if they enter into armed combat, what would you call them then? Unless they aren't allowed to combat anyone. (wouldn't surprise me under this pussy admin) Last time I checked, there were "Combatants" and "Non Combatants" . . . maybe all they are allowed are pen and paper and a mop and a broom.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #64 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Technically just becouse they are ina combat brgade does not automatically make them a combat force. In all of your large units you also have service support and combat support soldiers. Though I would be willing to bet that a large portion of the advise and assist forces do come from combat roles, however their mission is not combat operations anymore. It can be spun either way. So . . if they enter into armed combat, what would you call them then? Unless they aren't allowed to combat anyone. (wouldn't surprise me under this pussy admin) Last time I checked, there were "Combatants" and "Non Combatants" . . . maybe all they are allowed are pen and paper and a mop and a broom. Damn! ..... someone didn't get the memo!http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4513995 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #65 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #66 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil. Oh no,,, he did not miss it. Mikee is a highly decorated Defender of THE BUSH.. with many many Campaign Ribbons with Pot Metal Clusters.... King George II and his Blackwater Knights stole all the silver and gold and used the bronze for weapons manufacturing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #67 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil. Oh no,,, he did not miss it. Mikee is a highly decorated Defender of THE BUSH.. with many many Campaign Ribbons with Pot Metal Clusters.... King George II and his Blackwater Knights stole all the silver and gold and used the bronze for weapons manufacturing. You are actually Major Tom, arent you.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #68 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil. Oh no,,, he did not miss it. Mikee is a highly decorated Defender of THE BUSH.. with many many Campaign Ribbons with Pot Metal Clusters.... King George II and his Blackwater Knights stole all the silver and gold and used the bronze for weapons manufacturing. You are actually Major Tom, arent you. Nope ... no more than you are actually Rush Lamebaughs long lost love child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #69 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil. Oh no,,, he did not miss it. Mikee is a highly decorated Defender of THE BUSH.. with many many Campaign Ribbons with Pot Metal Clusters.... King George II and his Blackwater Knights stole all the silver and gold and used the bronze for weapons manufacturing. You are actually Major Tom, arent you. Nope ... no more than you are actually Rush Lamebaughs long lost love child. Oh, come on, tell the truth . . . Commencing countdown, engines on . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #70 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil. Oh no,,, he did not miss it. Mikee is a highly decorated Defender of THE BUSH.. with many many Campaign Ribbons with Pot Metal Clusters.... King George II and his Blackwater Knights stole all the silver and gold and used the bronze for weapons manufacturing. You are actually Major Tom, arent you. Nope ... no more than you are actually Rush Lamebaughs long lost love child. Oh, come on, tell the truth . . . Commencing countdown, engines on . . . I guess he was in another, try his prove he was not really gay while in St Louis phases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #71 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil. Oh no,,, he did not miss it. Mikee is a highly decorated Defender of THE BUSH.. with many many Campaign Ribbons with Pot Metal Clusters.... King George II and his Blackwater Knights stole all the silver and gold and used the bronze for weapons manufacturing. You are actually Major Tom, arent you. Nope ... no more than you are actually Rush Lamebaughs long lost love child. Oh, come on, tell the truth . . . Commencing countdown, engines on . . . With regards to nothing in this thread and taking nothing from David Bowie, better space song for SC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl1t4b1RD4The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #72 August 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote But Obama gets the blame for "raising" taxes when the "planned by Bush" tax cut expiration comes due. How's that work? Like this: Quote “I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama You must have missed the "planned by Bush" tax cut thingy but that's OK, keep up the vigil. Oh no,,, he did not miss it. Mikee is a highly decorated Defender of THE BUSH.. with many many Campaign Ribbons with Pot Metal Clusters.... King George II and his Blackwater Knights stole all the silver and gold and used the bronze for weapons manufacturing. You are actually Major Tom, arent you. Nope ... no more than you are actually Rush Lamebaughs long lost love child. Oh, come on, tell the truth . . . Commencing countdown, engines on . . . With regards to nothing in this thread and taking nothing from David Bowie, better space song for SC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svl1t4b1RD4 I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #73 August 24, 2010 This is more the speed for so many of our conservaturds here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #74 August 25, 2010 Quote Like this: Quote“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama Wow! we have a new Prez? How did I miss that-because my tax bill is increasing and our HH income is less than a quarter mil-and I'm losing a chunk of deduction that I got for the money I spend on my wife's students every year. Does that mean that the current administration thinks I should let the kids run out of supplies, or shoes, or coats, or food that I've been buying her kids for the past several years?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #75 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuote Like this: Quote“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increases. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." "If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not a single dime.” - Barack Obama Wow! we have a new Prez? How did I miss that-because my tax bill is increasing and our HH income is less than a quarter mil-and I'm losing a chunk of deduction that I got for the money I spend on my wife's students every year. Does that mean that the current administration thinks I should let the kids run out of supplies, or shoes, or coats, or food that I've been buying her kids for the past several years? No - it means that they want to be the ones that provide it for them. After all people are stupid and can't take care of them selves.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
