Andy9o8 2 #1 August 20, 2010 Cast your free and impartial ballot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 August 20, 2010 There seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #3 August 20, 2010 I would NEVER vote for a president that is anything but either Agnostic or Atheist!Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #4 August 20, 2010 I dont think that yes or no answers can cover it.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #5 August 20, 2010 QuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #6 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?!Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #7 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?! I am indeed serious. If you think the same as John, perhaps you can tell me why?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? TEXAS cognitive abilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #9 August 20, 2010 I think that there are some people who would be more concerned about the degree of religiosity of the president than which particular religion he practiced. Sunday church-going Episcopalian: OK Daily church-going snake-handling dude: maybe not Saturday synagogue-going Conservative Jew: OK Hasid who won't touch women: maybe not etc. etc. etc. It's about whether you value the civil order and society in the US as separate from the religious one. The Constitution pretty clearly (to me, at least) tries to separate them, and it's important to me that the President think so too. Whether religion (and which one) guides his personal thoughts is up to him. Oh -- and Amazon -- there are plenty of smart people in Texas. They can't really be categorized any more easily than anyone else who doesn't choose to be categorized. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #10 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?! I am indeed serious. If you think the same as John, perhaps you can tell me why? I can tell you why. Although its not true, there are MANY stupid Americans who believe that President Obama is Muslim!Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #11 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?! I am indeed serious. If you think the same as John, perhaps you can tell me why? I can tell you why. Although its not true, there are MANY stupid Americans who believe that President Obama is Muslim! Riiight. Those are people who do want a christian president and who do care if the president is a muslim (hence why it was made up in the first place). That's the opposite of what JR said.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #12 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?! I am indeed serious. If you think the same as John, perhaps you can tell me why? I can tell you why. Although its not true, there are MANY stupid Americans who believe that President Obama is Muslim! Riiight. Those are people who do want a christian president and who do care if the president is a muslim (hence why it was made up in the first place). That's the opposite of what JR said. I don't care if he is a muslim, I do care if he lies about his faith and if he is a radical in his faith. We do know he has either lied about his faith or is radical about his faith and that is disturbing to me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #13 August 20, 2010 QuoteWe do know he has either lied about his faith or is radical about his faith and that is disturbing to meHow do you know that? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 August 20, 2010 QuoteI think that there are some people who would be more concerned about the degree of religiosity of the president than which particular religion he practiced. Sunday church-going Episcopalian: OK Daily church-going snake-handling dude: maybe not Saturday synagogue-going Conservative Jew: OK Hasid who won't touch women: maybe not etc. etc. etc. It's about whether you value the civil order and society in the US as separate from the religious one. The Constitution pretty clearly (to me, at least) tries to separate them, and it's important to me that the President think so too. Whether religion (and which one) guides his personal thoughts is up to him. Oh -- and Amazon -- there are plenty of smart people in Texas. They can't really be categorized any more easily than anyone else who doesn't choose to be categorized. Wendy P. But in all my trips to Texas over my lifetime... I keep meeting the not so smart..with those VERY same attitudes in DROVES.... then agin... it aint just Texas.. just that general di rec tion. I can think of very few Texicans here that break my stereotype, you of course...Lisa Marie and Brains and family. Then again there are a few good ones who have escaped like Shotgun and John Mitchell. I wish Pops was still with us.... man do I miss his all too spankable persona here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #15 August 20, 2010 QuoteI don't care if he is a muslim, I do care if he lies about his faith and if he is a radical in his faith. We do know he has either lied about his faith or is radical about his faith and that is disturbing to me No, we don't. That's the made up bit I was referring to. (Ok, he did go on about his christianity rather too much during the election, but I wouldn't have called it radical.)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #16 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?! I am indeed serious. If you think the same as John, perhaps you can tell me why? I can tell you why. Although its not true, there are MANY stupid Americans who believe that President Obama is Muslim! Roughly a third of conservative Republicans (34%) believe Obama is a Muslim. Source: pewresearch.org/pubs/1701/poll-obama-muslim-christian-church-out-of-politics-political-leaders-religious... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #17 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteWe do know he has either lied about his faith or is radical about his faith and that is disturbing to meHow do you know that? Wendy P. well he said he is a christian and did belong to a church that had rev wright - that would be radical. I heard 5 different sound bites this morning of Obama talking about his muslim religion and how he was raised in the muslim faith - that would be the lie. one is true and it doesn't really make a difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #18 August 20, 2010 I don't care what religion the president is, as long as he uses information and logic in his decision-making, and not his religion."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverkeith 1 #19 August 20, 2010 QuoteI don't care what religion the president is, as long as he uses information and logic in his decision-making, and not his religion. Thats the problem. If he is truly religious, it will affect his every decision.Blue skies, Keith Medlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #20 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteI don't care what religion the president is, as long as he uses information and logic in his decision-making, and not his religion. Thats the problem. If he is truly religious, it will affect his every decision. True, but I suspect there are a lot of US politicians who attend church not because they believe in it, but because they know that appearing non-religious in the US would be political suicide."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 August 20, 2010 Quote TEXAS cognitive abilities. 'Zon, you should know that you and I are pretty much on the same page politically, but that looked like a PA to me."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #22 August 20, 2010 Quotewell he said he is a christian and did belong to a church that had rev wright - that would be radical. I heard 5 different sound bites this morning of Obama talking about his muslim religion and how he was raised in the muslim faith - that would be the lie. one is true and it doesn't really make a difference. Ok, let me get this straight - you think that Obama is claiming that he is a muslim?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 August 20, 2010 Quote Quote TEXAS cognitive abilities. 'Zon, you should know that you and I are pretty much on the same page politically, but that looked like a PA to me. It goes directly to the point that a WHOLE bunch of Texicans who pre=ofess to be conservatives actually believe he is a muslim.. and not born in this country. Obviously.. there is some sort of cognitive issue if the people who believe that can't rub enough brain cells together to figure it out.What OTHER motive do they actually have to believe that of our president??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #24 August 20, 2010 QuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Are you one of the 20% of Americans that believes Obama is a Muslim? A yes or no answer will suffice.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #25 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuotewell he said he is a christian and did belong to a church that had rev wright - that would be radical. I heard 5 different sound bites this morning of Obama talking about his muslim religion and how he was raised in the muslim faith - that would be the lie. one is true and it doesn't really make a difference. Ok, let me get this straight - you think that Obama is claiming that he is a muslim? no Obama has said he is a christian and was raised a muslim. what I think he is doesn't matter. that he is either a radical or a liar is what matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites